ISLAM and MUSLIMS

[Magenta]

It would be nice if people like Miri, and maybe even Miri especially, could acknowledge that her outrage does not wash; for instance, for her to say I do not think Muslims deserve to hear the truth is just more of the hatred, hypocrisy, and lies that have been so apparent in this thread, coming mainly from those who refuse to open their eyes to what is going on in the world where Muslims are allowed to proliferate, directed at those exposing the truth of the evils of Islam. Do I expect an apology for this lies that others tell about me? Well, let's just say I will not be holding my breath.

I try to show her how they do not accept the truth of Scripture in a very fundamental way, because she claimed they accepted the first five books of the Bible, and she flies off the handle and falsely accuses me of desiring to keep the truth from them, among other bogus accusations, while she pretends they already have the foundations of truth. She completely minimized their rejection of the foundations of Christianity and God's plan for humanity as laid out in Scripture, through the coming of Jesus Christ, through the line of Isaac, just as promised to Abraham and Sarah, not Abraham and Hagar through Ishmael as Muslims believe.

It is NOT minimally immaterial that they remove Christ from God's plan and insert Mohammed, and it is it is ridiculous for anyone to pretend otherwise, while throwing around their moral outrage for being made aware of such deceptions.

How to explain your dishonesty, Miri? Should I rebuke you again for all your false accusations and your misrepresentations of what Muslims believe of Scripture? I rebuke you! Stop pretending that Muslims accept the foundations of Truth within the Bible. They do not. Stop pretending my desire to educate YOU as to how they do not agree with or accept Scripture as you pretend they do means I want to keep the truth from others and prevent the spread of the gospel. Your lack of honesty and desire to deceive on these matters is disturbing! I rebuke you! See? I can rebuke you, too. Maybe you can give others lessons on rebuking. Just make sure to get your facts straight, first, because otherwise, you are taking the Lord's name in vain.

 

[Miri]

Magenta there is something very off with you at the moment.

My previous posts were to encourage and share testimony to how it is
possible to spread the gospel to Muslims and where to start.

If you are unable to see that for what it was, then I think you may be
batting for the wrong side. Maybe you need to calm down a bit and take
stock about why the possibility of sharing the gospel with Muslims,
gets you all riled up, and how the Holy Spirit can bring Muslim
people across our paths at just the right time.

I wont be posting any more on this thread as I see no need for pointless
countless arguments, which will interfere with the debates others are having.
The only reason I have posted this is because previous
posts were in the public.

But if you want to discuss further then as long as you keep it civil I would
welcome PMs.

Just one other point yes some Muslims murder, rape etc. But hey look at the
life of Saul/Paul. He deliberately sought out Christians to persecute them.
Look what God did in his life. No one can sink so far as to be unreachable.
There are also many Muslims who do not murder, rape etc who live out life's like
normal every day people, working having children, paying bills, doing the gardening
etc.

 

[Magenta]

Magenta there is something very off with you at the moment.

Your posts to me were off. You falsely accused me of a number of things and refuse even now to acknowledge that I commended you for what you are doing in witnessing to Muslims. Perhaps you simply cannot stand to have your error pointed out to you, and I am sorry for you for that. Your desire to have civil discourse means you must stop pretending you have not falsely accused me. I see nothing polite in your lies about me.

 

[Magenta]

If you are unable to see that for what it was, then I think you may be
batting for the wrong side. Maybe you need to calm down a bit and take
stock about why the possibility of sharing the gospel with Muslims,
gets you all riled up, and how the Holy Spirit can bring Muslim
people across our paths at just the right time.

See, this is what I mean. Here you are accusing me of working for Satan while you pretend I am off because you do not like having your error pointed out to you. Your assertion to wanting polite discourse seems another of your lies in the face of your continued attacks on me and your refusal to admit the fact that you have falsely accused me of quite a few things.

 

[PrynceNY]

I don't know what the arguement is about but it is ironic you talk about pointing out peoples error yet when people have pointed out yours you raged and argued with them. the lord spoke about those who divide his flock but that's all i'll say

 

[Magenta]

I don't know what the arguement is about but it is ironic you talk about pointing out peoples error yet when people have pointed out yours you raged and argued with them. the lord spoke about those who divide his flock but that's all i'll say

Let me ask you something: is Christ foundational to the truth of Scripture, or is He not? If someone said they accepted the foundations of Scripture while rejecting Christ, would you say they were deceived? I know you have a bone to pick with me because you, like many others, have falsely accused me of things you refuse to acknowledge, but please put that bone down and think about the questions I just asked and then answer honestly, and leave the personal attacks of me off, thank you.

 

[Magenta]

I don't know what the arguement is about

I have been accused of working for Satan because I wish to uphold the foundational truth of Scripture. Is that plain enough? There were a number of other false accusations made against me as well.

