THE FOLLIES AND FALSE TEACHINGS OF JUDAIZERS LIKE HEBREW ROOT MOVEMENT/MESSIANIC JEWS
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You would be in error here.
Jesus keep the Lords Passover with apostles the night he was betrayed,
the start of the 14th, just like in the old testement times.
Jesus was slain the daylite portion of the 14th, buried before dark.
go look it up, or do you want help?
The start of the 15th [U.L.B.] the night to be most remembered
is when they left egypt by night
Jesus keep the Lords Passover with apostles the night he was betrayed,
the start of the 14th, just like in the old testement times.
Jesus was slain the daylite portion of the 14th, buried before dark.
go look it up, or do you want help?
The start of the 15th [U.L.B.] the night to be most remembered
is when they left egypt by night
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Re: THE FOLLIES AND FALSE TEACHINGS OF JUDAIZERS LIKE HEBREW ROOT MOVEMENT/MESSIANIC
I will note that while prove-all says that the Jews were observing the Feast of Tabernacles on the wrong date, Armstrongites observe the Feast of Tabernacles on the same date, so his claim that they were observing it on the wrong date basically indicates that his own affiliation does as well.
The claim isn't correct anyways. Herbert Armstrong was bold in making such claims, as it is PLAIN that Jesus was sacrificed at the same time that the lambs in the Temple area were being sacrificed. Otherwise, the time table of God didn't reflect the events as they occurred.
John used the phrase "Feast of the Jews" because it was apparent that these days were no longer applicable, and had been fulfilled in Christ. Armstrongites claim that there is a future fulfillment of some of the days, particularly the fall festivals, but I do not hold this position. For example, I know Jesus was our Atonement, and that both lambs in the Day of Atonement symbolized Him. Satan is not, nor will ever be, our sin-bearer. Jesus bore the sins of the redeemed on the Cross. Jesus also "tabernacled" among us during the Incarnation, and that fulfilled the Feast of Tabernacles. Also, regarding the "last great day", this was fulfilled at Pentecost with the receipt of the Holy Spirit as John 7:37-39 indicates.
As I have said, though, I could spend eternity arguing with an entrenched, indoctrinated Armstrongite like prove-all and never make headway. He thinks he has "the truth" and that non-observers are spiritually blinded. And, Armstrongites have devised clever, but false, explanations to reinforce their position. This behavior is common amongst the adherents of any aberrant worldview. Apologists call these explanations "rescue devices". They are like life preservers that allow the individual to maintain their faulty belief system, rather than addressing the obvious inconsistencies.
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You may wonder why an individual who believes that non-observers are blinded bothers to come to a Christian chat site. He has said that he considers himself to be a "watchman" in the past. In other words, he's here to warn us that non-observers are wrong, and to ensure that our blood is not in his hands. Herbert Armstrong allegedly viewed himself in a similar manner, although I think his involvement was more self-seeking. He enjoyed a very high standard of living at the expense of poorer church members. I remember many poorer Armstrongites scraping to survive, while allocating more than 23 percent of their gross income to devotional purposes (they taught a three-tithe requirement, with offerings being mandatory in addition to the tithes), while Herbert Armstrong flew around the world in a corporate jet and lived in a mansion with a full staff of servants. This brings to mind the phrase "devouring widows' houses".
By the way, this isn't isolated to Armstrong; Jim Staley, a Hebrew Roots teacher who is respected amongst many Judaizers, bilked senior citizens out of millions in retirement funds before being caught and prosecuted. Those who make bold proclamations about being "Torah observers" often are immoral men themselves in reality.
I will note that while prove-all says that the Jews were observing the Feast of Tabernacles on the wrong date, Armstrongites observe the Feast of Tabernacles on the same date, so his claim that they were observing it on the wrong date basically indicates that his own affiliation does as well.
The claim isn't correct anyways. Herbert Armstrong was bold in making such claims, as it is PLAIN that Jesus was sacrificed at the same time that the lambs in the Temple area were being sacrificed. Otherwise, the time table of God didn't reflect the events as they occurred.
