Prodigal son - eternally saved or the lost who found God
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During the time the prodigal son left his father- this represents an unsafe spiritual state of being. If you leave God and go back to the world, during which time you die, you will not go to heaven- your fate is now sealed for all eternity. If you come back to the Father repenting, you are in a safe spiritual state once again.
Some say this is not so- that you cannot be turn from a sheep into a goat, then back into a sheep. There are lost sheep! The Father of the prodigal said his SON (sheep) was DEAD (in an unsafe state) but is NOW alive (in a safe state). God is the God of the living- not the dead. Are Moses and Elijah dead? No! They may have passed on, but they are alive with God. Spiritual death is separation from God. This death of the prodigal son was not physical (obviously). When Jesus said "Let the dead bury the dead" He meant let the spiritually dead bury the physical dead. People can walk around spiritually dead. "I tell you the truth, unless you eat of the body of the Son of Man, and drink His blood (Lords supper) you have no life in you."
Not every Christian (those who do words and deeds in Christ's name) will be saved. Jesus told some of them to depart from Him saying He never knew them. Christians (the Elect of God / God's sheep) will not all be saved! But only from among them- the VERY Elect of God will be saved. These are those who not only wear His name, but OBEY Him. "If it is HARD for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?" "Each of you should work out his own salvation with fear and trembling" (effort). "I beat my body into submission so that even though I have taught others, I myself will not be DISQUALIFIED for the prize (grace/heaven).
Some say this is not so- that you cannot be turn from a sheep into a goat, then back into a sheep. There are lost sheep! The Father of the prodigal said his SON (sheep) was DEAD (in an unsafe state) but is NOW alive (in a safe state). God is the God of the living- not the dead. Are Moses and Elijah dead? No! They may have passed on, but they are alive with God. Spiritual death is separation from God. This death of the prodigal son was not physical (obviously). When Jesus said "Let the dead bury the dead" He meant let the spiritually dead bury the physical dead. People can walk around spiritually dead. "I tell you the truth, unless you eat of the body of the Son of Man, and drink His blood (Lords supper) you have no life in you."
Not every Christian (those who do words and deeds in Christ's name) will be saved. Jesus told some of them to depart from Him saying He never knew them. Christians (the Elect of God / God's sheep) will not all be saved! But only from among them- the VERY Elect of God will be saved. These are those who not only wear His name, but OBEY Him. "If it is HARD for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?" "Each of you should work out his own salvation with fear and trembling" (effort). "I beat my body into submission so that even though I have taught others, I myself will not be DISQUALIFIED for the prize (grace/heaven).
Brother Ed, your post brings to mind where Jesus asks that if we have 100 sheep and one gets lost, do we not leave the 99 and search for the one, and when found, do we not rejoice over it more so than the 99 that were never lost? If we search for our one lost sheep, is it not fair to say that God does the same? God will not lose even one of His own.
I am sorry for your heartfelt feelings. But it demonstrates your confusion.
If what I am sharing is the truth about Christ, and how the Lord speaks to us
your feelings about lying and slander could also be miss-placed.
I ask that you ask God to Help you, to open your eyes, to heal your wounds
to make you whole. When you are healed and clean, then you will be able to
see correctly.
Dear Lord, I commit my brother to you, to work in Him your work of love, truth
and resassurance. I know whatever people have done to miss-understand or
miss-construe my words or intentions, I ask that you might forgives us all, and
humbly ask you might affirm your word in our hearts, to bring glory to your Name
Amen.
Great is the Lord and great are His purposes, too deep and wonderful for us to
understand or convey. He is the Lord, the Lord of all, creator of the universe,
who sent His son to die for us for the forgiveness of our sins. Amen
If what I am sharing is the truth about Christ, and how the Lord speaks to us
your feelings about lying and slander could also be miss-placed.
I ask that you ask God to Help you, to open your eyes, to heal your wounds
to make you whole. When you are healed and clean, then you will be able to
see correctly.
Dear Lord, I commit my brother to you, to work in Him your work of love, truth
and resassurance. I know whatever people have done to miss-understand or
miss-construe my words or intentions, I ask that you might forgives us all, and
humbly ask you might affirm your word in our hearts, to bring glory to your Name
Amen.
