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What is apparent to me is this.
I can see how people set their expectations based on past experience.
Until you experience a change in your heart and your emotions readjust, just talking
through ideas with a few words will not convey the realities now seen that were not
apparent before.
I used to think things were complicated, until I realised my past had made things
complicated which the Lord can straighten things out. And theology does not make a
difference, but repentance, confession and searching the Lords heart through prayer
and the word does.
Jesus put it like this
"If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you."
John 15:7
So how many of Christs words can you actually remember?
When Jesus talks about anger, is He talking about anger towards everyone
on just the people of God?
If you do not ask the questions and desire real answers you will miss what
knowing God is all about.
I can see how people set their expectations based on past experience.
Until you experience a change in your heart and your emotions readjust, just talking
through ideas with a few words will not convey the realities now seen that were not
apparent before.
I used to think things were complicated, until I realised my past had made things
complicated which the Lord can straighten things out. And theology does not make a
difference, but repentance, confession and searching the Lords heart through prayer
and the word does.
Jesus put it like this
"If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you."
John 15:7
So how many of Christs words can you actually remember?
When Jesus talks about anger, is He talking about anger towards everyone
on just the people of God?
If you do not ask the questions and desire real answers you will miss what
knowing God is all about.
My problem is how I see God. So you see a problem. You are saying you have spotted a cause,
but what is the problem? That I do not just believe God does everything, I just believe?
What is amazing is this attempt to diagnose a problem rather than feel encouraged to know God
deeper and better.
"I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing."
John 15:5
Walking in love and purity is our calling. I wonder how many actually are listening or
believe this is true?
What is sad is how many unresolved issues are being testified to tonight, kept locked
up and hidden away, as if nothing will change and everything is fine just as it is.
God calls us to bring Him our hurts, our conflicts, our unforgiveness, our sins, our
desires, our dreams, our disappointments and let Him heal and walk with us through
them all. Do you think you can do this, or have ever done this? The loving Jesus
Christ is here wanting to minister to you today. Amen, Come Lord Jesus and heal
your people today, take our sins and shame, forgive us our unbelief and mold us
into the image of your only Son Jesus Christ, for the glory of your Name, Amen.
but what is the problem? That I do not just believe God does everything, I just believe?
What is amazing is this attempt to diagnose a problem rather than feel encouraged to know God
deeper and better.
"I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing."
John 15:5
Walking in love and purity is our calling. I wonder how many actually are listening or
believe this is true?
What is sad is how many unresolved issues are being testified to tonight, kept locked
up and hidden away, as if nothing will change and everything is fine just as it is.
God calls us to bring Him our hurts, our conflicts, our unforgiveness, our sins, our
desires, our dreams, our disappointments and let Him heal and walk with us through
them all. Do you think you can do this, or have ever done this? The loving Jesus
Christ is here wanting to minister to you today. Amen, Come Lord Jesus and heal
your people today, take our sins and shame, forgive us our unbelief and mold us
into the image of your only Son Jesus Christ, for the glory of your Name, Amen.
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...hmmm for folks who don't have a dictionary handy...
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Still don't get ya.
Here is what my NKJV bible study says
Once again Paul speaks of the law and the experience of Abraham, addressing the false teachers’ foundational respect for Abraham (3:6–9) and the Galatians’ infatuation with living under the law. To clinch his lengthy argument about the bondage of the law and the freedom found in Christ, Paul uses as examples the two sons of Abraham. These are Ishmael, who was born of the bondwoman Hagar (v. 24); and Isaac, who was born of Sarah, the rightful wife of Abraham and a freewoman. Appropriately, Paul counters the Jewish false teachers’ zeal for the law with an argument based on the Law, the Pentateuch (Gen. 16:15; 21:2). He uses allegory to prove his point because it was a rhetorical technique the false teachers used. In other words, Paul was demonstrating that he could argue from the Law just as well as they could, but to prove that the Law of Moses pointed to the Messiah, Jesus Christ.
4:23 In Gen. 16, Abraham and Sarah attempted to fulfill God’s promise through their own strength, using Hagar, a bondwoman. In spite of the complications caused by that “fleshly” alternative, Sarah, a freewoman, eventually saw the miraculous outworking of God’s promise in the birth of Isaac (see Gen. 12:2; 15:4).
4:24 symbolic: Paul was using the common Jewish allegorical method of the day to make his point. He used this approach to draw a stark contrast between two biblical covenants at odds with each other in the churches in Galatia: the Abrahamic promise (see Gen. 12:1–3) and the Law of Moses that God gave Israel at Mount Sinai.
4:25 Paul compared Jerusalem, the center of Jewish life, to Mount Sinai, the birthplace of the Law of Moses.