John used the phrase "Feast of the Jews" because it was apparent that these days were no longer applicable, and had been fulfilled in Christ. Armstrongites claim that there is a future fulfillment of some of the days, particularly the fall festivals, but I do not hold this position. For example, I know Jesus was our Atonement, and that both lambs in the Day of Atonement symbolized Him. Satan is not, nor will ever be, our sin-bearer. Jesus bore the sins of the redeemed on the Cross. Jesus also "tabernacled" among us during the Incarnation, and that fulfilled the Feast of Tabernacles. Also, regarding the "last great day", this was fulfilled at Pentecost with the receipt of the Holy Spirit as John 7:37-39 indicates.
As I have said, though, I could spend eternity arguing with an entrenched, indoctrinated Armstrongite like prove-all and never make headway. He thinks he has "the truth" and that non-observers are spiritually blinded. And, Armstrongites have devised clever, but false, explanations to reinforce their position. This behavior is common amongst the adherents of any aberrant worldview. Apologists call these explanations "rescue devices". They are like life preservers that allow the individual to maintain their faulty belief system, rather than addressing the obvious inconsistencies.
Enjoy the show.
You may wonder why an individual who believes that non-observers are blinded bothers to come to a Christian chat site. He has said that he considers himself to be a "watchman" in the past. In other words, he's here to warn us that non-observers are wrong, and to ensure that our blood is not in his hands. Herbert Armstrong allegedly viewed himself in a similar manner, although I think his involvement was more self-seeking. He enjoyed a very high standard of living at the expense of poorer church members. I remember many poorer Armstrongites scraping to survive, while allocating more than 23 percent of their gross income to devotional purposes (they taught a three-tithe requirement, with offerings being mandatory in addition to the tithes), while Herbert Armstrong flew around the world in a corporate jet and lived in a mansion with a full staff of servants. This brings to mind the phrase "devouring widows' houses".
By the way, this isn't isolated to Armstrong; Jim Staley, a Hebrew Roots teacher who is respected amongst many Judaizers, bilked senior citizens out of millions in retirement funds before being caught and prosecuted. Those who make bold proclamations about being "Torah observers" often are immoral men themselves in reality.
if it was so plain , where is your bible verses to backup your talk
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Some really are enemies of Christ; others are duped by their nonsense. I was duped by their nonsense yet a believer. However, I wouldn't give too good of odds on a person who has been a long-term member of such organizations being a saved believer.
The teachers themselves are enemies of Christ. Some of their sheep are doctrinally confused believers.
It is a good reminder to evaluate peoples' doctrines (and lifestyle) before listening to them very much, though. Wish I had done that with regards to Herbert Armstrong.
The teachers themselves are enemies of Christ. Some of their sheep are doctrinally confused believers.
It is a good reminder to evaluate peoples' doctrines (and lifestyle) before listening to them very much, though. Wish I had done that with regards to Herbert Armstrong.
I do want to say one thing out of fairness, though...Hebrew Roots Movement and Messianic Jews would not like at all being associated with Armstrongites like prove-all and john832.
Armstrongites believe they are God in embryonic form, to be born as fully God in the resurrection, just like God the Father and Jesus Christ. They deny the Trinity, in part, because of this "God Family" doctrine.
For them, their life of obedience to Herbert Armstrong's patchwork doctrinal system qualifies them for salvation and for rulership in the God Family.
They believe that they will be ruling over the rest of mankind throughout the Millennium as God beings.
They also consider non-observing, non-Armstrongites who have placed their faith in Jesus and his atoning sacrifice to be unsaved and spiritually blinded to "the truth", which is what they call their belief system. They teach that Christianity is a Satanic counterfeit of the "true faith", which is Armstrongism. They wouldn't even consider Hebrew Roots Movement adherents or Messianic Jews to be believers, if they hold to Armstrongism.
So, I do want to acknowledge this...in all fairness to Hebrew Roots Movement adherents and Messianic Jews...Armstrongites are on a whole different level of nuttiness.
