Obama's Kenyan BC

[Sirk]

Lol oh I'm not trying to poke holes in your logic. It seems quite logical to me that if criminals are being given free reign to run around subverting everything as you claim they are that President Trump ain't doing a good job so far.

70+ million babies sucked out of the womb and had their brains caved in just in the last 50 or 60 years and that ain't even a snowflake on the tip of iceberg. Tell me again how swiftly the wheels of justice turn.

 

[Naboth]

Traitorous criminals have been walking around commiting subversive activities since the beginning of time.
This happens in ALL nations.

The only place it can even be CURTAILED is in a complete dictatorship.

Look around.
In the U.S. we all kinds of subversive groups with are freely allowed to plot and plan till we can catch them actually DOING something illegal.
Take your pick: we have communist groups, anarchist groups, fascist groups, white racist groups, black racist groups, latino racist groups.... just take your pick.

So, now that we've established this is a verifiable reality...
it's only a matter of investigating which particular people or groups actually DO this sort of thing.

To say this has never been perpetrated by the government, or members of a government agency, would be untenable.
There are records of the CIA getting hauled in front of Congress, many times, and found to be involved in all kinds of subversive and criminal activity.
It's in the congressional record.

We KNOW these things have happened.
So postulating that it's STILL happening is completely reasonable.

For goodness sake, go look at the latest dump of wikilleaks... which the CIA has essentially confirmed.

We live in a fallen world.
Crap happens.

Sure, if you think these groups are for whatever reason subversive and have been subverting for a long time then it seems the government hasn't been doing their job and still isn't. Guess if it is as you say it is then we need an absolute dictatorship. Though it makes me wonder if that too might be considered subversive?

 

[Naboth]

70+ million babies sucked out of the womb and had their brains caved in just in the last 50 or 60 years and that ain't even a snowflake on the tip of iceberg. Tell me again how swiftly the wheels of justice turn.

Well I guess it depends if you consider abortion as unjust or if you consider it justifiable.

 

[kaylagrl]

Mail me some copies of that socialist paper -- I'm tired of using Charmin.

But if its socialist paper don't you have to pass it around? eww.

 

[Naboth]

But if its socialist paper don't you have to pass it around? eww.

Lol sometimes sharing isn't caring lol.

 

[Sirk]

Well I guess it depends if you consider abortion as unjust or if you consider it justifiable.

Sounds like you are saying God considers your point of view in regards to His determination of justice. You should just stop now. Your ship hit a rocky shore and sunk. Swim to shore and send up a smoke signal.

 

[maxwel]

Sure, if you think these groups are for whatever reason subversive and have been subverting for a long time then it seems the government hasn't been doing their job and still isn't. Guess if it is as you say it is then we need an absolute dictatorship. Though it makes me wonder if that too might be considered subversive?

If it is as I say?

I'm just stating facts... facts you can find in the newspapers, and right in the congressional record.



We live in a society where people are free to assemble and free to speak.

That's why subversive groups exist.



This isn't complicated or mysterious.

Subversive groups exist in all free societies... that is the nature of freedom.

They do not exist in totalitarian regimes, but they do exist in all free societies.

This is the nature of freedom.




None of this is debatable.

Questioning reality is a bit ridiculous.

 

[kaylagrl]

Lol sometimes sharing isn't caring lol.

Just sayin....

 

[Magenta]

Sure, if you think these groups are for whatever reason subversive and have been subverting for a long time then it seems the government hasn't been doing their job and still isn't. Guess if it is as you say it is then we need an absolute dictatorship. Though it makes me wonder if that too might be considered subversive?

It is an interesting problem, isn't it? Expecting corrupt fallen people to police other corrupt fallen people and wrangle some sense of justice and righteousness out of it. Though it is true not everyone is corrupt to the same degree, it is apparent that the leftists were definitely breaking the law with impunity, screaming and crying about needing protection while they rioted and rampaged and burned the flag and committed other acts of treason and violence against fellow citizens, simply because they did not get what they wanted, while Obama looked on and did nothing but stoke the flames of racism and hatred. What we need is Jesus.

