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A faith of anxiety. The question needs to be asked, is anyone in the grace camp who does
not have an anxiety problem?
I ask this because the theology is about security and knowing you are safe no matter what.
Now I do know what anxiety is. I remember a few months ago waking up whinning and wimpering.
I do not know why, but I did know this was unusual for me.
I want you to know I know Christ loves me, because I know the cross and Jesus dying for me on it.
I do not need to know more than this, it is healing to my heart and soul, my mind and my strength.
And I deserve the 2nd death, for my sins, my thefts, my sexual desires, my envy, my anger, my
coveting, my swearing, my lying, my dishonouring my parents. But I have repented, confessed and
am washed clean, purified and made whole, with love working in my heart. I am a redeemed saint,
following my Lord. I do not earn this place, but I would dishonour my Lord by not obeying and following.
It would be a sin to not listen and obey, because I am a slave to righteousness.
Paul says it like this,
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
1 Cor 11:1
Join together in following my example, brothers and sisters, and just as you have us as a model, keep your eyes on those who live as we do.
Phil 3:17
For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example.
2 Thess 3:7
You are witnesses, and so is God, of how holy, righteous and blameless we were among you who believed.
1 Thess 2:10
So we are to be "holy, righteous and blameless".
But this comes by looking at ones heart and letting God minister love and grace
to your soul, and repenting, confessing and putting ones faith in Christ for specific
sins and their working through.
A faith of anxiety. The question needs to be asked, is anyone in the grace camp who does
not have an anxiety problem?
I ask this because the theology is about security and knowing you are safe no matter what.
Now I do know what anxiety is. I remember a few months ago waking up whinning and wimpering.
I do not know why, but I did know this was unusual for me.
I want you to know I know Christ loves me, because I know the cross and Jesus dying for me on it.
I do not need to know more than this, it is healing to my heart and soul, my mind and my strength.
And I deserve the 2nd death, for my sins, my thefts, my sexual desires, my envy, my anger, my
coveting, my swearing, my lying, my dishonouring my parents. But I have repented, confessed and
am washed clean, purified and made whole, with love working in my heart. I am a redeemed saint,
following my Lord. I do not earn this place, but I would dishonour my Lord by not obeying and following.
It would be a sin to not listen and obey, because I am a slave to righteousness.
Paul says it like this,
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
1 Cor 11:1
Join together in following my example, brothers and sisters, and just as you have us as a model, keep your eyes on those who live as we do.
Phil 3:17
For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example.
2 Thess 3:7
You are witnesses, and so is God, of how holy, righteous and blameless we were among you who believed.
1 Thess 2:10
So we are to be "holy, righteous and blameless".
But this comes by looking at ones heart and letting God minister love and grace
to your soul, and repenting, confessing and putting ones faith in Christ for specific
sins and their working through.
W
thank you for all that you do its greatly appreciated Fran....sometimes it seems as if I am at war with many here, but the real truth is i am at war with the false hoods they teach...Its has to be nothing about me, no axes to grind, but rather its all about Jesus, lest it all be wood, hay, and stubble. The bitter root of resentment is Satan's key device, 2 Cor 2, I must always hold fast to that warning, lest I become a castaway also...my hope is that others will see the truth contrasted against the many false hoods presented here, even presented by some sincere people, however sincerely deceived..I do get angry at times with the same old reformation dogma, whereas I have to depart for a while lest the sun set upon my anger, of the which Satan........be blessed
in regards to Joseph Prince.. he, like almost all of them was raised up through the system....when money and fame enter the gospel the truth has to be compromised, the wealth and fame demands that this be, and will not take a second seat to anything....early genesis referenced such false prophets to be giants/tyrants in the earth, the mighty men of renown...
in regards to Joseph Prince.. he, like almost all of them was raised up through the system....when money and fame enter the gospel the truth has to be compromised, the wealth and fame demands that this be, and will not take a second seat to anything....early genesis referenced such false prophets to be giants/tyrants in the earth, the mighty men of renown...
I know some here will disagree with this, but I really don't care. There is no such thing as hyper grace. The bible doesn't mention one word about hyper grace. Grace is grace, pure and simple. 
Adding hype, hypo, hyper whatever to it is just adding to the word of God and we aren't supposed to do that..
Adding hype, hypo, hyper whatever to it is just adding to the word of God and we aren't supposed to do that..After the interesting background stuff, these are difficult situations.
My first point is, couples though not married in a legal sense are married emotionally.
So my first point is to get to know the issue of commitment and fear they have with
each other and to establish real love and appreciation of each other along with proper
boundaries.
The goal is to encourage love and forgiveness between all parties and to turn a loose
relationship into a life long commitment honoured by the Lord.
