The holy spirit

[JIMBO43]

We all go through lession in life and trials,,,,,im sure youve been there.... Im sure youve been in an iccendent where your hurt has gone to far and punished someone to severly and you said why didnt i forgive them ?..


Or im sure youve wrongly accused someone (satans favorite trick).. And im sure when youve done this and seen how upset the person was you wished from then on in you will forgiv more easily and be more tollerant to peoples mistakes as not to hurt them.....

coz you dont know if they have been forgiven or God will work in them somehow..

So you say would God forgive them if they ask,,,,,,,,,,, so you say ok i will be like this from now on coz i never want to upset someone so bad in all my life... im sure youve all been there... or you have all seen the dividence that unforgivness can cause..


so you say ok i am going to be more forgiving...


Only for some reason you keep getting this thought of the person you are talking to has done wrong to you ?

Do you seee this people and you peter ?

not a directed question there mate just a an honest question...

Why is those thought of unforginess keep coming back when youve said i will forgive them,,, you know peter that many of the comments aimed at yu may jhave just come from denomic influence ,, so can you forgive all of them right now...


And then lets see if those thoughts come back.... coz they shouldnt do rally mate... coz in my book to forgive should also be to forget for most of the time at least ?

 

[JIMBO43]

And surely mate if you want to truly forget something you can... coz you wouldnt want a complex post traumatic stress disorder multiple like me mate...

 

[Ariel82]

You cant fight what you cant see they have an adavantage.. you can only pray you keep a hold of your emotions and develop a thicker skin to deal with all the hurtfull thoughts they put your way..

The only way to fight them is to be quiet alert and friendly coz i never saw any angely scare of demons for me.. i dont think God can as he would of by now i dont think God can destroy them only get rid of them for a short while.. i think the bible is missing knowledge on this and i dont think satan will never be destroyed coz I strongly feal God would have done this by now if he could.. i think we face a never ending battle between Good and evil for all eternity.. that is the reality..

I have and I believe God can get rid of them but they won't be gone for good until you are mature in your knowledge of scriptures and reject the lies they tell you.

For example Revelation shows that God will win.

We aren't called to "fight demons" but to pray and angels will fight them.

If you can't see demons, then you probably don't see angels either.

Most people don't. I had a bad childhood and I believe God sent angels to protect me often. However I also say demons tormenting people and I think it's better to not see those things.

Now I trust in God and His angels to protect me and those around me.

.Even if you can't see them, God has angels protecting you.

I don't know the exact science of how demons and angels communicate with us but I believe it's in visions and they enter our dreams.

When we pray God sends angels to get rid or,the demons, but we still have a choice: believe the lie or pray, read the Bible and reject the lie for God's truth.

Do you mind if we pray?

 

[Ariel82]

And surely mate if you want to truly forget something you can... coz you wouldnt want a complex post traumatic stress disorder multiple like me mate...

Are you seeing a counselor for that?

 

[samuel23]

I have seen the same things as you they are sneeky verry sneaky..

However lets look at a few things here you say being attacked is not possession of any sort. ?

Ok did you grant the demon permission to attack you ? no

Did God grant that demon permisison ? no

How on earth could that demon communicate with you ? when you cant see it ?

How on earth does that demons voice get into your mind ? yet no one else can hear it only you..

Conclussion there has to be some sort of mind d.n.a encoding going on some sort of d.n.a hearing receptor coding going on..

This is possession what ever way you look at it... your thoughts have been taking captive....

It may be temporalily but still its invasion... its unpermmited from you and its theft of your own thought proccess to make you think its you your self who is thinkng the thoughts the demons are making you think.

I was playing that song yesterday oceans i upset my demons they said do i have to listen to this rubish i know it wasnt my thought and theres been many more incidents like this.. but now i know..

However many do not..

Demons are certainly at work, however we also have a flesh nature that is simply not interested in the things of God.

 

[Ariel82]

I think the reality is one demon creates another demon and so demons will be around for ever..

Or one demons createas an evil spirit.. meaning us they will turn someones spirit evil via mind control..

niggling away at you each day until you act out with an evil nature.. Your now walking with them and not the Good spirits.. this is the battle.. learning to keep a hold of emotions when there making you rage is not easy but you can do it..

Demons don't control your mind...they are like to torture people but you have more power than they do.

You need to pray and read the Bible and believe that God really loves you and has given you the power to overcome these spiritual forces.

Also I think you should talk to a counselor about your PTSD.

Some of what you are experiencing might be that and not demons.

 

[JIMBO43]

I have and I believe God can get rid of them but they won't be gone for good until you are mature in your knowledge of scriptures and reject the lies they tell you.

For example Revelation shows that God will win.

Hi angel ill look at the rest in the minute but for now ok lets say that revalation is God spoken..

you miss the fact that angels fell that where suppose to be heavenly citizens..

They say that spirits can neve be killed just eternally bound or imprisoned... has it ever occured to you that spirits also have free will..

and that they could rebell agianst God even in the new world ?

 

[Ariel82]

Hi angel ill look at the rest in the minute but for now ok lets say that revalation is God spoken..

you miss the fact that angels fell that where suppose to be heavenly citizens..

They say that spiroits can neve be killed just eternally bound or imprisoned... has it ever occured to that spirits also have free will..

and that they could rebell agianst God even in the new world ?