4:26 The Jerusalem above represents the Jewish hope of heaven finally coming to earth (see Rev. 21; 22). Since us all obviously refers to those who are free through faith in Christ (v. 7), Paul was strongly implying that the question at hand was not allegiance to Jerusalem, but allegiance to which Jerusalem—the new or the old? Would the Galatians follow the shortsighted present Jerusalem and its legalism or the liberty of the heavenly Jerusalem?
4:27 Paul quotes Is. 54:1, using the prophesied restoration of Israel from judgment and exile to illustrate how the later-born children of promise would eventually far outnumber the earlier offspring.
4:28–30 This portion of Paul’s allegory is based on Gen. 21:9, 10. Isaac was continually persecuted by his older half brother Ishmael. Eventually, Ishmael and his mother Hagar were expelled because Ishmael had no standing in God’s eyes as heir of Abraham. In creating a parallel between the story from Genesis and the Galatians’ situation, Paul points out that (1) the persecution by the Jewish legalists of his day was not unexpected, and (2) it would not go on indefinitely because the legalists would soon be cast out.
4:31-5:1 So then represents the conclusion of the previous section, while therefore signals that Paul is going to apply this spiritual truth to the lives of the Galatian believers. To be children of the bondwoman is to be enslaved to the covenant from Mount Sinai (4:24, 25), the Law of Moses. To be of the free is to follow Abraham’s example of faith (3:6–9), to be “born according to the Spirit” (3:2; 4:29), and to be destined for the “Jerusalem above” (4:26). Understanding such realities, the believer in Christ must continually stand fast in the liberty of not having to keep the Law of Moses in order to be saved. The Galatians were on the verge of becoming enslaved to the law again.
I can't see from this how Hagars children were under the old covenant.
To me Paul is saying if you want to stay under the old covenant then you are in effect the children of Hagar (even though Israel were not the children of Hagar) yet if you enter into the new covenant then you are the children of Abraham, that is Christ saves and not the law. This is the faith Abraham had.
Abraham had to separate Ishmael from Isaac; not because Isaac was better than Ishmael, but because of the marriage covenant between Abraham and Sarah. God could bless Ishmael, but the covenant had to be maintained through Isaac.
Abraham and Isaac both made tragic mistakes in giving their wives to other men, which endangered both the seed and the covenant. God had to intervene miraculously to rescue the seed, even at the risk of killing an innocent tribe (Genesis 12:10-20; 20:1-9; 26:7-11).
Here is what my NKJV bible study says
Once again Paul speaks of the law and the experience of Abraham, addressing the false teachers’ foundational respect for Abraham (3:6–9) and the Galatians’ infatuation with living under the law. To clinch his lengthy argument about the bondage of the law and the freedom found in Christ, Paul uses as examples the two sons of Abraham. These are Ishmael, who was born of the bondwoman Hagar (v. 24); and Isaac, who was born of Sarah, the rightful wife of Abraham and a freewoman. Appropriately, Paul counters the Jewish false teachers’ zeal for the law with an argument based on the Law, the Pentateuch (Gen. 16:15; 21:2). He uses allegory to prove his point because it was a rhetorical technique the false teachers used. In other words, Paul was demonstrating that he could argue from the Law just as well as they could, but to prove that the Law of Moses pointed to the Messiah, Jesus Christ.
4:23 In Gen. 16, Abraham and Sarah attempted to fulfill God’s promise through their own strength, using Hagar, a bondwoman. In spite of the complications caused by that “fleshly” alternative, Sarah, a freewoman, eventually saw the miraculous outworking of God’s promise in the birth of Isaac (see Gen. 12:2; 15:4).
4:24 symbolic: Paul was using the common Jewish allegorical method of the day to make his point. He used this approach to draw a stark contrast between two biblical covenants at odds with each other in the churches in Galatia: the Abrahamic promise (see Gen. 12:1–3) and the Law of Moses that God gave Israel at Mount Sinai.
4:25 Paul compared Jerusalem, the center of Jewish life, to Mount Sinai, the birthplace of the Law of Moses.
4:26 The Jerusalem above represents the Jewish hope of heaven finally coming to earth (see Rev. 21; 22). Since us all obviously refers to those who are free through faith in Christ (v. 7), Paul was strongly implying that the question at hand was not allegiance to Jerusalem, but allegiance to which Jerusalem—the new or the old? Would the Galatians follow the shortsighted present Jerusalem and its legalism or the liberty of the heavenly Jerusalem?
4:27 Paul quotes Is. 54:1, using the prophesied restoration of Israel from judgment and exile to illustrate how the later-born children of promise would eventually far outnumber the earlier offspring.
