Why do we believe the Bible is inerrant?
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You say that everybody thinks that their religion is the right one and most believe their text is divinely inspired.
That is true but it doesn't make it true.
With regard to other religions, let's say Mohammed didn't walk the earth or Buddha and the others would thier religion still stand.
I would say yes it would because every religion that exists beleives there is a God/s.
Islam believes in one god, one whom we must placate in the hope that they may be saved, the others believe we are our own god and must do good in this life in order to come back in the next life as a better person.
So while they have texts from the likes of Mohammed and Buddha and alike to me they are divinely inspired and the reason being the God they believe has not come to earth. They look up to a God that has never been seen.
With regard to Christianity if we take Jesus out of the equation, if he never came to earth then the truth is Christianity would collapse, its whole foundation would be false, we may as well walk in other religions and hope we get the right one.
God himself came in the flesh in Jesus.
He said "I am the way to God and their is no other way, if you have seen me you have seen the Father"
No other religious leader/figure has made that claim, and if they have they haven't backed it up like Jesus did, with miracles, forgiving sins, and dying for sins and then rising again.
So we have the bible, the NT written by people, simple people, fishermen, hot headed people, fearful people, persecutors of Jesus.
When Jesus went back to the Father the Holy Spirit came.
The NT other than Paul actually saw God in the flesh. Who came down to earth.
They wrote these down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, who can only testify about God and Jesus.
The original manuscripts were divinely inspired, the bible we have today is based on those original manuscripts.
There may be slight differences between translations but the truth is they all point to one thing.
Salvation and reconciliation to the one and only God is through Jesus.
Christianity is not about what we can do for Jesus but what Jesus has done for us.
That is true but it doesn't make it true.
With regard to other religions, let's say Mohammed didn't walk the earth or Buddha and the others would thier religion still stand.
I would say yes it would because every religion that exists beleives there is a God/s.
Islam believes in one god, one whom we must placate in the hope that they may be saved, the others believe we are our own god and must do good in this life in order to come back in the next life as a better person.
So while they have texts from the likes of Mohammed and Buddha and alike to me they are divinely inspired and the reason being the God they believe has not come to earth. They look up to a God that has never been seen.
With regard to Christianity if we take Jesus out of the equation, if he never came to earth then the truth is Christianity would collapse, its whole foundation would be false, we may as well walk in other religions and hope we get the right one.
God himself came in the flesh in Jesus.
He said "I am the way to God and their is no other way, if you have seen me you have seen the Father"
No other religious leader/figure has made that claim, and if they have they haven't backed it up like Jesus did, with miracles, forgiving sins, and dying for sins and then rising again.
So we have the bible, the NT written by people, simple people, fishermen, hot headed people, fearful people, persecutors of Jesus.
When Jesus went back to the Father the Holy Spirit came.
The NT other than Paul actually saw God in the flesh. Who came down to earth.
They wrote these down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, who can only testify about God and Jesus.
The original manuscripts were divinely inspired, the bible we have today is based on those original manuscripts.
There may be slight differences between translations but the truth is they all point to one thing.
Salvation and reconciliation to the one and only God is through Jesus.
Christianity is not about what we can do for Jesus but what Jesus has done for us.
They talk about their disdain for church as if it is a badge of honor.
If someone ever said something bad about a man's wife, well, they may get their just due then and there.
But these aren't afraid to speak ill of the Bride of Christ. And they are convinced of their alleged superior spirituality. Very dangerous ground and they cannot even sense it.
If someone ever said something bad about a man's wife, well, they may get their just due then and there.
But these aren't afraid to speak ill of the Bride of Christ. And they are convinced of their alleged superior spirituality. Very dangerous ground and they cannot even sense it.
It is what you say it is, because you say it is, has no validation in and of itself. I know I'm not a heretic because I have experienced rebirth. My saying so doesn't convince you. I know Christ, I spent years seeking Him. He is my Master and Son of the Almighty God. I lay down my life for Him. If I am wrong why would He not correct me. If you have proof that Elohim is not the plural form of el you haven't displayed it. Instead of correcting, and rebuking me with God breathed Scripture you name call and condemn. Who do you think the powers of evil in the heavenly places are? If I am incorrect I wish to know. If John the Baptist was the greatest of all men until Christ, what makes the new man or new creation that we have become more special than he. Why was the curtain torn separating the Holy of holies? I will tell you. Because we believe that Christ's sacrifice was enough to wash away our sin and guilt. It opens up communication with God. If I pray to Him in faith and ask for wisdom as told by James, why would He confuse me with lies?
Here's an example of how bad theology is in our churches...
At church today, ppl were testifying about what God has done for them. This is always a good thing to do. But to turn around and undermine His word while boasting about Him is weird. One Sister, and she's a wonderful lady who has been a nurse and now a Special Ed teacher, so she's very educated, said that the Christ died for us but He didn't have to. He could have called for legions of angels to come to His rescue. Talk about having an inward facepalm. I wanted to take and bury my face in both palms. If the Christ could have done that, the OT becomes null and void, as all OT prophecies, starting with Genesis 3:15, become lies, God is no longer immutable.
I mentioned this to my pastor after church and he agreed. I said ppl really need to study their theology before making a statement like that.
But unless we truly get a grasp on what the bible avers, KJVO, this thread topic, run rampant. Liberal theology is killing our churches.
At church today, ppl were testifying about what God has done for them. This is always a good thing to do. But to turn around and undermine His word while boasting about Him is weird. One Sister, and she's a wonderful lady who has been a nurse and now a Special Ed teacher, so she's very educated, said that the Christ died for us but He didn't have to. He could have called for legions of angels to come to His rescue. Talk about having an inward facepalm. I wanted to take and bury my face in both palms. If the Christ could have done that, the OT becomes null and void, as all OT prophecies, starting with Genesis 3:15, become lies, God is no longer immutable.
