Does Anyone Here Teach The Following?
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Heh, you say you are lazy but you ADD a letter, making more work for your selves
Anyways, not a big deal really, though it does bother me when people continually call someone the wrong name... when someone calls me Magneto, I have to figure they have done it on purpose, though I had no idea who Magneto was at first haha so their attempt to insult me was wasted... and then when I found out who Magneto was (my daughter told me), I took it as a compliment, anyways, foiling the intent once again
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, oh my lanEveryone thinks I misspelled my name. LOL. Has happened since I got here. It's supposed to be a play on words. I guess I shoulda went with something else. Kinda stuck with it now though.
AHHHHH! Oh my land! How the brain tricks the eye!!! I never noticed until just this second!! lol Now I get what Magenta was saying. Shoot Ive been saying it wrong all this time!!!
Heehee proving once again that English is not an easy language to master...And I thought that fourth and forth is the same thing, like colour and color
However, native English speakers should know the difference...
But then, many cannot tell the difference between "have" and "of"
There you go again - I never even mentioned anything of the sort. How is it that you are always arguing things never stated?
I didn't write the Bible but thanks. That's called Scripture.
The above is built upon the middle quote, so of course it is off track and of course ad hominem. Yes, quoting Scripture is to you plain arrogance. This is what happens when you are refuted, you resort to your nature and name call.
The thing is you were refuted for arguing a straw man while making false accusations on other persons here.
You can't even man up to that and say, "You're right, no one has really said that. I'm wrong and that wasn't truthful." Nope. Can't be doing that. Instead you resort to attack mode once again.
Nor can you address the actual Scriptures given, just the person and how you feel about them.
I'm sticking to facts: Your initial post I responded to was filled with falsified statements no one has made. That is called bearing false witness, that 9th commandment thing. You won't respond to that because you know what I said is true, but you won't man up.
But I digress, go for it, call me some more names. You can get the last word in, there is no sense in me having dialog with people who are going to dishonest and slander.
Zactly. Look at the 'Golden Chain of Redemption' in Romans 8:28-30. Those whom He foreknew, He predestined. Those He predestined He called. Those He called He justified. Those He justified He glorified. These workings of God link together and link together those He chose from before the creation of the world.
Now, if this chain refers to everyone w/o exception, then its an open and shut case for universalism. Because, if God foreknew, predestined, called and justified everyone w/o exception, these are also glorified. No one is glorified and cast into the lake of fire
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Yeesh! Why would I talk about the evil of double predestination when I'm still shaky on why it's not double-predestination? I kind of still do think it's double-predestination. All deserve separation from God, death and hell, and yet God chose some out of that all. Does that not also say he destined the rest to get what we all deserve?
AND, exactly what do you guys think that is any different? Are you universalists? I don't think so, (except for one person who has come to this thread, but that's because he says he is, so it's not a guess.) So, all this anger of predestination (and/or double-predestination), and you face headlong into the same thing. God has saved some and not saved some. How do you excuse God for that?
I'm going with you don't excuse him at all. No idea how you bypass that one, but it still comes down to we believe the same thing. God saves some and he doesn't save many.
Maybe if you weren't so busy blasting the Reformed, you'd actually see what we believe. We're not one big glob of agreement. But, no. We are evil bullies, and your side is perfect and saintly.
You've proved my point. You're so damn angry you aren't even listening to someone you have "no beef" with. Peachy-keen. An equal opportunity anger that goes straight into lying to prove your point.
Bitterness has gotten you so tied up, it's horrible to watch. The Lord can free you from it.
At least, I've been consistent. I don't think either side is losing out on God's love, mercy, and salvation because of how we believe our version of "God saves some, but he doesn't save all." You've been bitter on the Reformed since you started. The only reason you were kind to me is because you thought you could sway me.
And now, the mask comes off simply because you can't.
Meanwhile, I still think you can be saved, and might possibly be saved, but man! You're bitterness makes bile taste good by now. You're not the only bitter one on this thread, but does that make it okay to be so bitter?
Heehee proving once again that English is not an easy language to master...
However, native English speakers should know the difference...
