Why do we believe the Bible is inerrant?

[Hungry]

I think you misunderstand my position. I believe that Yahweh is Supreme and His Son Yeshua is the Messiah. He is the risen Lord and Savior. We humans were created to serve a purpose here on earth, as was everything created. We stepped out of our purpose and caused a ripple effect in creation. This is an imbalance in nature, the curse. The Heavenly Father desires us to be restored to Him. If we surrender our wills to His purpose and accept Him as Lord in this life then at the resurrection we will be granted new bodies and an inheritance in Christ's Kingdom, where He will reign.

The part that seems to be missing in the Bible is that this appears to be a re-creation. From archeology we see that civilizations existed before this current one, even before the Garden account. From what I have gathered it may appear that Greek Mythology may not be entirely fabricated. When you take into account everything it almost paints a picture that gods or heavenly people coexisted with man, every so often the world suffers a catastrophic event that may devastate the entire face of the planet, and ultimately that event is described in Revelations. That will be the "end of the age." Then after that event in the turmoil, the Antichrist sets up his government.

Its not about special powers or secret knowledge, it's a frequency like a radio signal that God communicates with His Body (us) with. Guilt disrupts our ability to receive transmission. That's why we need forgiveness. The knowledge of good and evil, imparts guilt. That's why we need to forgive others. It's not new age, it's just recognizable technology. When we surrender our will, and pour out ourselves it comes in clear. God is not a token to me, He is my everything.

Many Christians will be surprised at the end of this age because it will be more like "Independance Day" meets "Clash of the Titans.

 

[Hungry]

this is terribly dangerous dont fall for this bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go ask the jews who know hebrew they say elohim and YHWH is alll the same its just different titles of the same God................ He is also called El-Shaddai that doesn't mean its new or different deity what you are saying here is very close to gnosticism and its one of the earliest heresies you can read all church fathers down the line starting from st John were fighting against it read what Origen wrote and Irenaus etc..........

Elohim is plural for El. El just means god, or heavenly being, like an angel is an el with a message.

 

[Muzungu256]

very carnal interpretation...................... so now you say you are a polytheist???????????????? i think there is nothing to be done here........................

 

[samuel23]

Did God move Paul to tell Timothy to not drink water but take a little wine for the sake of his stomach? I believe those were good words said by a man of God to a friend, however I see no reason to believe that such a statement was directly by God and therefore becomes a doctrine. I actually knew of a Christian girl who drink alcohol and used that scripture as proof that God approved of what she was doing.

 

[Hungry]

very carnal interpretation...................... so now you say you are a polytheist???????????????? i think there is nothing to be done here........................

Im telling you what the translations mean. I believe what we call fallen angels, others called gods. I believe our Heavenly Father is Supreme, but it doesn't mean that there are no other heavenly beings. If that makes me a polytheist then so was Paul (Eph 6:12).

 

[Muzungu256]

Im telling you what the translations mean. I believe what we call fallen angels, others called gods. I believe our Heavenly Father is Supreme, but it doesn't mean that there are no other heavenly beings. If that makes me a polytheist then so was Paul (Eph 6:12).

but you said greek mythology is not all fiction....................

 

[dcontroversal]

but you said greek mythology is not all fiction....................

A interesting concept to consider...obviously there is only ONE true GOD, the GOD of heaven...having said that....

Jesus said to the church in Pergamos in Revelation that he knew they dwelt where the SEAT of SATAN was located.......Satan is called the god of this world (age)

What was located in Pergamos when Revelation was written........??

The throne of Zeus...............History seems to support Satan continually attempting to be worshipped in a man as god and it being hindered by God as it was not yet time yet......

Horus in Egypt, is Bel is Assyria, is Marduke in Babylon, is Merodach in Persia, is Jupiter in Greece, is Zeus in Rome, is Allah at the end of the age and in my view, based upon study, they were ALL SATAN attempting to be worshipped as a god in a man by men........

 

[Hungry]

but you said greek mythology is not all fiction....................

I'm saying that in Genesis 6 it states that the sons of Elohim came down and produced offspring with the daughters of men, which produced mighty men. If Elohim means "gods" and not Yahweh then it describes exactly what happened in Greek Mythology. In Greek Mythology there were giants, in the Bible there are giants. The same stories are in every culture around the world.

 

[PrynceNY]

God is perfect and as it says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 - All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. God is very serious about his word and even forewarns people not to add or take away from it. Otherwise they will be judged.

 

[Hungry]

God is perfect and as it says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 - All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. God is very serious about his word and even forewarns people not to add or take away from it. Otherwise they will be judged.

That's kind of my point. Saying that they will be punished doesn't mean that they won't change it. It almost implies they will. The only Scripture that Paul could comment on is the one as accepted at the time. Who is to say the canon is complete, or not selected to purposely drive a predetermined mindset? I just heard something yesterday that got me thinking. Everybody thinks that their religion is the right one. Most believe that their text is divinely inspired.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Words of Paul;

2 Timothy 3:15-17:

2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.


