Dualism, the doctrine of a disassociated identity

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Persuaded

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Nope, the words of God will judge those who do not believe in them...

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
You can continue to deny that you do not judge and falsely accuse people, but the proof is evident in many of your post.
Only God and the individual knows if a person is saved or lost.
 
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As a believer we must moment by moment turn away from sin because God hates sin. Any time we feel a conviction from the Spirit of God that we have done something wrong(sin) we should immediately turn away from it and ask God for forgiveness. No one in this mortal body can walk through this life without committing sin at times simply because we have a flesh nature that wants to sin. However the idea that we just accept that we will sin, is an alien concept in the bible. The idea is that we do not commit sin, if we do then we ask for forgiveness and turn away from that sin and the blood of Jesus cleans us from all sin.
 
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As a believer we must moment by moment turn away from sin because God hates sin. Any time we feel a conviction from the Spirit of God that we have done something wrong(sin) we should immediately turn away from it and ask God for forgiveness. No one in this mortal body can walk through this life without committing sin at times simply because we have a flesh nature that wants to sin. However the idea that we just accept that we will sin, is an alien concept in the bible. The idea is that we do not commit sin, if we do then we ask for forgiveness and turn away from that sin and the blood of Jesus cleans us from all sin.
I honestly never feel convicted of sin in my life, does that mean my conscience has been seared or are my sins just not that bad in God's eyes? This is a serious question, I'm not being facetious and I'm being totally honost... sin is irrelevant in my life with Christ, I don't even think about sin as having anything to do with my walk with God because I can't see that it has any affect on my relationship with him.
 
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Nope, the words of God will judge those who do not believe in them...

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
What does it mean by "whosoever is born of God", what does that mean. Literal flesh, flesh nature or our born agian man?

Also what does "his seed remaineth in him" mean? Who's seed? Why does the seed remaining him cause him to not sin?
 
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What does it mean by "whosoever is born of God", what does that mean. Literal flesh, flesh nature or our born agian man?

Also what does "his seed remaineth in him" mean? Who's seed? Why does the seed remaining him cause him to not sin?
It means born again from heaven above by the Holy Spirit of God. And the seed is the Living Word of God in us=Christ in us.
 
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I just think...if you are a teacher, you need to find out the fear that is behind someones balking in an area and why a stronghold is not being pulled down but being clung to. We know we have been perfected in love when He casts out those fears in the areas we are struggling in and with, because perfect love casts out fear. But if you want to see irrationality in action, watch a person who has some area still of fear and mistrust as they literally deny a part of the good news and aren't even aware they're doing it. This doesn't mean they aren't a child of God. You can't just immediately say they are snakes. They need our help. Why else has God blessed us in growth and understanding if it's not so that we use what He has gifted to us to build them up?
I speak differently depending on whom I am speaking, whether it be a new convert or babe in Christ, or a person who claims to be mature and able to handle strong meat. In these forums we have those who claim to be mature, but are yet in darkness fumbling around in the dark. These are those who have constantly resisted the Holy Spirit and the Truth of God's Word. They do not seek understanding because they believe they already have it, and thus they are lifted up with pride and rebellion against the Truth as is written in the words of God.

So if I seem a bit blunt and harsh toward some it is because they are in constant rebellion against the Truth, and stubbornness is as the sin of idolatry and rebellion against the words of God is as the sin of witchcraft.
 
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I don't known, it does not appear to me that your conscience is seared(however I don't really know). I am not saying there is anything wrong with your walk, because I really don't know, most of your posts seem sensible to me. I was saved at an early age and was immediately aware that I was a sinner and needed to be saved. After I was saved I became aware of sin when I did anything wrong and it has continued to this day. I don't go around thinking about sin, however if I do something wrong(which I do from time to time) I ask God for forgiveness.
 