But then, many cannot tell the difference between "have" and "of"
I do not understand but nevermind, I like it
I wanted to address the idea of blasphemy again, since someone (was it you, SovereignGrace? can't really remember, sorry! And maybe it was more than one person, but anyways...) was saying that it does not apply any more and was only applicable to those who denied Jesus to His face, but that cannot be right, or Paul would not have called himself a blasphemer, and if Paul really does not understand what blasphemy is, then we need to throw the majority of the NT out
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”
Whoever is defined they are those that believe or the elect, how do you know who the elect are, they believe. Notice 17 Jesus did not come to condemn the world, but that it might be saved. 18 those that do not believe are condemned already, God does not elect them to hell they chose to go there. 19 light came, but people loved their wickedness rather then the light (Jesus). 20 they hate the light and do not come lest their wickedness be exposed. 21 those that come to the light so that it may be clearly seen that God accomplished in them.
Yeah, that's the first thing that came to mind when I read your erroneous statement.
So, Jesus could have gone back on all His OT prophecies that He promised to fulfill? Wow, God could actually renege on His promises of Messiah and the fulfillments. That's interesting. I see you have garnered a couple folk and hoodwinked them with your error.
Tell me more about this false god who can make Messianic promises and then renege on them and still be Holy, Righteous and incapable of lying.
Heh, you say you are lazy but you ADD a letter, making more work for your selves
Anyways, not a big deal really, though it does bother me when people continually call someone the wrong name... when someone calls me Magneto, I have to figure they have done it on purpose, though I had no idea who Magneto was at first haha so their attempt to insult me was wasted... and then when I found out who Magneto was (my daughter told me), I took it as a compliment, anyways, foiling the intent once again
Its all cool sister I think names are important. In ForthAngel's case it it changes things a bit in its meaning.
Also quick question about your name here . Besides your like for the color where did you get your name? Unless that's it . First time I saw it I could not get let's do the time warp again out of my head .
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I will try to explain and hope Kayla does not mind a little levity in her threadI do not understand but nevermind, I like it
People say something like, "I should of gone home."
When what they mean is "I should have gone home."
See? They substitute "of" for "have" though grammatically it makes NO SENSE!!!
They sound similar because they think "should've."
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Ah, nuts! So you're not really Bubba.Here's my point. We rest in the finished works of the cross. Nothing can be added to this work. That's why we aver faith and repentance are both gifts of God. Both of these are necessary in being saved. If we bring our faith, meaning we innately possess faith, then it was our faith + the cross works of the Christ that saved us. Then, the cross was not the sole sufficient source of our salvation.
The point I am making is the Christ's crossworks actually saves all those it was intended to save. If He died for everyone and rose for everyone's justification, then all will be saved.
Oh, and its Bubby. Around here in WVa, ppl are Bubby and Sissy.
I will try to explain and hope Kayla does not mind a little levity in her thread
People say something like, "I should of gone home."
When what they mean is "I should have gone home."
See? They substitute "of" for "have" though grammatically it makes NO SENSE!!!
They sound similar because they think "should've."
Oh now you reminded me those strange English formulations we had to learn in high school and I have never used them later
Should have gone... brrrr
It is blaspheming the Spirit that caused ppl to be eternally doomed. Jesus said you could speak ill of Him or the Father and still be forgiven. But to speak ill of the Spirit and there's no foregiveness in this age or the one to come.I wanted to address the idea of blasphemy again, since someone (was it you, SovereignGrace? can't really remember, sorry! And maybe it was more than one person, but anyways...) was saying that it does not apply any more and was only applicable to those who denied Jesus to His face, but that cannot be right, or Paul would not have called himself a blasphemer, and if Paul really does not understand what blasphemy is, then we need to throw the majority of the NT out
They, the religious leaders, attributed the Christ's works to the devil. They said He had an evil spirit. That's the blasphemy that's unpardonable. I don't think ppl today can blaspheme the Spirit as those leaders did, as they visably saw the Christ's works and attributed them to Satan. None see this as they did.
Thank you, Bill, I think names are important also
The name "Magenta" was given to me by a friend of mine many years ago, due to my
love of the color purple. Yes, there was a character with that name in that movie
My friend passed on from this world seventeen years ago,
and I worked with her for seventeen years before that
There was no arrogance in that post. Why misrepresent him?
And yes, the gospel is for all who believe in it. And it is not for all who who don't believe in it, correct?
So, all doesn't mean all, as in everyone w/o exception. All means all within a subset.