Thank Jesus he delivered me from their foolishness....Hallelujah Lord Jesus!
Armstrongites believe they are God in embryonic form, to be born as fully God in the resurrection, just like God the Father and Jesus Christ. They deny the Trinity, in part, because of this "God Family" doctrine.
For them, their life of obedience to Herbert Armstrong's patchwork doctrinal system qualifies them for salvation and for rulership in the God Family.
They believe that they will be ruling over the rest of mankind throughout the Millennium as God beings.
They also consider non-observing, non-Armstrongites who have placed their faith in Jesus and his atoning sacrifice to be unsaved and spiritually blinded to "the truth", which is what they call their belief system. They teach that Christianity is a Satanic counterfeit of the "true faith", which is Armstrongism. They wouldn't even consider Hebrew Roots Movement adherents or Messianic Jews to be believers, if they hold to Armstrongism.
So, I do want to acknowledge this...in all fairness to Hebrew Roots Movement adherents and Messianic Jews...Armstrongites are on a whole different level of nuttiness.
Thank Jesus he delivered me from their foolishness....Hallelujah Lord Jesus!
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I said you lied: when you said John was an Armstrongites.
That was the topic, that was proven false in link provided.
you asked questions[Easy enough.] he replyed to them.
- you claimed John was an Armstrongites- I said that was a lie.
John gave you ample verses to back up anything he said about this.
If you do not believe the bible that is on you not him.
-posted link to an old discussion between you two
Johns reply
So after this he told you he did not follow Armstrong, and several other places,
He followed the bible and gave verses, you lied and still called him an Armstrong again.
That was the topic, that was proven false in link provided.
you asked questions[Easy enough.] he replyed to them.
- you claimed John was an Armstrongites- I said that was a lie.
John gave you ample verses to back up anything he said about this.
If you do not believe the bible that is on you not him.
-posted link to an old discussion between you two
Johns reply
So after this he told you he did not follow Armstrong, and several other places,
He followed the bible and gave verses, you lied and still called him an Armstrong again.
As for me, you continue to say I will be equal with the father, in a slanders
way, just to make people think I am crazy or others are wonkey doctrine.
I discussed this several times, I and John gave verses in this reguard.
I will ask again for like the 3rd time. Please stop saying this statement.
You twist peoples views and try using it againest them in a bad lite.
We will be higher then the angeles, but not higher then Father and Christ.
Not ever have I heard or said otherwise. you just not believe scripture.
you reject the "God Family" doctrine, and follow a man made tradation.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it:
for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Matthew 5:19 (KJV)
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach
men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall
do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
We are now begotten Sons of God- So also my son is in my family- we are called sons.
where will you be in the mill ? oh wait you do not believe this, also from the bible.
Funny I try doing just that, by honoring the shed blood on the Passover Sabbath,
to do this in rememberance of Him. what do you do ? keep easter and christmas.
I keep the seventh day to remember to honor Gods creation like [He said to]
This would be only one of Gods Holy convocations made by God, for God.
He told us to keep this [passover] till his return- only sign given to us -Jonah.
Lets evaluate the caracter of the person, not his life history.
What fruits does the person show on this forum, all we can see.
Does he lie or twist the truth to make others look bad,
atacking them, and not even replying to bible verses posted?
You say we should listen to Paul, yet reject his wrightens.
You are againest the gospel of the comming kingdom of God on earth.
You have said we will not be kings and priests in the mill. future. -false
You said the family of God subject was blastphemy doctrine. -false
You call be an enemy of Christ for following Christs example.
You call people judizers for keeping the Sabbaths, Jesus and apostles did.
way, just to make people think I am crazy or others are wonkey doctrine.
I discussed this several times, I and John gave verses in this reguard.
I will ask again for like the 3rd time. Please stop saying this statement.
You twist peoples views and try using it againest them in a bad lite.
We will be higher then the angeles, but not higher then Father and Christ.