 

[PrynceNY]

Let me ask you something: is Christ foundational to the truth of Scripture, or is He not? If someone said they accepted the foundations of Scripture while rejecting Christ, would you say they were deceived? I know you have a bone to pick with me because you, like many others, have falsely accused me of things you refuse to acknowledge, but please put that bone down and think about the questions I just asked and then answer honestly, and leave the personal attacks of me off, thank you.

Well for one i never falsely accused you i pointed out an obvious error that wasnt a big deal. It's you who took it as a personal attack in which it wasn't one. I do see the pure hypocrisy while almost everytime people correct you you take it as a personal attack. I was going to turn a blind eye however this is multiple times now your arguing with someone painting yourself out to be the victim. As far as muslims I acknowledge they have a wrong perception of Christ

 

[Magenta]

Well for one i never falsely accused you i pointed out an obvious error that wasnt a big deal. It's you who took it as a personal attack in which it wasn't one. I do see the pure hypocrisy while almost everytime people correct you you take it as a personal attack. I was going to turn a blind eye however this is multiple times now your arguing with someone painting yourself out to be the victim. As far as muslims I acknowledge they have a wrong perception of Christ

No, you falsely accused me of saying something I did not and you continue to pretend I said that which I didn't and present yourself as being in the right. You are deceived and seek to deceive and then want me to admit I am wrong LOL. Stop telling your lies about me please, thank you.

 

[PrynceNY]

No, you falsely accused me of saying something I did not and you continue to pretend I said that which I didn't and present yourself as being in the right. You are deceived and seek to deceive and then want me to admit I am wrong LOL. Stop telling your lies about me please, thank you.

I stated exactly what you indicated mag, God knows the truth so im not going there with you. According to you everyone is decieved, anyone who dares to correct you is a personal attack and regardless of the situation you are always the victim.Notice how you can never give specifics. I'll pray for you regardless.

 

[Magenta]

As far as muslims I acknowledge they have a wrong perception of Christ

Oh wow!!! Thank you for getting back on point after all your lies about me. So you agree then that if someone removes Christ from Scripture they are not, nor could they in any way be considered to be in possession of the foundational truth of Scriptures? Thank you. That is what the "argument" is about. Muslims do not have the foundation. They do not accept Christ. They actually reject Him. Oops, am I acting like a victim, as you falsely accused me, to speak the truth of the matter to the lies told? Do please excuse me.

 

[PrynceNY]

Oh wow!!! Thank you for getting back on point after all your lies about me. So you agree then that if someone removes Christ from Scripture they are not, nor could they in any way be considered to be in possession of the foundational truth of Scriptures? Thank you. That is what the "argument" is about. Muslims do not have the foundation. They do not accept Christ. They actually reject Him. Oops, am I acting like a victim, as you falsely accused me, to speak the truth of the matter to the lies told? Do please excuse me.

Mag as I clearly stated im not talking specifically about this situation. I clearly stated you have in the past painted yourself as the victim in almost every debate when you are corrected. I merely said it's ironic for you to talk about correcting others.

 

[Magenta]

Mag as I clearly stated im not talking specifically about this situation. I clearly stated you have in the past painted yourself as the victim in almost every debate when you are corrected. I merely said it's ironic for you to talk about correcting others.

First you say, give specifics, pretending I had not when I did, now you act as if giving my side by providing specifics paints me as a victim. You are just as hypocritical as anyone else who like you repeatedly refuses to admit their error while pretending I am wrong to protest against your false accusations! Unbelievable! You lie and lie and lie some more and then say, oh, you play the victim.

 

[PrynceNY]

First you say, give specifics, pretending I had not when I did, now you act as if giving my side by providing specifics paints me as a victim. You are just as hypocritical as anyone else who like you repeatedly refuses to admit their error while pretending I am wrong to protest against your false accusations! Unbelievable! You lie and lie and lie some more and then say, oh, you play the victim.

Yup, exactly what I mean your always the victim and everyone is always in error. You never gave specifics about exactly what false statements I made word for word it's always generalization. Not only that i saw you argue with other people in the same thread you raged at me lol. So i mean you can harbor hate if you desire ill still pray for you

 

[Magenta]

Yup, exactly what I mean your always the victim and everyone is always in error. You never gave specifics about exactly what false statements I made word for word it's always generalization. Not only that i saw you argue with other people in the same thread you raged at me lol. So i mean you can harbor hate if you desire ill still pray for you

Your exaggerations are just more dishonesty from you. I have given you the specifics repeatedly and you denied them each time. I did not say what you accused me of, plain and simple, and if you cannot even remember what you said why do you keep bringing it up to throw in my face?

