Prophetic Ministry : Purpose & Use
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those guys are all about wind.
the wind of your fortune; the wind of my power; the wind of my glory....
Rather short sighted comment there Willie, considering that Christ has set them in the Church (along with Apostles, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers) during the whole of the age of Grace! 1Cor 12v28, Eph 4v7-16, Rev 11v3-6
Do you reckon you know better than the Trinity?
That's surprising. I thought you believed in speaking in tongues. But you don't believe in prophecy?I've had different experiences with prophecies. I've seen a lot in the way of personal prophecy that points out details in an individuals life and brings some really detailed encouragement that strengthens the person.
Paul wrote that a man is not supposed to cover his head. Besides, if a man wore a pastor on top of his head, he'd probably break his neck, especially is the size of some of the pastors they have in the Bible belt. That would be rough. Women couldn't handle it either. I suggest we refrain from wearing pastors and church celebrities on top of our heads. It's dangerous.
That's hilarious!
The Bible speaks of elders having oversight in the local assembly, but it doesn't use "covering" in the same sense. Your post highlights the errancy of that practice. A "board" can function in the same way, but a single person probably shouldn't.
This is about the wind coming outta zone's face hole. Is that why they call 'em windbags?
Yes... where they embellish what God has spoken to them. They may have received a message from the Lord, but may add their own thoughts or try to interpret the word instead of just speaking it. The testing should be the same as in the OT (does the word come to fulfillment, and is it consistent with Scripture) but that there should be grace to allow a person to grow in the gifting. Even in the Old Testament, there were "schools of prophets"... I suspect something similar took place.
To clarify though, anyone, even someone through whom God has previously spoken a true prophetic message, can claim to speak for God where He has not spoken. This is where it gets fuzzy, because the speaker, and others, may claim that it is a prophecy when it is not. This muddies the water, and leads to "horoscope prophecy" or worse. This is why I don't like the concept of "office" for a prophet... I haven't seen the gift in operation in this manner. A ministry, yes; an office, no.
Why does it not bother people when they admit their prophets can ((and frequently do)) falsely prophesy?
Maybe we need a new word for whatever it is they are doing if they're not prophesying in the Biblical sense. You will notice that nowhere in the new testament is "prophesy" redefined, as it must be now if we are to accept these people who need to somehow learn to muddle through their own sayings by trial and error as prophets.
I rather think that if God should use me to add to His very own words, there's not going to be some % wrong in what He puts on my lips. He is able.
It would be much easier to swallow if they admit they are coming up with this stuff on their own. But when it's God told me this, God told me that, God says so and so, and then some of it is wrong, how should I believe they really know the voice of God?
Maybe we need a new word for whatever it is they are doing if they're not prophesying in the Biblical sense. You will notice that nowhere in the new testament is "prophesy" redefined, as it must be now if we are to accept these people who need to somehow learn to muddle through their own sayings by trial and error as prophets.
I rather think that if God should use me to add to His very own words, there's not going to be some % wrong in what He puts on my lips. He is able.
It would be much easier to swallow if they admit they are coming up with this stuff on their own. But when it's God told me this, God told me that, God says so and so, and then some of it is wrong, how should I believe they really know the voice of God?