Not ever have I heard or said otherwise. you just not believe scripture.
you reject the "God Family" doctrine, and follow a man made tradation.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it:
for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Matthew 5:19 (KJV)
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach
men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall
do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
We are now begotten Sons of God- So also my son is in my family- we are called sons.
where will you be in the mill ? oh wait you do not believe this, also from the bible.
Funny I try doing just that, by honoring the shed blood on the Passover Sabbath,
to do this in rememberance of Him. what do you do ? keep easter and christmas.
I keep the seventh day to remember to honor Gods creation like [He said to]
This would be only one of Gods Holy convocations made by God, for God.
He told us to keep this [passover] till his return- only sign given to us -Jonah.
Lets evaluate the caracter of the person, not his life history.
What fruits does the person show on this forum, all we can see.
Does he lie or twist the truth to make others look bad,
atacking them, and not even replying to bible verses posted?
You say we should listen to Paul, yet reject his wrightens.
You are againest the gospel of the comming kingdom of God on earth.
You have said we will not be kings and priests in the mill. future. -false
You said the family of God subject was blastphemy doctrine. -false
You call be an enemy of Christ for following Christs example.
You call people judizers for keeping the Sabbaths, Jesus and apostles did.
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Re: THE FOLLIES AND FALSE TEACHINGS OF JUDAIZERS LIKE HEBREW ROOT MOVEMENT/MESSIANIC
Hebrews 7: 11-19
Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there For the that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?12 The priesthood[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. [/FONT]13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood.[a] 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. 17 For He testifies:[b]
“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”[c]
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God
[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Very interesting dialogue going on here. As a christian for the last 45 years I was under works righteousness or a mixture of Law and Grace and lived a very miserable life trying to work for God to earn acceptance or prove to him I was worthy of his acceptance.
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As christians we are never to serve God under obligation or the keeping of rules and regulations. The book of Hebrews is one of my favorite books because it was written to the Jews who had lived under the Mosaic Law and now had converted to Christianity and were suffering severe persecution by the Judiazers for exchanging Law for Grace.
One of the Key elements in the above excerpt from Hebrews is verse 14 It states that Jesus was from the tribe of Judah not under the Aaronic Priesthood. Verse 12 states when there is a change of priest hood there is a change of Covenants. If you go down to verse 22 it says Jesus became the surety of a BETTER COVENANT. In chapter 8 verses 7-13 it plainly states that the first covenant was full of fault and that a second covenant was established that was far better than the first and that the first was obsolete.
The entire Old Testament points to Jesus being the author of a new and better Covenant with man that did not require works and rule keeping to be justified. Galatians 3:10 plainly states if you approach
God based on the Law you put yourself under a curse. I timothy 9: states the Law is not for a RIGHTEOUS man. But it does say there is a a correct way to use the law. The only thing the law reveals is you cannot keep it, it reveals sin and you need a savior because trying to keep the law to be righteous is impossible. Keeping the law, its feast days, observing days, abstaining from eating of meats, Temple worship, animal sacrifices is forbidden under the new covenant.
In Matthew through John Jesus was bring the message of Grace to the Jews under the Law and they basically rejected him because they would not accept the prophecy given to them in Jeremiah 31:31-34. They also could not accept the fact that in Jeremiah 3: 8-9 God had divorced Israel because they continued to break the Mosaic law. He basically washed his hands of them and continued to deal with the Remnant who were faithful to the Law and looking forward to a new and better covenant through Jesus. The gospels is Jesus pleading to the Jews that they were in error and that He was the fulfillment of the Old covenant. They rejected him and crucified him and his message.
After the resurrection, the entire Epistles deal with what God did through Jesus for not only the jewish race, but the whole world. There is neither Greek nor Jew, slave nor free, male or female. Once you accept Jesus, no matter what race, tribe color or creed you are you are now a new creature in Christ.Your identified as in Christ, not in Law or nationality
I do not understand why the modern American Church can not separate the Mosaic Law and the New Covenant message of Grace.
Just want to caveat that I do think holiness, works and discipline are essential in living a life for Christ. However, if you are doing it to be loved and accepted by God you are into dead works and trampling the blood of Christ underfoot, making it useless.