 

[PrynceNY]

Your exaggerations are just more dishonesty from you. I have given you the specifics repeatedly and you denied them each time. I did not say what you accused me of, plain and simple, and if you cannot even remember what you said why do you keep bringing it up to throw in my face?

Sorry but name calling does nothing to me so the only thing your doing unfortunately is bringing more upon yourself on judgement day. Every single thing with you is a personal attack and I stated before it's not that serious. God knows the truth, yet you repeatedly state generalizations. I do recall you and blue saying that person who asked people to pm them as "foolish" to do are you going to acknowledge that or do i have to expose you

 

[Magenta]

Sorry but name calling does nothing to me so the only thing your doing unfortunately is bringing more upon yourself on judgement day. Every single thing with you is a personal attack and I stated before it's not that serious. God knows the truth, yet you repeatedly state generalizations. I do recall you and blue saying that person who asked people to pm them as "foolish" to do are you going to acknowledge that or do i have to expose you

Well for one i never falsely accused you i pointed out an obvious error that wasnt a big deal. It's you who took it as a personal attack in which it wasn't one. I do see the pure hypocrisy while almost everytime people correct you you take it as a personal attack. I was going to turn a blind eye however this is multiple times now your arguing with someone painting yourself out to be the victim. Christ

If name calling does nothing for you, why do you engage in it so much, huh? Do you pretend to not call people names? You have been accusing me of playing the victim. That is name calling. You repeatedly deny that you falsely accused me and pretend it is no big deal LOL wanting me to say I am wrong when I am not. How deceived are you, really? You misrepresent yourself and try to pass yourself off as being honest in a situation where you refuse to admit the truth.

It was four weeks ago you falsely accused me of saying something I did not. Repeatedly you falsely accused me. Oh, no big deal you say hahahahahahaha. Yeah, no big deal to you for me to be lied to repeated by you, and be misrepresented by you, and have you misrepresent yourself to me, and everybody else. These are the specifics which you have asked for and then you further vilify me by saying I play the victim because I give the specifics which you have requested! No big deal you say... you made a big deal of it then and you continue making a big deal of it now, refusing to admit your false accusation.

Now you bring up some other matter??? What the heck are you on about now? I never denied supporting Blue for saying that it was foolish for a woman to ask men to PM her to talk about sexual matters. Expose me? What a joke!

I said you were one of the most disrespectful people I had met here, after you had told a bunch of lies. Your claim was that I had said you were the most disrespectful. I am sorry you are so blind you cannot see the difference between what I actually said and what you repeatedly erroneously claimed I said.

 

[PrynceNY]

If name calling does nothing for you, why do you engage in it so much, huh? Do you pretend to not call people names? You have been accusing me of playing the victim. That is name calling. You repeatedly deny that you falsely accused me and pretend it is no big deal LOL wanting me to say I am wrong when I am not. How deceived are you, really? You misrepresent yourself and try to pass yourself off as being honest in a situation where you refuse to admit the truth. It was four weeks ago you falsely accused me of saying something I did not. Repeatedly you falsely accused me. Oh, no big deal you say hahahahahahaha. Yeah, no big deal to you for me to be lied to repeated by you, and be misrepresented by you, and have you misrepresent yourself to me, and everybody else. These are the specifics which you have asked for and then you further vilify me by saying I play the victim because I give the specifics which you have requested! No big deal you say... you made a big deal of it then and you continue making a big deal of it now, refusing to admit your false accusation. Now you bring up some other matter??? What the heck are you on about now? I never denied supporting Blue for saying that it was foolish for a woman to ask men to PM her to talk about sexual matters. Expose me? What a joke! I said you were one of the most disrespectful people I had met here, after you had told a bunch of lies. Your claim was that I had said you were the most disrespectful. I am sorry you are so blind you cannot see the difference between what I actually said and what you repeatedly erroneously claimed I said.

Mag I saw the post you said about me being "disrespectful" you surely aren't deceiving me. It's a shame i didn't screenshot it when I had the chance. I mean you can deny it and front for people all you want but God knows. It's really unfortunate you dont realise he knows and will address you on it especially calling others liars. Hopefully he has mercy on you though

 

[Magenta]

Mag I saw the post you said about me being "disrespectful" you surely aren't deceiving me. It's a shame i didn't screenshot it when I had the chance. I mean you can deny it and front for people all you want but God knows. It's really unfortunate you dont realise he knows and will address you on it especially calling others liars. Hopefully he has mercy on you though

Wow, here you are lying about it some more. There is no cure for your dishonesty and blindness but the Lord. May he open your stubbornly closed eyes to the truth. In the meantime please let it go. Yeah, you are disrespectful, but still not the most disrespectful. Poor you. You tried so hard, too!

 

[Magenta]

I shall keep in mind that you do not consider it a personal attack to be told you are working for Satan.