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As a believer we must moment by moment turn away from sin because God hates sin. Any time we feel a conviction from the Spirit of God that we have done something wrong(sin) we should immediately turn away from it and ask God for forgiveness. No one in this mortal body can walk through this life without committing sin at times simply because we have a flesh nature that wants to sin. However the idea that we just accept that we will sin, is an alien concept in the bible. The idea is that we do not commit sin, if we do then we ask for forgiveness and turn away from that sin and the blood of Jesus cleans us from all sin.
This is the part that I balk at too. The idea that we just have to expect to stumble. I don't start my day with the expectation that I will probably sin. I start it with the expectation and hope and joy that if I abide in Him, I won't sin!
 

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To become humbled--- we just have to read the Sermon on the Mount-----people who want to do away with the law---- fine---- but now we have the !aw of Love---- Christ fulfilled the law---- we can only walk in Love by the Spirit---- if we c!aim God's Grace to live our lives---- this means we will be directed to holiness...
 
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I speak differently depending on whom I am speaking, whether it be a new convert or babe in Christ, or a person who claims to be mature and able to handle strong meat. In these forums we have those who claim to be mature, but are yet in darkness fumbling around in the dark. These are those who have constantly resisted the Holy Spirit and the Truth of God's Word. They do not seek understanding because they believe they already have it, and thus they are lifted up with pride and rebellion against the Truth as is written in the words of God.

So if I seem a bit blunt and harsh toward some it is because they are in constant rebellion against the Truth, and stubbornness is as the sin of idolatry and rebellion against the words of God is as the sin of witchcraft.
Once again judging others.
 
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It means born again from heaven above by the Holy Spirit of God. And the seed is the Living Word of God in us=Christ in us.
I agree with that.... the INCORRUPTIBLE word of God IS the DNA of the Christ in us.

Verse 4, 5 and 6 are the reason the man in verse 9 does not commit sin. The man in verse 9 doesn't NOT COMMIT sin because he has stopped coveting, lusting and lying etc. He doesn't commit sin because there is no law against such things in Christ BUT all those things are not expedient for him, but if he does them, he hasn't committed sin. Do you agree with this?

1 John 3:4-10 KJV
[4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
SIN is the transgression of the law, there is no law for the believer. A Christian DOTH NOT commit sin because there is no such thing as sin for a Christian.

[5] And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin
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He took away our sin by ABOLISHING the law... there is no sin when there is no law.

[6] Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
He sinneth NOT because he CANT sin, it's impossible.
 
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ISIT, I see that you are preaching the good news.
I think what MOST disturbs some people is that you don't cover everything at once (which is impossible).
I think that they think that since God still communes with them, even though they were very imperfect in the beginning and still see many impurities in themselves (which is the work of the Holy Spirit to show us the truth) - but He still communes with them and has not abandoned them, so they do not see what you say as being right. But you have posted elsewhere for me when I brought up that we GROW in faith and love as our minds are more and more renewed to think as God thinks about things. And they think that you are saying that we are not safe as He teaches and purges us. And since the Spirit confirms to their spirit all the time that they are a child of God, they think you are teaching wrong. They don't see where you give any room for the necessary growth. I honestly think that is the biggest push against what is quite clearly the teaching of very good news.

So given that you are a teacher, you have to address their concerns so they will understand and not be fearful, but bold to approach and learn from Him.
I disagree people object not just to his message but his abrasive manner and tone. If he wants to be a true teacher. He needs to pray and learn humbleness.

I actually agree with many of his doctrines but am horrorified at his bitterness and biting comments to others who don't understand or flat out don't agree with him.

And I find you an enabler for pulling up this thread and encouraging him to "teach" when he hasn't even learn to speak in gentleness.
 
