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God draws and man responds. Without His drawing man would have no hope, no salvation. Do you suppose that a man doesn't believe in the Gospel? Why is there a call to believe if believing isn't on the part of man? Why does God tell humanity to repent, if its not on man? Do you see that it is a two way street, and not just God imposing Himself on people?
Oh but we are heretics, don't you know? Because why would God draw people and have them respond in reciprocity to His great love? Right? It is the goodness of God that leads to repentance, but no... man doesn't repent. No.... 
We can do nothing without God, neither good nor evil. We cannot even exist without him. If we believe, it is from Him, if we do not believe, it was not given to us from Him.
From our point of view, we do whatever we wish.
God must be domesticated in some fashion or another for some to then "believe" in Him, He must be reduced to a level of a god they feel comfortable with. Otherwise He cannot be God. Notice however there is no reduction in man's position, but an exaltation - that is what happened when God is reduced in this manner, it is unavoidable, God brought to man's level then exalts man.
But, you know, none of this really matters, they're all just having a "differing opinion". The likes of G7 and others is to attack those who stand for truth, and defend the wolves in the sheepfold.
In Open Theism, it has reduced God to a god who learns. Imagine that for a moment. I had one fellow tell me that Isaiah 1:18 is God asking us to come to Him so He can learn from us. Uh? LOL!!!
As far as the faith (the system of doctrines and teachings that are sound in doctrine) Jude 1:3 some "earnestly contend" for it, others "earnestly compromise" against it.
Iamlearning, lets put it this way, okay? Jesus died on the cross for you. Thats the Gospel truth, He did it personally for you, for me, and for everyone here. That should refute any fearful concept in your mind due to their horrendously distorted use of a verse in order to speculate about things they may not know until they get to the other side.
The fact of the matter is that Jesus died for the world, for all sinners while yet they were considered enemies. Okay? So who then is destined to Hell? Not one. Why? Because Jesus died for all people, for all sins, and once and for all. He sat at the Father's right hand, and is now our High Priest who is able to save us completely because He lives forever interceding on our behalf.
Don't let their speculations place fear in your heart that you aren't of the chosen. You, having believed in the Gospel, are now the temple of the Holy Spirit who is the seal of redemption, a guarantee if you will, of the inheritance to come. Rejoice, because you are a child of God redeemed! There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. As there is no condemnation may that truth rest in your heart so that you may be confident before God as you fellowship with Him. He loves you, He cherishes you. Don't let that truth be stolen from your heart.
The fact of the matter is that Jesus died for the world, for all sinners while yet they were considered enemies. Okay? So who then is destined to Hell? Not one. Why? Because Jesus died for all people, for all sins, and once and for all. He sat at the Father's right hand, and is now our High Priest who is able to save us completely because He lives forever interceding on our behalf.
Don't let their speculations place fear in your heart that you aren't of the chosen. You, having believed in the Gospel, are now the temple of the Holy Spirit who is the seal of redemption, a guarantee if you will, of the inheritance to come. Rejoice, because you are a child of God redeemed! There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. As there is no condemnation may that truth rest in your heart so that you may be confident before God as you fellowship with Him. He loves you, He cherishes you. Don't let that truth be stolen from your heart.
K
To this, I will probably quote Augustin again
"There are some persons who suppose that the freedom of the will is denied whenever God's grace is maintained, and who on their side defend their liberty of will so peremptorily as to deny the grace of God..."
The Biblical teaching is the one that accepts all Bible verses. There our own actions and there is also a clear election and the plan of God, the providence of God, not equal to everybody.
"There are some persons who suppose that the freedom of the will is denied whenever God's grace is maintained, and who on their side defend their liberty of will so peremptorily as to deny the grace of God..."
The Biblical teaching is the one that accepts all Bible verses. There our own actions and there is also a clear election and the plan of God, the providence of God, not equal to everybody.
No.I do not believe in irresistible grace. God is not a dictator. God is not Allah. We choose to accept the free gift.
Pr. 11 says "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise."
Why try to win souls if God already elected who will be saved?
2 Peter 3 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,[a] not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
What does long suffering mean? If He already elected who will be saved why does He need to be long suffering? Its already in the bag,the job is done.
Timothy 2 "... it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,4who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
No purpose to this verse whatsoever. Tear it out,its a lie.He already chose who would be saved so He doesn't desire all to be saved. This verse is a big fat lie.
John 3 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
Crystal clear, he who believes is saved,he who does not is not saved.
1 John 2 "And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world."
1 Tim.2 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all
John 3 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved."
Hebrews 2 "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.
John 3 16 that we learn in Sunday school says "for God so loved that He gave His only Son that whosoever believeth . Choice,he that believes will be saved. The Bible is clear.
Is.53 "All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
We have all gone astray and He paid for all our sins. Why did Jesus have to shed His blood?! He died in vein. The elect will be saved so why did He have to be maimed? No,the Bible does not teach this doctrine,period.
Yeah thats my bad, I looked up the topic and was doing some research when I came across that article and it had some good points but I didn't realize the source. I guess I've got to keep in mind to check the source, as that really is necessary. A lesson learned Thank you for pointing that out. In the future I suppose I should make sure to clarify what I may like about an article and whether or not the source is well rounded or not. As I said, had no clue who the man was.
Having looked into what this open theism is, it's seems like a more open minded approach to God and says that those who portray God as ordaining whatever happens reduces humans to robots.
There are a few closed minded people here who are like robots. "You are wrong" seems to be their most positive and self-satisfying dialog. And because there are a few of them they are like a tag-team of multiple people who will gang up on one person to try and dispirit them in what they believe. That is not love and never will be.
This is different to appreciating every person as having their own opinion (therefore that we are not all robots), rather than you are the truth and those who don't submit to your truth are deluding themselves. Or maybe you are so clever you have a category for everyone, are you a psychiatrist of theology? I doubt it.
One of those is cold, one of those is loving.
God is Love. And I like to think none of us are perfectly right none of us are perfectly wrong, we are all on the same page trying to engage each other in following God together, rather than placing clear walls between two sides based on views.
Everyone here believes in Jesus right? So why not act like brothers and sisters, rather than replacing Jesus with 'you are the way, the life and the truth and everyone must submit to your truth'. It's just aggression, and it comes from deep seated anger. And I'm pretty sure these people won't admit any of what makes them that way, but if they were more open about that, maybe everyone can help each other with what IS important.
There are a few closed minded people here who are like robots. "You are wrong" seems to be their most positive and self-satisfying dialog. And because there are a few of them they are like a tag-team of multiple people who will gang up on one person to try and dispirit them in what they believe. That is not love and never will be.
This is different to appreciating every person as having their own opinion (therefore that we are not all robots), rather than you are the truth and those who don't submit to your truth are deluding themselves. Or maybe you are so clever you have a category for everyone, are you a psychiatrist of theology? I doubt it.
One of those is cold, one of those is loving.
God is Love. And I like to think none of us are perfectly right none of us are perfectly wrong, we are all on the same page trying to engage each other in following God together, rather than placing clear walls between two sides based on views.
Everyone here believes in Jesus right? So why not act like brothers and sisters, rather than replacing Jesus with 'you are the way, the life and the truth and everyone must submit to your truth'. It's just aggression, and it comes from deep seated anger. And I'm pretty sure these people won't admit any of what makes them that way, but if they were more open about that, maybe everyone can help each other with what IS important.