Definitely they have free will but the eternal fire....they can't escape from it.

 

[Ariel82]

We all go through lession in life and trials,,,,,im sure youve been there.... Im sure youve been in an iccendent where your hurt has gone to far and punished someone to severly and you said why didnt i forgive them ?..


Or im sure youve wrongly accused someone (satans favorite trick).. And im sure when youve done this and seen how upset the person was you wished from then on in you will forgiv more easily and be more tollerant to peoples mistakes as not to hurt them.....

coz you dont know if they have been forgiven or God will work in them somehow..

So you say would God forgive them if they ask,,,,,,,,,,, so you say ok i will be like this from now on coz i never want to upset someone so bad in all my life... im sure youve all been there... or you have all seen the dividence that unforgivness can cause..


so you say ok i am going to be more forgiving...


Only for some reason you keep getting this thought of the person you are talking to has done wrong to you ?

Do you seee this people and you peter ?

not a directed question there mate just a an honest question...

Why is those thought of unforginess keep coming back when youve said i will forgive them,,, you know peter that many of the comments aimed at yu may jhave just come from denomic influence ,, so can you forgive all of them right now...


And then lets see if those thoughts come back.... coz they shouldnt do rally mate... coz in my book to forgive should also be to forget for most of the time at least ?

Some people I have to confront and talk to before i can really forgive them. It hard to forgive if they keep hurting you and sometimes we have to get out of toxic relationships. God doesn't call for us to be abused and beat up upon.

He loves us more than that.

Sometimes I have to pray with the person before I really feel that i have forgiven them.

I admit they have done wrong, but then think of all my sins and realize that if God can forgive me...I need to learn to forgive them.

With some people it's really really hard.

 

[JIMBO43]

I have and I believe God can get rid of them but they won't be gone for good until you are mature in your knowledge of scriptures and reject the lies they tell you.

For example Revelation shows that God will win.

We aren't called to "fight demons" but to pray and angels will fight them.

If you can't see demons, then you probably don't see angels either.

Most people don't. I had a bad childhood and I believe God sent angels to protect me often. However I also say demons tormenting people and I think it's better to not see those things.

Now I trust in God and His angels to protect me and those around me.

.Even if you can't see them, God has angels protecting you.

I don't know the exact science of how demons and angels communicate with us but I believe it's in visions and they enter our dreams.

When we pray God sends angels to get rid or,the demons, but we still have a choice: believe the lie or pray, read the Bible and reject the lie for God's truth.

Do you mind if we pray?

I did get visted by the spirit of christmas once like in the film stooge.... it was some sort of small opauge cloud to be exact..

it was a presence that was hanging over me that shot out of the window which was open..

Im not sure what it was but i went and bought a super sized turkey lol..


I dont know what it was but anyway you get my drift.... I have been visted by spiritsbad ones and i never seen one good but at the time i did think it was a good one... tricked me..

anyway you dont know for sure if the good one you seen was as the bible describes a demon pretending to be an angel of light coz that where they once where..

 

[JIMBO43]

So in other words demons will still act like one of Gods hoping for forgivness

 

[JIMBO43]

Or they will still act like one of Gods forgetting they have been kicked ?

 

[Ariel82]

2 kings 6
15When the servant of the man of God rose early in the morning and went out, behold, an army with horses and chariots was all around the city. And the servant said, “Alas, my master! What shall we do?” 16He said, “Do not be afraid, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.” 17Then Elisha prayed and said, “O LORD, please open his eyes that he may see.” So the LORD opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw, and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.

 

[JIMBO43]

Demons are certainly at work, however we also have a flesh nature that is simply not interested in the things of God.

Im not that closed suitcase you cant close sorry,, and put a lid on it...

The mind never sleaps not flesh and from The spirit of life..

 

[Ariel82]

So in other words demons will still act like one of Gods hoping for forgivness

They don't want forgiveness they want to be worshiped and obeyed as "gods".

Got to go. Visiting my family this week and kids out for summer break.

 

[JIMBO43]

2 kings 6
15When the servant of the man of God rose early in the morning and went out, behold, an army with horses and chariots was all around the city. And the servant said, “Alas, my master! What shall we do?” 16He said, “Do not be afraid, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.” 17Then Elisha prayed and said, “O LORD, please open his eyes that he may see.” So the LORD opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw, and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.

Yes the angels will fight and yes the angels and arc angels are warriors to..

But oh how the mighty have fallen.(bible) . who where once mighty in a diffrent realm.... but are now mighty in ours..

The battle will laways be needed reality ... I pray for you to keep a hold of your emotion right now lol

 

[JIMBO43]

They don't want forgiveness they want to be worshiped and obeyed as "gods".

Got to go. Visiting my family this week and kids out for summer break.

I did say or they forget they are evil and act good for a moment...???

 

[JIMBO43]

lol goodbye angel aerial

 

[Stephen63]

[video=youtube;eLqTZ07ja7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLqTZ07ja7g[/video]

You might ought to take a really good look at the center of that video pic..... jus' sayin'

 

[JIMBO43]

You might ought to take a really good look at the center of that video pic..... jus' sayin'

i saw it befor and saw the isrealites beeing led out of egypt by moses. what do you see the ?