The easy way to spot a false grace message

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Its possible, but I just think he doesn't wish to speak contrary to God's word and therefore has cornered himself into not admitting he sins because he would then make himself illegitimate
Or it could be God's words are true, and His grace is actually working and being manifest in my life by me being actually set free from sin, as Jesus said also said He could do. But why should you believe me if you do not believe Jesus Christ? :)
 

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From #220 - so all OSAS followers support ongoing sin??

Would all of you who believe in OSAS and also support ongoing sin please respond and verify this truth! ? LOL!!!!

I don't think you will get anyone who acknowledges this - or maybe I am wrong - I haven't run across any OSAS believers who say this . . .
I don't know any OSAS believer that supports ongoing sin including myself. Maybe he took a poll or something to support this crazy claim.
 
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Or it could be God's words are true, and His grace is actually working and being manifest in my life by me being actually set free from sin, as Jesus said also said He could do. But why should you believe me if you do not believe Jesus Christ? :)
Is even one word more needed to show total delusion? This is a very sick puppy.
 
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Except that I doubt you will EVER hear him admit that he still sins, and has yet to see a time when he has finally stopped sinning. I firmly believe he has deluded himself into thinking he never commits a sin.... at all.
The point is it does not matter what you or others think of me, again.... "What I am and what you are DO NOT MAKE THE WORDS OF GOD ANY LESS TRUE."
 
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Is even one word more needed to show total delusion? This is a very sick puppy.
So you do not believe the words of Jesus Christ when he said he can in fact make you free from sin. That is what you guys do not believe. And that is why it does not matter what I say is true, if you already do not believe the words of God as true. :)
 
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The point is it does not matter what you or others think of me, again.... "What I am and what you are DO NOT MAKE THE WORDS OF GOD ANY LESS TRUE."
It makes no difference to the words of God, but it makes all the difference to your words. Which are always and at all times directed at "others", when those words of Gods are directed at you.
 
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I don't know any OSAS believer that supports ongoing sin including myself. Maybe he took a poll or something to support this crazy claim.
Any doctrine that says no amount of sin can cause you to lose salvation supports ongoing sin and still be saved. Not hard to figure out. :)
 

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It makes no difference to the words of God, but it makes all the difference to your words. Which are always and at all times directed at "others", when those words of Gods are directed at you.

YUUUUUUUPPPPP!

"'He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.'”


 
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Any doctrine that says no amount of sin can cause you to lose salvation supports ongoing sin and still be saved. Not hard to figure out. :)
Except you have missed entirely the One who is saving us. The Christian life is not a "hypothetical".
 
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It makes no difference to the words of God, but it makes all the difference to your words. Which are always and at all times directed at "others", when those words of Gods are directed at you.
I'm agreeing with the words of Jesus Christ and am also speaking from the position of being set free from sin just as He also promised. I CONFIRM THE WORDS OF GOD ARE TRUE! :) But you still will not believe both me and Him.
 

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Any doctrine that says no amount of sin can cause you to lose salvation supports ongoing sin and still be saved. Not hard to figure out. :)
A person that is born again will repent of their past sinful lifestyle and not have an on-going sin problem. Being saved is not a license to sin. There will always be repercussions from sin, you will reap what you sow but God is merciful and compassionate and quick to forgive.
 
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Except you have missed entirely the One who is saving us.
No I have not, I'm telling you He is also saving us from sin and from committing ongoing sins. He is not giving us the thumbs up to keep on sinning.
 

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I'm agreeing with the words of Jesus Christ and am also speaking from the position of being set free from sin just as He also promised. I CONFIRM THE WORDS OF GOD ARE TRUE! :) But you still will not believe both me and Him.
Yes, but you are set free because of Christ's righteousness, not because of your own. Being set free does not mean that believers are sinless. We are [credited] with righteousness for faith. God sees us as righteous because of Christ, not because we are without sin. We are and have been in the process of being perfected, but at the same time God already sees us as perfect because Christ is perfect.

We are "set free" from the consequences of sin, being acquitted of all charges past, present and future, because Christ paid the penalty for our sins. Plainly put, we are saved sinners.
 
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It makes no difference to the words of God, but it makes all the difference to your words. Which are always and at all times directed at "others", when those words of Gods are directed at you.
Of course the words of God are directed all, and I am not speaking contrary to the words of God but am confirming they are true. So believe the words of God. :)
 
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No I have not, I'm telling you He is also saving us from sin and from committing ongoing sins. He is not giving us the thumbs up to keep on sinning.
But, you don't really believe that. You believe it is you who saves yourself from sinning and ongoing sins. Which is why you think those who are actually trusting in Christ are giving the thumbs up to keep on sinning.
 
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ROM. 3:21-22-23-24-25-26.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:
for there is no difference:

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Whom God hath set forth to be a Propitiation through Faith in His blood, to declare His righteousness
for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

To declare, I say, at this time His righteousness: that He might be just, and the Justifier
of him which believeth in Jesus.

our Saviour, our daily Advocate, sitting on the right hand of God, always ready to intercede for us
when we come to Him in loving, grateful, repentance, our Best Friend now and forever...AMEN...
 
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I'm agreeing with the words of Jesus Christ and am also speaking from the position of being set free from sin just as He also promised. I CONFIRM THE WORDS OF GOD ARE TRUE! :) But you still will not believe both me and Him.
Are you a Christian? Are you without sin?
 
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No I have not, I'm telling you He is also saving us from sin and from committing ongoing sins. He is not giving us the thumbs up to keep on sinning.
I agree...we live by His grace through faith and we are saved by His life.

So do you still sin from time to time?

Do you still give in to the flesh in some sort from time to time?

Why can't you be honest with us here? This is a great time to tell us the truth.

Is your answer - yes? ..or no?... you never sin anymore?

Thank you for being truthful to us. If you are truthful - then we can start to discuss your "application" of some scriptures "in context".
 
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Any doctrine that says no amount of sin can cause you to lose salvation supports ongoing sin and still be saved. Not hard to figure out. :)
Do you know that this speaks to your own heart condition? You speak of sin as something you want to do but are deprived of in order to gain salvation.
 
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We are "set free" from the consequences of sin, being acquitted of all charges past, present and future, because Christ paid the penalty for our sins. Plainly put, we are saved sinners.
Nope, we are also set free from sin and sinning (or should be if you are truly born again of God).

1 John 3:5-10

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother."
 
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