Why Were the Jewish Feasts, Gods Feasts, Removed from Christianity.

[JaumeJ]

I thank God my post just previous to yours latest got posted before yours.

 

[miknik5]

Let's see. You invited me to start listing "my works." Well, I do have many "orks" under my spiritual belt, and when it is appropriate I do mention them.

Now, no work is mine, not when the Holy Spirit has acted using me as a vessel. So yo will never have any works "listed by me" that are mine. All glory is to God in Jesus Christ. It could be not other way.

When I have healed, do you honestly believe I healed anyone? It was the Holy Spirit working through me.

When I have experienced the gift of knowledge for the benefit of the person I was being used to share with, do you think I aqm psychic? Not by a long shot, but the Holy Spirit has given me what to say.,

So it is with all the brethren who avail themselves to God to be used for His works. I have known this since I first was entred into b the Holy Spirit, and it always surpises me so many brothers and sisters will speak as thoguh any person possessing any of the gifts thinks he is working the miracles.

God is good all of the time.......all of the time. All glory to God for without Him there is nothing.

Let's see sir

you wanted to justify that we could and should

 

[miknik5]

I thank God my post just previous to yours latest got posted before yours.

Yes

GOD is fighting against us


(I hope you understand that I am being sarcastic)

 

[miknik5]

In defense of sharing the glory of God in His children's deeds (gven them by the Father), Paul would not only talk about his experiences, he would list them in his letters..... I believe it is edifying to share what God has given us in His miraculous way.

Sir?

you jumped into the conversation between me and resurrection33

i never asked you to list anything for me

Nut I was continuing a conversation with resurrection33 telling him to be careful about listing his most "righteous works"

 

[miknik5]

Now I am addressing you


you are free to do what you want
You don't owe me anything and I don't owe you anything

you are free to do what you want
and I am free to do what I want

 

[miknik5]

I'm sorry Jaume but I believe what I do in private HE sees and that is sufficient

i won't be running around announcing my works

 

[JaumeJ]

If I were to give alms, I do not broadcast it, but when God works a miracle through anyone, it should be known, for it is His work, not the vessels.

What you say is true, we should never boast for what we do, but again, we just share what God has used us for in the realm os his miracles. There is a big difference.

I believe your post on being spiritually mended and then physically healed are worthy of boasting of God about, and sharing with all as your testimony.

There is a time for everything and there is a time for nothing at all.......God bless you. Always broadcase what God does through you.......the glory is His, never yours.......but I think you already knew that.

 

[miknik5]

If I were to give alms, I do not broadcast it, but when God works a miracle through anyone, it should be known, for it is His work, not the vessels.

What you say is true, we should never boast for what we do, but again, we just share what God has used us for in the realm os his miracles. There is a big difference.

I believe your post on being spiritually mended and then physically healed are worthy of boasting of God about, and sharing with all as your testimony.

There is a time for everything and there is a time for nothing at all.......God bless you. Always broadcase what God does through you.......the glory is His, never yours.......but I think you already knew that.

Thank you, Jaume

i was very saddened by our misunderstanding

Thank you for being the peacemaker

you are older (and wiser) than me but I have learned some things as well and what you have done by reaching out towards reconciliation i was trying to put together some sort of reconciling response to you as well

but I couldn't because i knew we were "out of joint" so what I said would have sounded hypocritical when I told you that what I have learned is this:


be at peace with all men as much as it is in your ability to do so
(Because it was obvious that we weren't)

thank you for your restoring words

may GOD bless you too

 

[Desertsrose]

All the feast and Holy days were written for the Israelite while they were in the desert for forty years. no other nation had heard of these feast and holy days. there were some outsiders in the camp also known as strangers, and they were not allowed to participate in any, only the Israelites. these were not just for the Jews, but all Israelites. The gentile were only to hear the gospel Of Jesus Christ and believe on his name and be saved. Jesus never said they had to follow any of theses.

Hi Gabriel,

The stranger if he lived among the Israelites had to be circumcised and if they were circumcised, they did celebrate everything. Whatever feasts, sacrifices, holy convocations, etc they did as well. When they joined themselves to the nation, they did just as the Israelites did. They were considered Jewish.

It's a beautiful picture of us joining the Jews (to the Jew first and then to the Gentiles). The New Covenant was made with the nation of Israel and we join in as Gentiles to all the promises of God that were made to them. Jews are the natural branch, as Gentiles we're grafted in.

 

[Desertsrose]

I agree. I was thinking the same thing.

I think legalism is the issue. So many fear getting tangled up in that messy web, so they just prefer to steer clear. Some will even accuse others of observing something as a necessary requirement when they are only doing it out of remembrance.

I personally see nothing wrong with observing the feasts, if this is what the person chooses to do, just so long as they remember that observing them is not a requirement, rather their focus should be on Jesus as fulfilling these various feasts. Maybe they could even modify by focusing on the NT scriptures that unite with the OT ones, concerning these specific feasts?