Great is the Lord and great are His purposes, too deep and wonderful for us to
understand or convey. He is the Lord, the Lord of all, creator of the universe,
who sent His son to die for us for the forgiveness of our sins. Amen
Look at the land mass and discern again. Compared to the land mass on the other side of the world which is 2/3rds of the land mass, then strangely enough the rest of the third is located where? On the other side of the world?
One can speculate that the fire will be a solar flare that will hit the earth on one side that burns up that third, but it is only a speculation. Maybe the supervolcano at Yellowstone will erupt with more forming volcanoes and super volcanos in the entire western hemisphere just by Christ's appearing alone?
Psalm 114:1When Israel went out of Egypt, the house of Jacob from a people of strange language;
Is verse 1 symbolic of the rapture elect from the wayward believers that speak in tongues with no interpretation as a paer language?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Judah was his sanctuary, and Israel his dominion.[SUP]3 [/SUP]The sea saw it, and fled: Jordan was driven back.[SUP]4 [/SUP]The mountains skipped like rams, and the little hills like lambs.[SUP]5 [/SUP]What ailed thee, O thou sea, that thou fleddest? thou Jordan, that thou wast driven back?[SUP]6[/SUP]Ye mountains, that ye skipped like rams; and ye little hills, like lambs?[SUP]7 [/SUP]Tremble, thou earth, at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the God of Jacob;[SUP]8 [/SUP]Which turned the rock into a standing water, the flint into a fountain of waters.
With Yellowstone and who knows what else in having enough cause to erupt when Christ appears before the earth?
One can speculate that the fire will be a solar flare that will hit the earth on one side that burns up that third, but it is only a speculation. Maybe the supervolcano at Yellowstone will erupt with more forming volcanoes and super volcanos in the entire western hemisphere just by Christ's appearing alone?
Psalm 114:1When Israel went out of Egypt, the house of Jacob from a people of strange language;
Is verse 1 symbolic of the rapture elect from the wayward believers that speak in tongues with no interpretation as a paer language?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Judah was his sanctuary, and Israel his dominion.[SUP]3 [/SUP]The sea saw it, and fled: Jordan was driven back.[SUP]4 [/SUP]The mountains skipped like rams, and the little hills like lambs.[SUP]5 [/SUP]What ailed thee, O thou sea, that thou fleddest? thou Jordan, that thou wast driven back?[SUP]6[/SUP]Ye mountains, that ye skipped like rams; and ye little hills, like lambs?[SUP]7 [/SUP]Tremble, thou earth, at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the God of Jacob;[SUP]8 [/SUP]Which turned the rock into a standing water, the flint into a fountain of waters.
With Yellowstone and who knows what else in having enough cause to erupt when Christ appears before the earth?
If you go by the land mass..... and not by a global map made by man...... you will see that one third of the earth as opposed to the rest
I should apologize for using that term, but all of the land mass I have referred to is within the western hemisphere. I doubt the western portion of Africa oe any part of the land mass that is the 2.3rds of the land mass will be hit with that fire that destroys the third if we were to go literally by the man made western hemisphere groupings.
Idk what that is but if one was to believe all he had to do is believe in God and then sit on a couch for the rest of his life watching bad videos and be saved. I would think that's crazy.
We have faith and in faith works is produced. Faith without works is dead. Meaning a true faith should be showing good fruit or else we will know by the no fruit or bad fruit where that person's faith is at.
We have faith and in faith works is produced. Faith without works is dead. Meaning a true faith should be showing good fruit or else we will know by the no fruit or bad fruit where that person's faith is at.
Dear Lord, I forgive this brother, in his rage and blindness lashes out to hurt.
Thankyou for taking me a sinner, and healing me, the worst of sinners of all the chaos
and tumult in my life. Thankyou for teaching me love, how to reach and touch others
to love my children and wife, to know your loving and caring touch on all aspects of
my life. I praise you that I owe my life to you, and I trust I might bring glory to your
name through the work you have done in me.
And I pray dear Lord, for the sick and wounded here, who feel so condemned they
walk each day as if you had not died and risen, that joy of being forgiven had not
dawned in their spirits and that they still feel captive to so much of their past.
Help them see your love and forgiveness, to reach out in faith and receive your
healing, and today know the words you speak are true and eternal, Amen.
