A reminder for the bdf
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Sticky above bdf about creating threads about hyper grace.
I believe you have misread my statement. I never accused you of anything, but was using the words of why a more detail statement of faith has not been posted, because people would feel fearful of being banned for not agreeing.
The method they use allows for freer discussion of various beliefs.
Also the point that many don't read what has already been posted.
I believe you have misread my statement. I never accused you of anything, but was using the words of why a more detail statement of faith has not been posted, because people would feel fearful of being banned for not agreeing.
The method they use allows for freer discussion of various beliefs.
Also the point that many don't read what has already been posted.
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Yeah, how people behave on these forums, is NOT the mod's problem. WE have to govern our own behavior. I feel sorry for Oncefallen, who yesterday, had to close at least two threads, and go through dozens of pages to see who started what. It's extremely hard, frustrating and time-consuming. Maybe WE all need to give the mods more consideration than we give ourselves. After all, they ARE volunteers, unpaid ones at that, and they constantly have to deal with tons of complaints, reports and whining on a daily basis.. So instead of berating THEM, why don't WE take it upon ourselves to do something to help make this entire site better? 
And yet - people still bring up the term "hyper-grace" in topics and posts despite the mods asking people not too...because of the bad behavior that ensues. I believe they will crack down on this.
It was good for awhile before some started using the term again and there wasn't the bad behavior which made it bearable in the threads.
It was good for awhile before some started using the term again and there wasn't the bad behavior which made it bearable in the threads.
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I may be mistaken but I always thought sticky threads, though May have been created by anyone or only made stickies (where they are always displayed at the top of the forum) by an admin or moderator.
They have information that many should read, but you do have a point, maybe they should put the sticky notes in the rules and regulation forum site also so that people know they are more official?
They have information that many should read, but you do have a point, maybe they should put the sticky notes in the rules and regulation forum site also so that people know they are more official?
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http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/143507-hyper-grace-preachers-doctrine-cc.html
I just didn't post the link, but she does bring a good point that could help people.
Make it known that sticky notes aren't just like any thread but approved by the admin of the site...wonder if they can put it in the rules section?
I just didn't post the link, but she does bring a good point that could help people.
Make it known that sticky notes aren't just like any thread but approved by the admin of the site...wonder if they can put it in the rules section?
Yeah, how people behave on these forums, is NOT the mod's problem. WE have to govern our own behavior. I feel sorry for Oncefallen, who yesterday, had to close at least two threads, and go through dozens of pages to see who started what. It's extremely hard, frustrating and time-consuming. Maybe WE all need to give the mods more consideration than we give ourselves. After all, they ARE volunteers, unpaid ones at that, and they constantly have to deal with tons of complaints, reports and whining on a daily basis.. So instead of berating THEM, why don't WE take it upon ourselves to do something to help make this entire site better?
I understand your "intention", that we should be more loving etc.
I completely agree.
But for clarity, I want to focus on the issue of responsibility.
Each person only has responsibility for themself.
I have no responsibility for the "forum", and neither do you... I only have responsibility for what I, alone, post on the forum.
No member here has any responsibility for what anyone else posts, or for the general condition of the forum.
Wait... maybe I'm missing someone.
Maybe there IS someone who has control over all the posts, and control over the entire forum, and thus IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE FORUM!
Who would that be?
Who would be the only person who CAN TAKE ACTION over the posts on the forum, and thus CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE FORUM?
Who would that person be?
YOU are only responsible for what YOU post.
The ADMINS are responsible for what EVERYONE POSTS.. as they have the ability to assert control over it.
You have responsibility where you have control.
The responsibility of the overall forum, IS the responsibility of the admins.
Period.
I understand Oncefallen is busy; I understand the owner is busy; I understand they don't have enough staff.
However, it still remains the responsibility of the owner (and his staff) to maintain and control the forum.
The only people with ULTIMATE CONTROL over content, and thus ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY for content, are the Admins.
I do not have control over the forum, and thus I do not have responsibility for the forum.
The admins DO have control over the forum, and thus they have responsibility for the forum.
We should each be responsible for ourselves.
But the ONLY people who are responsible for the overall forum... are the admins.
I am not about to take THEIR responsibility upon myself, and assume guilt, because sometimes the forum gets nasty and hostile.
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I can remember a time the chat rooms had too many mods, 'cause I was one of them.
I find it difficult to believe that they can't find one. I suggest they start looking. Qualified people are here.
It wouldn't be an extreme view to think they're not looking for one, because such an honest person would have to do their job & clean house, not because everyone's bad, but because it's been left undone too long & the BDF's falling apart due to lack of governance.
Try running a preschool like this.....
I find it difficult to believe that they can't find one. I suggest they start looking. Qualified people are here.
It wouldn't be an extreme view to think they're not looking for one, because such an honest person would have to do their job & clean house, not because everyone's bad, but because it's been left undone too long & the BDF's falling apart due to lack of governance.
Try running a preschool like this.....
You can put them in timeout (temporary bann) but it's pretty extreme to kick them out unless they are a danger to others or themselves.
I don't see BDF falling apart, I see people focusing on what is wrong instead of taking responsibility and doing what is right.