Hebrews 7: 11-19
Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there For the that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?12 The priesthood[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. [/FONT]13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood.[a] 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. 17 For He testifies:[b]
“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”[c]
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God
[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Very interesting dialogue going on here. As a christian for the last 45 years I was under works righteousness or a mixture of Law and Grace and lived a very miserable life trying to work for God to earn acceptance or prove to him I was worthy of his acceptance.
[/FONT]
As christians we are never to serve God under obligation or the keeping of rules and regulations. The book of Hebrews is one of my favorite books because it was written to the Jews who had lived under the Mosaic Law and now had converted to Christianity and were suffering severe persecution by the Judiazers for exchanging Law for Grace.
One of the Key elements in the above excerpt from Hebrews is verse 14 It states that Jesus was from the tribe of Judah not under the Aaronic Priesthood. Verse 12 states when there is a change of priest hood there is a change of Covenants. If you go down to verse 22 it says Jesus became the surety of a BETTER COVENANT. In chapter 8 verses 7-13 it plainly states that the first covenant was full of fault and that a second covenant was established that was far better than the first and that the first was obsolete.
The entire Old Testament points to Jesus being the author of a new and better Covenant with man that did not require works and rule keeping to be justified. Galatians 3:10 plainly states if you approach
God based on the Law you put yourself under a curse. I timothy 9: states the Law is not for a RIGHTEOUS man. But it does say there is a a correct way to use the law. The only thing the law reveals is you cannot keep it, it reveals sin and you need a savior because trying to keep the law to be righteous is impossible. Keeping the law, its feast days, observing days, abstaining from eating of meats, Temple worship, animal sacrifices is forbidden under the new covenant.
In Matthew through John Jesus was bring the message of Grace to the Jews under the Law and they basically rejected him because they would not accept the prophecy given to them in Jeremiah 31:31-34. They also could not accept the fact that in Jeremiah 3: 8-9 God had divorced Israel because they continued to break the Mosaic law. He basically washed his hands of them and continued to deal with the Remnant who were faithful to the Law and looking forward to a new and better covenant through Jesus. The gospels is Jesus pleading to the Jews that they were in error and that He was the fulfillment of the Old covenant. They rejected him and crucified him and his message.
After the resurrection, the entire Epistles deal with what God did through Jesus for not only the jewish race, but the whole world. There is neither Greek nor Jew, slave nor free, male or female. Once you accept Jesus, no matter what race, tribe color or creed you are you are now a new creature in Christ.Your identified as in Christ, not in Law or nationality
I do not understand why the modern American Church can not separate the Mosaic Law and the New Covenant message of Grace.
Just want to caveat that I do think holiness, works and discipline are essential in living a life for Christ. However, if you are doing it to be loved and accepted by God you are into dead works and trampling the blood of Christ underfoot, making it useless.
I have no issue with individuals who keep the Sabbath, festivals, and clean meat laws..only those who claim keeping them are a requirement, condition, or necessary fruit of salvation, or claim others are in sin for non-observance.
Are those who don't observe the Sabbath, festivals, and clean meat laws in sin for non-observance? Are keeping these things a requirement, condition or necessary fruit of salvation? Answer me.
I know the answer whether you will expose yourself by answering or not.
Regarding the God family doctrine, I am most certainly fairly representing the Armstrongite view. You post materials from Armstrongite websites such as Philadelphia Church of God. Even your remarks on this topic indicate you believe his teachings.
I encourage everyone to check out this paragraph from Armstrong's writings:
So, the Kingdom of God is simply the begotten and finally born family of God. There was the Word and the Word was with God. They are going to produce a family. They were the beginning of a family of two great personages. And out of matter — nothing but plain matter — but with a spirit put into that matter and finally the Spirit of God to join with that spirit in man, God is going to reproduce Himself; out of such worthless things as you and me. Yes, you and I are pretty worthless in and of ourselves, but do you realize how great we can be? We are the very ones God has called to become His sons, to be born of Him and to become very God ourselves. Oh, how wonderful that is, and that's something that no church understands, no church believes, no church teaches it.