Thankyou for taking me a sinner, and healing me, the worst of sinners of all the chaos
and tumult in my life. Thankyou for teaching me love, how to reach and touch others
to love my children and wife, to know your loving and caring touch on all aspects of
my life. I praise you that I owe my life to you, and I trust I might bring glory to your
name through the work you have done in me.
And I pray dear Lord, for the sick and wounded here, who feel so condemned they
walk each day as if you had not died and risen, that joy of being forgiven had not
dawned in their spirits and that they still feel captive to so much of their past.
Help them see your love and forgiveness, to reach out in faith and receive your
healing, and today know the words you speak are true and eternal, Amen.
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Faith is merely believing. They are one and the same. If you void faith; are you not ceasing to believe?
And James 2nd chapters that link works with faith is not saving faith that James was talking about in that chapter.
James was addressing a church that was favoring the rich and mistreating the poor. They tell the poor when they leave that they have faith in God providing for them by saying "Be warmed and be filled" as if God will miraculously warm them and fill them supernaturally just so the church can get out of meeting the immediate needs of the poor by giving them the means for garments and food before the poor go away. This is a church that was verbalizing their faith in God's Providence to the poor but unwilling to lead by example by giving from the bounty collected at church to meet the needs of the poor today in trusting Od to provide for what He wants the church to do tomorrow from the bounty collected.
It was never about works with faith for salvation, but rather if you claim to have faith in God's Providence to the poor, then you have to lead by example to the poor, otherwise in the eyes of the poor, the church's faith in God's Providence is dead and that is why it will not "profit" the poor nor "save" the poor when facing starvation and the exposure to the elements.
And James 2nd chapters that link works with faith is not saving faith that James was talking about in that chapter.
James was addressing a church that was favoring the rich and mistreating the poor. They tell the poor when they leave that they have faith in God providing for them by saying "Be warmed and be filled" as if God will miraculously warm them and fill them supernaturally just so the church can get out of meeting the immediate needs of the poor by giving them the means for garments and food before the poor go away. This is a church that was verbalizing their faith in God's Providence to the poor but unwilling to lead by example by giving from the bounty collected at church to meet the needs of the poor today in trusting Od to provide for what He wants the church to do tomorrow from the bounty collected.
It was never about works with faith for salvation, but rather if you claim to have faith in God's Providence to the poor, then you have to lead by example to the poor, otherwise in the eyes of the poor, the church's faith in God's Providence is dead and that is why it will not "profit" the poor nor "save" the poor when facing starvation and the exposure to the elements.
James never mentioned the fire as a consequence of this faith without works being dead.
And James 2nd chapters that link works with faith is not saving faith that James was talking about in that chapter.
James was addressing a church that was favoring the rich and mistreating the poor. They tell the poor when they leave that they have faith in God providing for them by saying "Be warmed and be filled" as if God will miraculously warm them and fill them supernaturally just so the church can get out of meeting the immediate needs of the poor by giving them the means for garments and food before the poor go away. This is a church that was verbalizing their faith in God's Providence to the poor but unwilling to lead by example by giving from the bounty collected at church to meet the needs of the poor today in trusting Od to provide for what He wants the church to do tomorrow from the bounty collected.
It was never about works with faith for salvation, but rather if you claim to have faith in God's Providence to the poor, then you have to lead by example to the poor, otherwise in the eyes of the poor, the church's faith in God's Providence is dead and that is why it will not "profit" the poor nor "save" the poor when facing starvation and the exposure to the elements.
And James 2nd chapters that link works with faith is not saving faith that James was talking about in that chapter.
James was addressing a church that was favoring the rich and mistreating the poor. They tell the poor when they leave that they have faith in God providing for them by saying "Be warmed and be filled" as if God will miraculously warm them and fill them supernaturally just so the church can get out of meeting the immediate needs of the poor by giving them the means for garments and food before the poor go away. This is a church that was verbalizing their faith in God's Providence to the poor but unwilling to lead by example by giving from the bounty collected at church to meet the needs of the poor today in trusting Od to provide for what He wants the church to do tomorrow from the bounty collected.
It was never about works with faith for salvation, but rather if you claim to have faith in God's Providence to the poor, then you have to lead by example to the poor, otherwise in the eyes of the poor, the church's faith in God's Providence is dead and that is why it will not "profit" the poor nor "save" the poor when facing starvation and the exposure to the elements.