It can though take years, and one step at a time. My first point of call would be discipleship
and the examples of people in difficult circumstances. When our security in love and Christ is
firmly founded, many other things fall into place.
Talking personally, my relationship with my wife took 3 years to establish, and we are still growing
25 years later. Love is fantastic, when the emotional boundaries and commitments are clear.
This is my take on this, but actually being there with people and learning their own life language
changes how one would express these things and when and where. God bless.
My first point is, couples though not married in a legal sense are married emotionally.
So my first point is to get to know the issue of commitment and fear they have with
each other and to establish real love and appreciation of each other along with proper
boundaries.
The goal is to encourage love and forgiveness between all parties and to turn a loose
relationship into a life long commitment honoured by the Lord.
It can though take years, and one step at a time. My first point of call would be discipleship
and the examples of people in difficult circumstances. When our security in love and Christ is
firmly founded, many other things fall into place.
Talking personally, my relationship with my wife took 3 years to establish, and we are still growing
25 years later. Love is fantastic, when the emotional boundaries and commitments are clear.
This is my take on this, but actually being there with people and learning their own life language
changes how one would express these things and when and where. God bless.
W
very true Matt, thanks for defending the faith once delivered to the saints,,,yes works and good deeds can not save us, for only the mercy of God can forgive past sins to those that should repent and believe. after that we are workers together with God preserving our salvation in the hope of eternal life....the mercy of God was justified to be dispensed because of the works of Jesus and His precious blood atonement,
I know some here will disagree with this, but I really don't care. There is no such thing as hyper grace. The bible doesn't mention one word about hyper grace. Grace is grace, pure and simple. Adding hype, hypo, hyper whatever to it is just adding to the word of God and we aren't supposed to do that..
Adding hype, hypo, hyper whatever to it is just adding to the word of God and we aren't supposed to do that..
I know some here will disagree with this, but I really don't care. There is no such thing as hyper grace. The bible doesn't mention one word about hyper grace. Grace is grace, pure and simple. Adding hype, hypo, hyper whatever to it is just adding to the word of God and we aren't supposed to do that..
Adding hype, hypo, hyper whatever to it is just adding to the word of God and we aren't supposed to do that..
I know some here will disagree with this, but I really don't care. There is no such thing as hyper grace. The bible doesn't mention one word about hyper grace. Grace is grace, pure and simple. Adding hype, hypo, hyper whatever to it is just adding to the word of God and we aren't supposed to do that..
Adding hype, hypo, hyper whatever to it is just adding to the word of God and we aren't supposed to do that..
HG is used to define a series of beliefs which have formed a school of theology at chooses
to agressively disown and attack other believers as being evil and anti-christian.
As a label it works to identify who conforms to this belief system and who does not.
Like many aligned with the group, the idea they might be outside traditional faith is not
their view, we are outside faith, they have just discovered its reality.
But this is always the problem of subjective perspectives, each speaker is where everyone
should be, because they have the "truth" and the others are too blind to see it, lol.
dc - you love labels. "deception" "no ability to be honest" "You take the cake pal for dishonesty"
Are you are meds as well? Maybe you are just addicted to baseball, see a few ideas and want
to hit people out of the park. Which version of Jesus did you see Him doing this?
Stephen is very honest and speaks it as he sees it. I might not agree with everything he writes
but he is very honest and straightforward. It then makes me wonder who are you?
Are you are meds as well? Maybe you are just addicted to baseball, see a few ideas and want
to hit people out of the park. Which version of Jesus did you see Him doing this?
Stephen is very honest and speaks it as he sees it. I might not agree with everything he writes
but he is very honest and straightforward. It then makes me wonder who are you?
1. Those who use hyper grace, are sorely deluded in their beliefs.
2. Anyone who reads, and understands, what's in their bible, have the truth.
2. Anyone who reads, and understands, what's in their bible, have the truth.
The above makes me laugh. It summarises the communication problems here.
HG is used to define a series of beliefs which have formed a school of theology at chooses
to agressively disown and attack other believers as being evil and anti-christian.
As a label it works to identify who conforms to this belief system and who does not.
Like many aligned with the group, the idea they might be outside traditional faith is not
their view, we are outside faith, they have just discovered its reality.
But this is always the problem of subjective perspectives, each speaker is where everyone
should be, because they have the "truth" and the others are too blind to see it, lol.
HG is used to define a series of beliefs which have formed a school of theology at chooses
to agressively disown and attack other believers as being evil and anti-christian.
As a label it works to identify who conforms to this belief system and who does not.
Like many aligned with the group, the idea they might be outside traditional faith is not
their view, we are outside faith, they have just discovered its reality.
But this is always the problem of subjective perspectives, each speaker is where everyone
should be, because they have the "truth" and the others are too blind to see it, lol.