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I have to say that i admire families most.
Most i guess admire people that make lots of money or look good but the real heroes are those that choose to take the responsability of other souls unto themselves.
Unfortunatly so many havent figured out how to do it productively.
In many cases its not the parents fault,its our nature as individuals that does us in.
People that have families and live by Gods word are my heroes, i aspire to be like them...meh...maybe in the next life.
Most i guess admire people that make lots of money or look good but the real heroes are those that choose to take the responsability of other souls unto themselves.
Unfortunatly so many havent figured out how to do it productively.
In many cases its not the parents fault,its our nature as individuals that does us in.
People that have families and live by Gods word are my heroes, i aspire to be like them...meh...maybe in the next life.
For the TRUTH to be taught; which there is only one (not by force, but by intentional love). And the evil (false doctrines) not to have a ground to stand on in the minds or lives of those I love, including myself. Christian Passivity is as much a sin as evil indulgence.
It sounds as if you have yet to set up camp in your choices (Conclusions), and operate from that camp. But neutral is a choice; this is satan's subtle lie....that it is fair..
It sounds as if you have yet to set up camp in your choices (Conclusions), and operate from that camp. But neutral is a choice; this is satan's subtle lie....that it is fair..
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well i know God is right...
and Jesus is right
i understand when someone is decieved they may be under STRONG delusion as the bible says
but the Word is a sword
that can cutt through it
i completely agree with you
youre VERY wise considering your age
but...
i wouldnt be able to not try to use Gods word to influence someone i am guardian over when they are headed down the wrong path
i do feel like its wrong to force in a way thats like
hateful or dismissive
i think the scripture i posted IS more directed towards my own child
not an adopted child...
and it may be a much more complicated topic than i originally thought
and Jesus is right
i understand when someone is decieved they may be under STRONG delusion as the bible says
but the Word is a sword
that can cutt through it
i completely agree with you
youre VERY wise considering your age
but...
i wouldnt be able to not try to use Gods word to influence someone i am guardian over when they are headed down the wrong path
i do feel like its wrong to force in a way thats like
hateful or dismissive
i think the scripture i posted IS more directed towards my own child
not an adopted child...
and it may be a much more complicated topic than i originally thought
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i would expect them to
which is why earlier when we spoke on the last page
i mentioned i would need to study their beliefs
there are many issues with false doctrines
because they are lies
i suppose if i am to teach someone they believe a lie
maybe i would have to prove they are being lied to BEFORE they would agree with me that they were being lied to
unless God did with them what he did to me
and just smacked them with a spiritual brick
and showed them they were under delusion....
no one ever spoke the truth to me until God
and i just feel like it should be easy when you have the truth on your side and its your child who is supposed to respect you
but i see now what youre saying
these strong delusions cant be broken with force
it may take patience (which is a gift of the holy spirit)
plus truth
plus revealing the lies they have been fed
which is why earlier when we spoke on the last page
i mentioned i would need to study their beliefs
there are many issues with false doctrines
because they are lies
i suppose if i am to teach someone they believe a lie
maybe i would have to prove they are being lied to BEFORE they would agree with me that they were being lied to
unless God did with them what he did to me
and just smacked them with a spiritual brick
and showed them they were under delusion....
no one ever spoke the truth to me until God
and i just feel like it should be easy when you have the truth on your side and its your child who is supposed to respect you
but i see now what youre saying
these strong delusions cant be broken with force
it may take patience (which is a gift of the holy spirit)
plus truth
plus revealing the lies they have been fed
You don't have to justify anything to us, or me...But if God is the ultimate justifier, isn't what He says count - to you, as in what is and what isn't real? And what is and what isn't going to happen based on His promises and warnings? Yielding to God does not mean become passive in Christ, it means die to the right to yourself and come onto His camp, (Spiritual Truths), and become dependent on the fact they are real and all other things are not! If you are still searching so be it search away....
Nor do I assume you agree with it either. Your comments suggest a neutrality that in of itself is healthy. I see Scripture saying the opposite; that neutrality or passive living in Christ is not healthy, in fact it is dangerous.. We must all work out our own Salvation in counting the costs etc. But it never says to include evil with God's goodness and let people be influenced to which is best. That's just giving ground to the enemy, and Satan is God's enemy via Satan's rebellion, for He is anti- (God). I am not here to ruffle anything, I'm just learning more about you, as I am also letting you know more about me. And hopefully letting God be raised in the room intentionally as well.
Satan loves a passive Christian. He loves thinking and doing pretentious Christian work for us.
Satan loves a passive Christian. He loves thinking and doing pretentious Christian work for us.
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Can I add another element to this.
Adopting a child isn't like choosing a kitten from a pet store.
It takes months of preparation to make sure both child and parents are a
good fit. Plus a lot of time for them to get to know each other before the
adoption.
The older children will have a big say in the process.
Most responses on here don't seem to realise what is involved in adoption and
to be honest, it doesn't really matter what any of us think, the welfare of the
child is paramount. Adoption has to be done correctly, there is too much at stake.
I would say to the OP if you are thinking about adoption, then pray about this and
ask for God's guidance. Most of the responses on here are irrelevant as the the real
thing is much more involved and complex than the replies indicate.
Adopting a child isn't like choosing a kitten from a pet store.
It takes months of preparation to make sure both child and parents are a
good fit. Plus a lot of time for them to get to know each other before the
adoption.
The older children will have a big say in the process.
Most responses on here don't seem to realise what is involved in adoption and
to be honest, it doesn't really matter what any of us think, the welfare of the
child is paramount. Adoption has to be done correctly, there is too much at stake.
I would say to the OP if you are thinking about adoption, then pray about this and
ask for God's guidance. Most of the responses on here are irrelevant as the the real
thing is much more involved and complex than the replies indicate.