4:28–30 This portion of Paul’s allegory is based on Gen. 21:9, 10. Isaac was continually persecuted by his older half brother Ishmael. Eventually, Ishmael and his mother Hagar were expelled because Ishmael had no standing in God’s eyes as heir of Abraham. In creating a parallel between the story from Genesis and the Galatians’ situation, Paul points out that (1) the persecution by the Jewish legalists of his day was not unexpected, and (2) it would not go on indefinitely because the legalists would soon be cast out.
4:31-5:1 So then represents the conclusion of the previous section, while therefore signals that Paul is going to apply this spiritual truth to the lives of the Galatian believers. To be children of the bondwoman is to be enslaved to the covenant from Mount Sinai (4:24, 25), the Law of Moses. To be of the free is to follow Abraham’s example of faith (3:6–9), to be “born according to the Spirit” (3:2; 4:29), and to be destined for the “Jerusalem above” (4:26). Understanding such realities, the believer in Christ must continually stand fast in the liberty of not having to keep the Law of Moses in order to be saved. The Galatians were on the verge of becoming enslaved to the law again.
I can't see from this how Hagars children were under the old covenant.
To me Paul is saying if you want to stay under the old covenant then you are in effect the children of Hagar (even though Israel were not the children of Hagar) yet if you enter into the new covenant then you are the children of Abraham, that is Christ saves and not the law. This is the faith Abraham had.
Abraham had to separate Ishmael from Isaac; not because Isaac was better than Ishmael, but because of the marriage covenant between Abraham and Sarah. God could bless Ishmael, but the covenant had to be maintained through Isaac.
Abraham and Isaac both made tragic mistakes in giving their wives to other men, which endangered both the seed and the covenant. God had to intervene miraculously to rescue the seed, even at the risk of killing an innocent tribe (Genesis 12:10-20; 20:1-9; 26:7-11).
~1Co 2:15 The spiritual person evaluates everything but is subject to no one else's evaluation.
1Co 2:16 For "Who has known the mind of the Lord so that he can advise him?" However, we have the mind of the Messiah.
The heart is the center of all to our body...our nature is what is symbolized. Flesh or our natural man that lives in the world according to the 5 senses of connection, is "circumcised".
~Col 2:11 In union with him you were also circumcised with a circumcision performed without human hands by stripping off the corrupt nature by the circumcision performed by the Messiah.
So is it a changed heart? That would be a picture of continually changing something to another, either by God, or by self. But, is this picture accurate? Yes and no.
In the Spirit of our triune being...we are one with God. In our soul and body? A process of renewed thinking the mind of Christ. There is the change. Both self and Holy Spirit working. Its the soul always needing saved.
We read His Word...see His mind...and the old decays and dies.
Agree but not just prayer. The Word is the chastening hand of God.
What do we think about our past?
Forget about it.
Paul.
~Php 3:8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ
Php 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—
Php 3:10 that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
This one I am still working...~
The Word wells up out of us as we put it in us. Though I've had the Word well up that I knew I'd not read. Never had to memorize it. After all, the Spirit of Christ is the Word of God. Our salvation.
He was angry about men who relied on knowledge of something that always leads to pride. ...no relationship.
Have you asked Him to baptize you Peter?
1Co 2:16 For "Who has known the mind of the Lord so that he can advise him?" However, we have the mind of the Messiah.
The heart is the center of all to our body...our nature is what is symbolized. Flesh or our natural man that lives in the world according to the 5 senses of connection, is "circumcised".
~Col 2:11 In union with him you were also circumcised with a circumcision performed without human hands by stripping off the corrupt nature by the circumcision performed by the Messiah.
So is it a changed heart? That would be a picture of continually changing something to another, either by God, or by self. But, is this picture accurate? Yes and no.
In the Spirit of our triune being...we are one with God. In our soul and body? A process of renewed thinking the mind of Christ. There is the change. Both self and Holy Spirit working. Its the soul always needing saved.
We read His Word...see His mind...and the old decays and dies.
Agree but not just prayer. The Word is the chastening hand of God.
What do we think about our past?
Forget about it.
Paul.~Php 3:8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ
Php 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—
Php 3:10 that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
This one I am still working...~
The Word wells up out of us as we put it in us. Though I've had the Word well up that I knew I'd not read. Never had to memorize it. After all, the Spirit of Christ is the Word of God. Our salvation.
He was angry about men who relied on knowledge of something that always leads to pride. ...no relationship.
Have you asked Him to baptize you Peter?
A
I see what you are saying, but the whole world was placed under the "Law" because by it everyone is condemned and shown to need a savior.
Time crunch today. Will try and post scriptures later.
I believe anyone not under the New Covenant established by Jesus will be judged by the moral laws given to mankind since the beginning of time.
Time crunch today. Will try and post scriptures later.
I believe anyone not under the New Covenant established by Jesus will be judged by the moral laws given to mankind since the beginning of time.