Does Anyone Here Teach The Following?

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kaylagrl

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Okay, defending a brother has nothing to do with me.

Great! Does anything have anything to do with God for you? Because, personally, I thought we were supposed to be protective of each other. Somebody says something against family, yes, this is what I do. Love them.

(Still all about you.)
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Like I said before,when you make it about God we'll deal on that level. Until you stop jumping me for any reason you can find ,this is how it will be,or you can put me on ignore since we're no longer friends.

Soooo family is who according to you?? Who is worth defending? Can you clarify that for me?
 
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preacher4truth said:
You're getting out of control here. I offered some biblical correction and insight. But this is how you respond to me, you've done this several times now and have apologized once iirc.



You weren't slammed for anything. I showed how biblically we are referred to as sheep. Then you came back with an ad hominem response. Same here as well.



You should try practicing that yourself.



We are called His sheep, flock, in NT epistles when referring to the church. Sorry, but you're incorrect. Shall I await your next name calling response?
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~1Pe 1:1
　 From: Peter, an apostle of Jesus, the Messiah. To: The exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

Jews

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1Pe 2:25　 You were "like sheep that kept going astray," but now you have returned to the shepherd and overseer of your souls.　

Sonship is what the body of Christ has been given. The mind of Christ.

I lost control to the Lord long ago.





　
 
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BeyondET said:
I like this much better than my analogy, I kind of went the other with it, linen fibers being hollow, lol
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No, don't give up.. there may be something that He wants to show you specifically in this. Whatever revelation is given it makes sense with other scriptures. You will know when you pursue.

I believe wholeheartedly in scripture interpreting scripture when it comes to allegorical meanings.

Jesus spoke in parables and with your studies you will see more what He is speaking about.
 
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stonesoffire said:
~1Pe 1:1
　 From: Peter, an apostle of Jesus, the Messiah. To: The exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

Jews

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1Pe 2:25　 You were "like sheep that kept going astray," but now you have returned to the shepherd and overseer of your souls.　

Sonship is what the body of Christ has been given. The mind of Christ.

I lost control to the Lord long ago.





　
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And the body of Christ is comprised of both believing Jews and Gentiles. They were all sheep having went astray. Jesus said He had sheep not of this pen(Jews) that He must bring in(Gentiles). There will be one Shepherd(Christ) and one sheep pen(believing Jews and Gentiles).
 
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stonesoffire said:
No, don't give up.. there may be something that He wants to show you specifically in this. Whatever revelation is given it makes sense with other scriptures. You will know when you pursue.

I believe wholeheartedly in scripture interpreting scripture when it comes to allegorical meanings.

Jesus spoke in parables and with your studies you will see more what He is speaking about.
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Indeed thank you,

Na giving up isn't even in my volcabulary... :)
 
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kaylagrl said:
Read Romans 11 its all there. And God allowing them to be blinded for a time does not mean they still dont have the free will to believe or not believe,since a remnant will be saved.


Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
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Right, and they have to respond to the free gift of salvation like everyone else, by grace through faith. They must believe the gospel by faith.
 
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SovereignGrace said:
And the body of Christ is comprised of both believing Jews and Gentiles. They were all sheep having went astray. Jesus said He had sheep not of this pen(Jews) that He must bring in(Gentiles). There will be one Shepherd(Christ) and one sheep pen(believing Jews and Gentiles).
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Fine with me SG...stay a sheep.
 
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Milk is a metaphor for the word as newborn babes in Christ, we couldn't grasp the meat. As babies, we had to have milk as that's all we could handle. The same with meat being a metaphor for the word. Once we get older in our christian walk, we get deeper in the word, are able to grasp the deep things of God.

Sadly, too many are stuck on bottles and like it that way.
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Meat is being able to discern good or evil.

Getting deeper in the word is the milk still and folks spit it up instead of read and drink it into their hearts and minds,

Most folks haven't even read the Bible through even once.

However thank God He sends His Holy spirit to lead His children. Otherwise the kids would have fallen in a lot more ditches.
 
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stonesoffire said:
Fine with me SG...stay a sheep.
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Jesus told Peter to "feed my sheep", why the hostility to the metaphor?

Jesus said he would judge between sheep and goats...therefore it's a good thing to be one of God's sheep.
 
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I'm not hostile to the metaphor. I said Israel is the sheep. Peter was told to feed His lambs and sheep, true. He had the ministry to the Jews. And Paul to the gentiles.

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The truth is that IN Christ...we are Sons.

A sheep won't rule in His authority. Now I bet this will cause a problem

But, the Sons will understand.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Jesus told Peter to "feed my sheep", why the hostility to the metaphor?

Jesus said he would judge between sheep and goats...therefore it's a good thing to be one of God's sheep.
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You probably should read all of the posts Ariel to understand. Just the last two pages or so.
 
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Songs From the Red Letters CD
Matthew 8:23-25 and 6:14-15

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stonesoffire said:
I'm not hostile to the metaphor. I said Israel is the sheep. Peter was told to feed His lambs and sheep, true. He had the ministry to the Jews. And Paul to the gentiles.

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Hehe, question is who are the lamb or hogget or mutton.
 
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stonesoffire said:
I'm not hostile to the metaphor. I said Israel is the sheep. Peter was told to feed His lambs and sheep, true. He had the ministry to the Jews. And Paul to the gentiles.

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Oh...you are a dual covenant believer?

Separate way of salvation for Jews and Gentiles?

Or do you mean something else?

I believe Peter ministered to both Jews and Gentiles..it's in Acts 11.

I did skim the thread. I still believe Jesus called His people (both Jew and gentile) His sheep

Galatians 3:28 ►
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There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
 
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stonesoffire

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Never heard of dual covenant believers. Where does this even come from?

Was just saying that Peter was given the commission to his own people. Paul, to the gentiles. That's in Acts too.

Sheep and goats are about nations. Which God, god, is their God. All nations worship something or someone.
 
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OK, Jesus break



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BeyondET

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The thought of being a mutton kind of freaks me out, hahaha, let me just stop with that, I'm out later. lol
 
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stonesoffire said:
~1Pe 1:1
　 From: Peter, an apostle of Jesus, the Messiah. To: The exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

Jews

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1Pe 2:25　 You were "like sheep that kept going astray," but now you have returned to the shepherd and overseer of your souls.　

Sonship is what the body of Christ has been given. The mind of Christ.


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Yes, I know, and there is also this to which you turn a blinded eye then name call:

shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly; 1 Peter 5:2.

That's by Peter as well.

I also gave you another verse then conceded that sonship is another name for us as well. To that you name called in callow manner in a follow up reply.

What I conveyed is you need to think more toward 2 Timothy 2:15 and see the several names we are called in NT theology. Sonship and sheep are both valid and for some reason that provoked you to name call. Twice.
 
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