There aren't any Jewish people in my family (just long distant ones), but I would have no issue observing these feasts, just that I would always be acknowledging Jesus in them. I would also want my faith known so I didn't mislead anyone into thinking I was Jewish or supported the Jewish rejection of Jesus & the NT scriptures.

The ones in red are not yet fulfilled.


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1) Passover (Leviticus 23:5) – Pointed to the Messiah as our Passover lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) whose blood would be shed for our sins. Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation for the Passover at the same hour that the lambs were being slaughtered for the Passover meal that evening (John 19:14).

2) Unleavened Bread (Leviticus 23:6) – Pointed to the Messiah's sinless life (as leaven is a picture of sin in the Bible), making Him the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' body was in the grave during the first days of this feast, like a kernel of wheat planted and waiting to burst forth as the bread of life.

3) First Fruits (Leviticus 23:10) – Pointed to the Messiah's resurrection as the first fruits of the righteous. Jesus was resurrected on this very day, which is one of the reasons that Paul refers to him in 1 Corinthians 15:20 as the "first fruits from the dead."

4) Weeks or Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16) – Occurred fifty days after the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and pointed to the great harvest of souls and the gift of the Holy Spirit for both Jew and Gentile, who would be brought into the kingdom of God during the Church Age (see Acts 2). The Church was actually established on this day when God poured out His Holy Spirit and 3,000 Jews responded to Peter's great sermon and his first proclamation of the gospel.

5) Trumpets (Leviticus 23:24) – The first of the fall feasts. Many believe this day points to the Rapture of the Church when the Messiah Jesus will appear in the heavens as He comes for His bride, the Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing of a loud trumpet (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:52).

6) Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:27) – Many believe this prophetically points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He will return to earth. That will be the Day of Atonement for the Jewish remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10 and Romans 11:1-6, 25-36).

7) Tabernacles or Booths (Leviticus 23:34) – Many scholars believe that this feast day points to the Lord's promise that He will once again “tabernacle” with His people when He returns to reign over all the world (Micah 4:1-7).

Hi Katy,

I agree, we are free to celebrate, and we are free not to celebrate, but we're not to allow the feast days to become a yoke of slavery whereby we have to or must celebrate them as a requirement for salvation.

 

[resurrection33]

Do you think I'm twiddling my thumbs? Are you waiting for me to announce my works?

thsts why I said you go first

The Lord has plans for us. He has things he wants us to do.

 

[Denadii]

Okay

How do you justify yourself before GOD when by HIS SPIRIT it is declsted that HE has bound all in disobedience

Say!!! What language do you speak?

 

[Denadii]

Back in South Africa I knew many Messianic Christians (Jews who had become born-again).
It was always a huge, and very educational, privilege, to be invited to just share an evening meal with them on a Friday night never mind one of the feasts!
They understood Jesus Christ in everything they did at these times - every action and every part of the meal had significance!

Fantastic people and fantastic the way that they could bring the OT and NT together!
I miss those friends a lot!

They also used these opportunities to witness to their Jewish friends and family how Jesus Christ is represented in the very things they had been doing for decades.
Incredibly powerful stuff to witness and participate in!

Wow. I think this is the first time you've said something we can actually agree on! I'm proud of you.

 

[Denadii]

The law of Christ, not the Mosaic Law.

Who gave the Mosaic Law? Even that was based on Love. Matt 22:36-40 is the shortened version, if I may put it that way

As I said...All of the Mosaic law was based on these two laws. Want proof? Read it for yourself. Matt 22:36-40

 

[Grandpa]

Who gave the Mosaic Law? Even that was based on Love. Matt 22:36-40 is the shortened version, if I may put it that way

As I said...All of the Mosaic law was based on these two laws. Want proof? Read it for yourself. Matt 22:36-40

If perfection were by the levitical law what further need was there for a priest to rise after the order of Melchisidec and not be called after the order of Aaron?

 

[Denadii]

If perfection were by the levitical law what further need was there for a priest to rise after the order of Melchisidec and not be called after the order of Aaron?

Hey Grandpa What I'm saying is that the entire law is based on Matt 22:36-40 The law of love. That is the foundation of all the Mosaic law. Its not complicated except by some church doctrine And this being the case, keeping the two laws of love, results in our keeping all of the Mosaic law.

 

[miknik5]

The Lord has plans for us. He has things he wants us to do.

Yes HE does. And since HE alone is the HEAD of HIS BODY, HE can direct the "members" of HIS BODY as HE chooses for the ONE PURPOSE:

HIS GLORY and the building up of HIS BODY

 

[stonesoffire]

We are called to be priests unto the Lord too, which means we "minister" unto Him. That's worship..loving the Lord thy God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. Then loving others as He has loved us. A life of forgiving...we all have grievances and things that hurt us in many ways...daily.

This is how we keep the law. I just said it simplistically...there's much more to ministering to Him..and then ministering to others.

 

[stonesoffire]

Then we have been given Kingdom authority..to rule as kings. A whole other thread.

 

[miknik5]

Say!!! What language do you speak?

THE LANGUAGE