I believe Paul was speaking of the Old Testament. No where does he ever claim that his words to be God Breathed or inerrant, nor any other NT writer (save John in the book of Revelations). I don't necessary believe or care if the NT is God breathed or not. Nor does it bother if others believe it is. However, I do believe the NT to be true. That said, I believe the words of Jesus to be God breathed of course.

You don't care if the NT is God-breathed? Srsly? If its not inspired, how can we be assured its the truth?

Wow! Don't care if its God-breathed or not. Never can I say "Welp, I've heard it all now." Because, if I do, doozies like this come along.

 

[SovereignGrace]

This reeks of ignorance......ALL is ALL and Paul himself states clearly that he was taught by direct revelation from Jesus.....

It doesn't reek of ignorance...it IS ignorance.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Did God move Paul to tell Timothy to not drink water but take a little wine for the sake of his stomach? I believe those were good words said by a man of God to a friend, however I see no reason to believe that such a statement was directly by God and therefore becomes a doctrine. I actually knew of a Christian girl who drink alcohol and used that scripture as proof that God approved of what she was doing.

Wine does have medicinal value. Everything Paul penned was God-breathed. Including drinking wine for one's stomach.

 

[preacher4truth]

Im telling you what the translations mean. I believe what we call fallen angels, others called gods. I believe our Heavenly Father is Supreme, but it doesn't mean that there are no other heavenly beings. If that makes me a polytheist then so was Paul (Eph 6:12).

Goodness sake you're ate up with heresy. Ephesians 6:12 teaches no such thing, nor are you correct with your usage of Elohim.

 

[dcontroversal]

Wine does have medicinal value. Everything Paul penned was God-breathed. Including drinking wine for one's stomach.

It also makes the heart merry HAHAH

 

[NoNameMcgee]

:Why do we believe the Bible is inerrant?:

because its obvious if you actually read it

we test spirits

we test fruit

if youre not blind the answer to this is easy to see...

i almost just posted scripture (sound doctrine)

but if someone was arguing against it being legit

maybe a mans understanding is more to your liking

 

[Laish]

Words of Paul;

2 Timothy 3:15-17:

2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.


I believe Paul was speaking of the Old Testament. No where does he ever claim that his words to be God Breathed or inerrant, nor any other NT writer (save John in the book of Revelations). I don't necessary believe or care if the NT is God breathed or not. Nor does it bother if others believe it is. However, I do believe the NT to be true. That said, I believe the words of Jesus to be God breathed of course.

Peter thought that Paul's writings were scripture.
2nd Peter 3:“14 h Therefore, beloved, since you are waiting for these, be diligent to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace. 15 And count l the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.”
Blessings
Bill

 

[SovereignGrace]

Im telling you what the translations mean. I believe what we call fallen angels, others called gods. I believe our Heavenly Father is Supreme, but it doesn't mean that there are no other heavenly beings. If that makes me a polytheist then so was Paul (Eph 6:12).

Nope, it doesn't make you a polytheist. It makes you a heretic.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Peter thought that Paul's writings were scripture.
2nd Peter 3:“14 h Therefore, beloved, since you are waiting for these, be diligent to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace. 15 And count l the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.”
Blessings
Bill

 

[preacher4truth]

I'm quite perplexed about the seemingly increasing number of these self-proclaimed spiritual mavericks that are popping up: They don't attend church, they don't "follow men," they hold to many false doctrines, "the Holy Spirit" teaches them everything they know.

Let's examine this for a second. The reason they don't attend church is due to "error" typically, yet they hold to so many errors no true church would allow them to join. They are heretical at worst and heterodox at best, but in reality they are both at the same time in their false teachings.

These speak with in a loathing manner about the body of Christ. Hey, going use candor here -- if you hate your brothers, you aren't saved. I don't know how much Bible you know or use. Yes, when talking about how they loathe the body of Christ, the church, we know the church is the people. That is what they hate, better yet, these are who they hate. These people need to be rebuked sharply and ignored by those who follow Christ. Don't lend them an ear. How many times have they been warned? Titus 3:10?

These also disagree with God's mandate that He gifted men to lead the church, and how we should respect them accordingly &c: Ephesians 4:11ff; 1 Thessalonians 5:12-13; Hebrews 13:17; 1 Timothy 5:17; Acts 20:28; Romans 12:8; 2 Timothy 4:1ff.

But they do not respect them. These men of God also write great books, commentaries, hold conferences, lecture, preach &c all to our advantage -- that is why God sent them and ordained them. Learning from other godly men; pastors, teachers &c is not "following men." That is only said in attempt to deride others as they think it exalts themselves in a false humility.

To leave the church and become a loner is to be following men; because you're following yourself. Stop blaming it on God. God doesn't lead people away from His church and then train them in false doctrine that opposes orthodoxy along the way. To believe He does so is to be thoroughly deceived.