Here's a link to an Armstrongte website that has this quote:
Accreditation - Herbert W Armstrong
Armstrong taught that resurrected human beings would become "very God" in the resurrection..and that God was reproducing Himself in a literal way.
I was an Armstrongite for 10 years, and my mother was a member for 20 years longer than that. I definitely know what they taught.
According to Armstrong, God was literally reproducing Himself. When one is baptized and hands are laid on him, God basically impregnates the believer with his "sperm", the Holy Spirit. That begins a pregnancy, that terminates at the resurrection in the person being "born again" into the Family of God, just like a child is born into a human family at birth. They denied the Christian concept of being "born again" because they claimed being "born again" was being resurrected as a God being into the God family. The believer's responsibility is to live a life of obedience in order to qualify to become a God being.
This view is so stupid I couldn't make something like it up.
Anyways..I could come up with tons of quotes but people can simply do the research themselves. Just google for "Herbert Armstrong" and "God family". The things he taught are plainly researchable on the Internet. You can also read the books "The Incredible Human Potential" and "Mystery of the Ages" where he plainly teaches these things.
If prove-all wants to say "I reject Herbert Armstrong's teachings, and he was a false teacher. I don't believe I'm going to become a God in the resurrection, and join the God Family" I'd be glad to modify my comments. But, I know precisely what Herbert Armstrong and his organization taught. There is no misunderstanding or slander on my part, and the claim is easy to research.
Are those who don't observe the Sabbath, festivals, and clean meat laws in sin for non-observance? Are keeping these things a requirement, condition or necessary fruit of salvation? Answer me.
I know the answer whether you will expose yourself by answering or not.
Regarding the God family doctrine, I am most certainly fairly representing the Armstrongite view. You post materials from Armstrongite websites such as Philadelphia Church of God. Even your remarks on this topic indicate you believe his teachings.
I encourage everyone to check out this paragraph from Armstrong's writings:
So, the Kingdom of God is simply the begotten and finally born family of God. There was the Word and the Word was with God. They are going to produce a family. They were the beginning of a family of two great personages. And out of matter — nothing but plain matter — but with a spirit put into that matter and finally the Spirit of God to join with that spirit in man, God is going to reproduce Himself; out of such worthless things as you and me. Yes, you and I are pretty worthless in and of ourselves, but do you realize how great we can be? We are the very ones God has called to become His sons, to be born of Him and to become very God ourselves. Oh, how wonderful that is, and that's something that no church understands, no church believes, no church teaches it.
Here's a link to an Armstrongte website that has this quote:
Accreditation - Herbert W Armstrong
Armstrong taught that resurrected human beings would become "very God" in the resurrection..and that God was reproducing Himself in a literal way.
I was an Armstrongite for 10 years, and my mother was a member for 20 years longer than that. I definitely know what they taught.
According to Armstrong, God was literally reproducing Himself. When one is baptized and hands are laid on him, God basically impregnates the believer with his "sperm", the Holy Spirit. That begins a pregnancy, that terminates at the resurrection in the person being "born again" into the Family of God, just like a child is born into a human family at birth. They denied the Christian concept of being "born again" because they claimed being "born again" was being resurrected as a God being into the God family. The believer's responsibility is to live a life of obedience in order to qualify to become a God being.
This view is so stupid I couldn't make something like it up.
Anyways..I could come up with tons of quotes but people can simply do the research themselves. Just google for "Herbert Armstrong" and "God family". The things he taught are plainly researchable on the Internet. You can also read the books "The Incredible Human Potential" and "Mystery of the Ages" where he plainly teaches these things.
If prove-all wants to say "I reject Herbert Armstrong's teachings, and he was a false teacher. I don't believe I'm going to become a God in the resurrection, and join the God Family" I'd be glad to modify my comments. But, I know precisely what Herbert Armstrong and his organization taught. There is no misunderstanding or slander on my part, and the claim is easy to research.