Amen to that, the other problem is these potlucks and fellowship meals are more designed around eating and fellowshipping. Where the feasts were more about God and learning more about Him. The Messianic Jews still celebrate the feasts especially the seder meal during passover. When I was married we would do the passover meal, as a result the young boy that lived with us at the time got baptized about two weeks ago, I hope it was by the foundation of Christ that moved him to call on Jesus as Lord and be baptized. I remember him asking for more wine (juice) and he called it Jesus' blood.
Why Were the Jewish Feasts, Gods Feasts, Removed from Christianity.
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im not saying its not useful, it is very, but it is the jewish law, and its prett clearly remived completely from christianity. we learn in the new testament " sexual immorality is sin" we learn in the law what sexual immorality entails. the law is good, all im saying is its not what governs us any longer, it helps us learn of the new things.
one of the main issues in the new testament was the judiazers coming behing the apostles and insisting the chrisitans adhere to the mosaic Laws be circumcized and observe the mosaic Laws. thats what im saying, its not wrong to keep the feasts, its something that should be done according to a persons faith. if its in the heart of a christian they should, but its important to understand its not our law because the lae is one and cant be divided, so all the law has to be kept if a person takes it as thier Law, its contrary to the gospel in almost every way, not the feats but the civility and punishments, and the feasts and sabbaths were fulfilled by Jesus. thats all im saying, jusaism is the mosaic Law, the gospel is christianity they are two seperate things
one of the main issues in the new testament was the judiazers coming behing the apostles and insisting the chrisitans adhere to the mosaic Laws be circumcized and observe the mosaic Laws. thats what im saying, its not wrong to keep the feasts, its something that should be done according to a persons faith. if its in the heart of a christian they should, but its important to understand its not our law because the lae is one and cant be divided, so all the law has to be kept if a person takes it as thier Law, its contrary to the gospel in almost every way, not the feats but the civility and punishments, and the feasts and sabbaths were fulfilled by Jesus. thats all im saying, jusaism is the mosaic Law, the gospel is christianity they are two seperate things
Right Christians do not follow the Mosaic law. Well We do but not the same way...
[h=1]Matthew 22:36-40 (KJV)[/h] [SUP]36 [/SUP]Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
All of The Mosaic Law and all of the teaching of the prophets are based on these two laws...Keep these two and you keep all of the OT law.
But I'm not talking about the law...I'm talking about feasts
[h=1]Matthew 22:36-40 (KJV)[/h] [SUP]36 [/SUP]Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
All of The Mosaic Law and all of the teaching of the prophets are based on these two laws...Keep these two and you keep all of the OT law.
But I'm not talking about the law...I'm talking about feasts
How do you look at communion?
isnt that the body of the Lamb....and the Lambs blood? i think for me it comes down to the new covenant. im not at all saying you shouldnt or its wrong for you to do so, it actually sounds like a nice thing to do. i find that the passover, for me, is kept through communion, remembering the deliverance from sin and death by partaking of the body and blood of the Lords passover Lamb
i think there is good scriptural support for people following thier faith in matters like this
romans 14:5-9 "One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
it goes on but its pretty Long...the idea is rather than us deciding that a person should or shouldnt keep sabbaths and festivals, each should do what thier faith tells them about such things, because otherwise, thier conscience will be affected. and it becomes a stumbling block. so i hope you understand im not saying yu are wrong to keep the passover, sounds like a good thing for you to do. im just saying, the feasts of the law, are fulfilled in Christ as to a requirement. so either way, the person should follow thier own conscience in matters like days and festivals and sabbaths and ordinances of the Law. as Long as they are giving thanks to the Lord
God bless bro
isnt that the body of the Lamb....and the Lambs blood? i think for me it comes down to the new covenant. im not at all saying you shouldnt or its wrong for you to do so, it actually sounds like a nice thing to do. i find that the passover, for me, is kept through communion, remembering the deliverance from sin and death by partaking of the body and blood of the Lords passover Lamb
i think there is good scriptural support for people following thier faith in matters like this
romans 14:5-9 "One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
it goes on but its pretty Long...the idea is rather than us deciding that a person should or shouldnt keep sabbaths and festivals, each should do what thier faith tells them about such things, because otherwise, thier conscience will be affected. and it becomes a stumbling block. so i hope you understand im not saying yu are wrong to keep the passover, sounds like a good thing for you to do. im just saying, the feasts of the law, are fulfilled in Christ as to a requirement. so either way, the person should follow thier own conscience in matters like days and festivals and sabbaths and ordinances of the Law. as Long as they are giving thanks to the Lord
God bless bro
The other side of the covenants is where we forget to judge ourselves...The covenants say that we are co heirs with Jesus, joint heirs if you will....That means that EVERYTHING that God gave Jesus, He gave to us as well...But we continue to deny that part of the covenant. Both parts are vital to us, to our spirtitual, physical, emotional and everything else health...If we forget the second part....well that's the reason Christians get sick, why they die, why they live in poverty and defeat...They are beneath and not above. The tail and not the dog....Read my post there.