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Once again judging others.
There is a fine line between living in the liberty of Christ and living laciviously. I think it's hard, if not impossible for someone else to judge another person on this and I think ISIT doesn't undertand this aspect of our walks with the Lord. That's just my opinion. :)
 
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He doesn't commit sin because there is no law against such things in Christ BUT all those things are not expedient for him, but if he does them, he hasn't committed sin. Do you agree with this?
No I don't agree, all unrighteousness is sin. Again your ideas sound like that Antinomianism, which is a lawless doctrine with no morals. Sins are listed in the NT as works or deeds of the flesh and as unrighteousness, which those who commit such and remain therein, shall not inherit the kingdom of God as is also written.
 
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No I don't agree, all unrighteousness is sin. Again your ideas sound like that Antinomianism, which is a lawless doctrine with no morals. Sins are listed in the NT as works or deeds of the flesh and as unrighteousness, which those who commit such and remain therein, shall not inherit the kingdom of God as is also written.
Ok then tell me how I am misinterpretting Paul here. Are ALL THINGS lawful or no?

1 Corinthians 10:23 KJV
All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
 

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I speak differently depending on whom I am speaking, whether it be a new convert or babe in Christ, or a person who claims to be mature and able to handle strong meat. In these forums we have those who claim to be mature, but are yet in darkness fumbling around in the dark. These are those who have constantly resisted the Holy Spirit and the Truth of God's Word. They do not seek understanding because they believe they already have it, and thus they are lifted up with pride and rebellion against the Truth as is written in the words of God.

So if I seem a bit blunt and harsh toward some it is because they are in constant rebellion against the Truth, and stubbornness is as the sin of idolatry and rebellion against the words of God is as the sin of witchcraft.

Yes, well a baby might not think they look like a baby and they might be convinced they aren't a baby and sometimes even pick up a book and pretend they know how to read, but you don't go on their own pretense and then beat them up because they aren't really reading. You bear with them and teach them one word at a time until they CAN start reading. And when they're in their terrible two's, you bear with them because others bore with you when YOU were there. And you don't beat them for soiling themselves, you patiently go over and over training them not to until they learn and grow. You are preaching the gospel and it is plain as day, but it is in how you are doing it that you seem to not be connecting with people in here at all. I think something is hindering the Spirits power and you will not be effective until you learn what it is.
 
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Yes, well a baby might not think they look like a baby and they might be convinced they aren't a baby and sometimes even pick up a book and pretend they know how to read, but you don't go on their own pretense and then beat them up because they aren't really reading. You bear with them and teach them one word at a time until they CAN start reading. And when they're in their terrible two's, you bear with them because others bore with you when YOU were there. And you don't beat them for soiling themselves, you patiently go over and over training them not to until they learn and grow. You are preaching the gospel and it is plain as day, but it is in how you are doing it that you seem to not be connecting with people in here at all. I think something is hindering the Spirits power and you will not be effective until you learn what it is.
That's because ISIT is babe himself... he talks about subjects and trys to teach others on subjects that he himself doesn't understand.... Sorry ISIT but that's the truth and I've seen it multiple times in your posts.
 
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Ariel82

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Hindering the spirit?

Pride and thinking you are more grown than you are and that Dad told you to punish your brothers and sisters for not agreeing with you.

Sorry only one Man gets to use the Rod, but on this site a few have a hammer...and a timeout corner.
 
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HisHolly

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I disagree.. many men of God have been opposed and killed, nothing about their delivery was the problem.. Holy Spirit will teach and correct, it is up to the recipient or targeted recipient to want to do something with it...
Yes, well a baby might not think they look like a baby and they might be convinced they aren't a baby and sometimes even pick up a book and pretend they know how to read, but you don't go on their own pretense and then beat them up because they aren't really reading. You bear with them and teach them one word at a time until they CAN start reading. And when they're in their terrible two's, you bear with them because others bore with you when YOU were there. And you don't beat them for soiling themselves, you patiently go over and over training them not to until they learn and grow. You are preaching the gospel and it is plain as day, but it is in how you are doing it that you seem to not be connecting with people in here at all. I think something is hindering the Spirits power and you will not be effective until you learn what it is.
 
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HisHolly

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There was a sower.... What happened with the seed wasn't blamed on him