I mentioned this to my pastor after church and he agreed. I said ppl really need to study their theology before making a statement like that.
But unless we truly get a grasp on what the bible avers, KJVO, this thread topic, run rampant. Liberal theology is killing our churches.
I believe in the text, just not in some of the interpretation. I never said it was heresy, in fact I stated that already. This is my point; if it's not in the Bible then some people just treat it like crap. What was the point of Christ opening up dialogue with God if He was going to take a handful of prophets following His resurrection to give us all we needed to know? Are you telling me that although one of the gifts of the Spirit is prophecy but we aren't supposed to believe it unless it is already documented in text written hundreds of years ago?
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is but exhorting one another, and so much the more as ye see the day approaching....<----those who forsake...count the blood of Jesus a common ordinary base thing and trample under foot the Son of God....
He loved his church and GAVE Himself for it...........
He loved his church and GAVE Himself for it...........
The Hebrew word for God, אֱלֹהִים (’ĕlōhîm), is indeed a masculine plural noun. However, it is a plural noun expressing superiority over all other gods. The Hebrew word יְהֹוָה is a tetragrammaton transliterated as YHWH or JHVH and pronounced as Yahweh or Jehovah. The Jewish people have, for well over two millennia, believed that this name is too sacred to be pronounced, or used in written form unnecessarily. Therefore, the word אֲדֹנָי (Adonai) meaning Lord is substituted.
In the KJV, and in the RV, RSV, NRSV and some other translations, the difference between יְהֹוָה and אֲדֹנָ is indicated by using the word LORD in all capital letters when in the Hebrew text the word is יְהֹוָה. The ASV, however, uses ‘Jehovah’ to express the tetragrammaton, and ‘God’ to express the Hebrew אֱלֹהִים. Thus we read in the ASV,
Gen. 6:1. And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born unto them,
2. that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose.
3. And Jehovah said, My spirit shall not strive with man for ever, for that he also is flesh: yet shall his days be a hundred and twenty years.
The Jewish people knew nothing of Greek Mythology and were not influenced by it. They may have been influenced, however, by ancient literature in other Semitic languages such as Akkadian.
In the KJV, and in the RV, RSV, NRSV and some other translations, the difference between יְהֹוָה and אֲדֹנָ is indicated by using the word LORD in all capital letters when in the Hebrew text the word is יְהֹוָה. The ASV, however, uses ‘Jehovah’ to express the tetragrammaton, and ‘God’ to express the Hebrew אֱלֹהִים. Thus we read in the ASV,
Gen. 6:1. And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born unto them,
2. that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose.
3. And Jehovah said, My spirit shall not strive with man for ever, for that he also is flesh: yet shall his days be a hundred and twenty years.
The Jewish people knew nothing of Greek Mythology and were not influenced by it. They may have been influenced, however, by ancient literature in other Semitic languages such as Akkadian.
Hi Hungry.
I don't think and can't see what I have said that makes you think what you said was heresy. If so let me know and I will try to clarify.
I was just responding to your post about how other religions believe the texts they have are divinely expired and why I don't think they are.
I believe in text myself and not necessarily the interpretation of it.
I myself have looked at the texts from where we get the interpretation, mainly from difficult passages we see in the bible.
Lets look at the following
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
Romans 8:1
Life in the Spirit
There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Now that's a big difference.
Anyway food for thought.
But as I said I can't see how my response to your post was saying you saying it was heresy but let me know if I did.
I don't think and can't see what I have said that makes you think what you said was heresy. If so let me know and I will try to clarify.
I was just responding to your post about how other religions believe the texts they have are divinely expired and why I don't think they are.
I believe in text myself and not necessarily the interpretation of it.
I myself have looked at the texts from where we get the interpretation, mainly from difficult passages we see in the bible.
Lets look at the following
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
Romans 8:1
Life in the Spirit
There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Now that's a big difference.
Anyway food for thought.
But as I said I can't see how my response to your post was saying you saying it was heresy but let me know if I did.
J
I'll keep it simple,"faith is the evidence of things not seen" "there is none perfect no not one",so yeah how God's word is written is not perfect because it was written through God but still in a human stand point for if it was written,"perfectly" then we most likely wouldn't understand it,it's not that God's word is flawed,it is perfect,for it is written"as for God's way,his way is perfect" and Jesus is"the way the truth and the light" and "none come to the father except through the son" as well as that"in the beginning was the word and the word was God" so in truth the word is perfect and unflawed,for the bible is only one part of God's word,the rest you can learn through God's holy spirit,otherwise you'll never truly"learn" God's "whole"word!
I know that the Bible is the inspired word of God. When I take one of the commonly accepted versions, and with the help of the Holy Spirit, read it from cover to cover, I can come to no other conclusion.
If you want to spend your time trying to convince others that they are reading from the wrong version, you will miss the entire message that God has for you. The next time you want to criticize your brothers version, take a copy of his version into your prayer closet, and ask God to reveal his word to you, then read it. When you finish reading it, you will find that the entire Gospel of Christ has been revealed to you.
The point. God's word has his message for each of us. It's up to us to seek that message.
If you want to spend your time trying to convince others that they are reading from the wrong version, you will miss the entire message that God has for you. The next time you want to criticize your brothers version, take a copy of his version into your prayer closet, and ask God to reveal his word to you, then read it. When you finish reading it, you will find that the entire Gospel of Christ has been revealed to you.
The point. God's word has his message for each of us. It's up to us to seek that message.