 

[kaylagrl]

It is an interesting problem, isn't it? Expecting corrupt fallen people to police other corrupt fallen people and wrangle some sense of justice and righteousness out of it. Though it is true not everyone is corrupt to the same degree, it is apparent that the leftists were definitely breaking the law with impunity, screaming and crying about needing protection while they rioted and rampaged and burned the flag and committed other acts of treason and violence against fellow citizens, simply because they did not get what they wanted, while Obama looked on and did nothing but stoke the flames of racism and hatred. What we need is Jesus.

Have to spread the rep but my intent was to rep this post.Excellent.

 

[Naboth]

Sounds like you are saying God considers your point of view in regards to His determination of justice. You should just stop now. Your ship hit a rocky shore and sunk.

I could show you some pretty stark verses in the Books of the Law and the Prophets of God about this subject. It is pleasant to consider the ways of justice, but justice is done in blood. Don't forget mercy either, for without mercy there is also no justice.

 

[Naboth]

If it is as I say?

I'm just stating facts... facts you can find in the newspapers, and right in the congressional record.



We live in a society where people are free to assemble and free to speak.

That's why subversive groups exist.



This isn't complicated or mysterious.

Subversive groups exist in all free societies... that is the nature of freedom.

They do not exist in totalitarian regimes, but they do exist in all free societies.

This is the nature of freedom.




None of this is debatable.

Questioning reality is a bit ridiculous.

Well if they are free to assemble and free to speak then why do you call them subversive for doing exactly that?

 

[Naboth]

It is an interesting problem, isn't it? Expecting corrupt fallen people to police other corrupt fallen people and wrangle some sense of justice and righteousness out of it. Though it is true not everyone is corrupt to the same degree, it is apparent that the leftists were definitely breaking the law with impunity, screaming and crying about needing protection while they rioted and rampaged and burned the flag and committed other acts of treason and violence against fellow citizens, simply because they did not get what they wanted, while Obama looked on and did nothing but stoke the flames of racism and hatred. What we need is Jesus.

I don't see it as a problem, maybe it is someone else's problem, but it's not my problem. The leftists are just keeping to their character just like the rightists are keeping to theirs. I think it is quite evident they stoke each other's flames.

 

[Magenta]

"Work of art on the canvas of thought."

Thank you for the anonymous rep comment

 

[Sirk]

Well if they are free to assemble and free to speak then why do you call them subversive for doing exactly that?

when they punch people in the face, flip cars over and burn the local cvs to the ground they lose their voices and cross the line into criminality. Careful, your true colors are showing.

 

[Naboth]

when they punch people in the face, flip cars over and burn the local cvs to the ground they lose their voices and cross the line into criminality. Careful, your true colors are showing.

Sure I agree, sounds criminal to me. Why ain't they arresting them then? Seems to me logically then someone ain't doing their job.

 

[Sirk]

Sure I agree, sounds criminal to me. Why ain't they arresting them then? Seems to me logically then someone ain't doing their job.

Ya. President 44 created chaos just like the playbook he operates out of demands he does.

 

[Naboth]

Ya. President 44 created chaos just like the playbook he operates out of demands he does.

Lol well then ironically Obama did his job if his playbook demands he is to create chaos. If then President Trump is the law and order candidate, then it seems he isn't doing his job. Maybe he will in the future, or maybe he won't.

 

[Magenta]

I don't see it as a problem, maybe it is someone else's problem, but it's not my problem. The leftists are just keeping to their character just like the rightists are keeping to theirs. I think it is quite evident they stoke each other's flames.

I used the word problem thinking that is what you were presenting, but it could just as easily be called any number of things What word would you suggest to classify the polarization of your nation, and the actions of those in power that are deliberately designed to make things worse instead of better? That this could be succinctly and correctly named might help in the discussions.

 

[Naboth]

I used the word problem thinking that is what you were presenting, but it could just as easily be called any number of things What word would you suggest to classify the polarization of your nation, and the actions of those in power that are deliberately designed to make things worse instead of better? That this could be succinctly and correctly named might help in the discussions.

Normality.