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All the feast and Holy days were written for the Israelite while they were in the desert for forty years. no other nation had heard of these feast and holy days. there were some outsiders in the camp also known as strangers, and they were not allowed to participate in any, only the Israelites. these were not just for the Jews, but all Israelites. The gentile were only to hear the gospel Of Jesus Christ and believe on his name and be saved. Jesus never said they had to follow any of theses.
Many who are in the Messiah are not aware of rabbinical teachings; that is, as to what they can be.
Rabbinical teachings to watch out for and avoid are those tradition they teach as mandatory or commanded by God.
The skull cap is one. The manner of certain cults within the unbrella called Judaism wear their hair or beards. The Chasidics really go out on a limb with their grooming and attire.
The easiest way to determine what is bad rabbinical is to simply learn from Jesus Christ.. This entails study of all of His Word and receiving allunderstanding by the Holy Spirit.
God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen.
Rabbinical teachings to watch out for and avoid are those tradition they teach as mandatory or commanded by God.
The skull cap is one. The manner of certain cults within the unbrella called Judaism wear their hair or beards. The Chasidics really go out on a limb with their grooming and attire.
The easiest way to determine what is bad rabbinical is to simply learn from Jesus Christ.. This entails study of all of His Word and receiving allunderstanding by the Holy Spirit.
God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen.
I did answer in #56 why christians don't keep the feasts or holy days.....
it is not that they were removed from christianity rather the other way round....
christianity in their ignorance allowed themselves to be moved away from God's commandments by UNgodly men who perverted GOD's Word ! They have followed a 'false jesus' originating from Rome and have 'forsaken the true Jesus of yesterday who gave His life for them for today and all time....so their (the christians) punishment is to walk in ignorance / darkness and disobedience UNTIL they turn and repent !!!
At present only a few are heeding the warning to come out of the confused religious systems captivating this world and deceiving it...it is high time to wake out of sleep Eph 5v14; Rom 13v11.
The road to destruction is broad and wide and ''many there be on it' ...even those who call 'Lord, Lord but not doing what He says Lk 6v46.
The thing is 'we can only serve 'one Jesus, either the real one who does not change or the imposter who has already changed things to cause DISunity and strife among people.
it is not that they were removed from christianity rather the other way round....
christianity in their ignorance allowed themselves to be moved away from God's commandments by UNgodly men who perverted GOD's Word ! They have followed a 'false jesus' originating from Rome and have 'forsaken the true Jesus of yesterday who gave His life for them for today and all time....so their (the christians) punishment is to walk in ignorance / darkness and disobedience UNTIL they turn and repent !!!
At present only a few are heeding the warning to come out of the confused religious systems captivating this world and deceiving it...it is high time to wake out of sleep Eph 5v14; Rom 13v11.
The road to destruction is broad and wide and ''many there be on it' ...even those who call 'Lord, Lord but not doing what He says Lk 6v46.
The thing is 'we can only serve 'one Jesus, either the real one who does not change or the imposter who has already changed things to cause DISunity and strife among people.
If you read Ex12 you will see that the STranger sojourning with Israel and closely associating themselves with the people of God came under the same law as those 'homeborn v 49....so NOT ALL foreigners were excluded...only those who did not join with them.
You had to be part of the 'Commonwealth of Israel then just as we do now ! It is wrong to assume any distinction - in Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile - all are one !!!
You had to be part of the 'Commonwealth of Israel then just as we do now ! It is wrong to assume any distinction - in Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile - all are one !!!
is this the scripture you were referring to with regards to skeptics and scoffers who still question THW TRUTH of THE GOSPEL?
2Peter 3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
Yes skeptics and scoffers
Where is THIS coming?
these skeptics and scoffers were questioning CHRIST's return already making manifest that they do not celebrate the Passover, they do not believe, and they are not IN CHRIST JESUS therefore foreigners who do not wish to celebrate the "Passover" and are not truly circumcised by GOD
Only baptized IN CHRIST JESUS is there ONE OLIVE TREE where there is neither Jew or gentile
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