KJV only....?
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And yet, my NASB has the allegedly missing phrase. Please do your homework. So much for a "death blow". You're basing your conclusion on your interpretation of what Luke said. By the way, the 23rd edition is older; the current version is either 27 or 28.
No, that is a gross misinterpretation (and slander!). What we see is that the text they chose does not have this verse. It says absolutely nothing about their belief in the bodily ascension. Their choice to exclude a passage which they did not consider authentic does not declare the fullness of their belief on the subject. After all, they include the full text of Acts 1:2, which mentions the resurrection.
This is a common tactic of KJV-onlyists. They claim that the absence of a particular verse in a particular translation is an attempt to twist the truth, yet they carefully exclude the fact that in almost every case, said truth is plainly stated elsewhere in the allegedly-corrupt text. This is bad logic and blatant dishonesty.
The whole post is based on a circular argument:
1. The KJV is correct (assumed in this post but known that John146 believes this).
2. The KJV says such and such.
3. Certain other versions don't, so they must be wrong.
Conclusion: the KJV is correct.
The only possibly-sound evidence you have presented is the manuscript evidence, presented without citation. That makes you guilty of plagiarism, a form of theft.
Dishonesty, slander and theft in the same post... gee John146, you're off to a bad start today.
No, that is a gross misinterpretation (and slander!). What we see is that the text they chose does not have this verse. It says absolutely nothing about their belief in the bodily ascension. Their choice to exclude a passage which they did not consider authentic does not declare the fullness of their belief on the subject. After all, they include the full text of Acts 1:2, which mentions the resurrection.
This is a common tactic of KJV-onlyists. They claim that the absence of a particular verse in a particular translation is an attempt to twist the truth, yet they carefully exclude the fact that in almost every case, said truth is plainly stated elsewhere in the allegedly-corrupt text. This is bad logic and blatant dishonesty.
The whole post is based on a circular argument:
1. The KJV is correct (assumed in this post but known that John146 believes this).
2. The KJV says such and such.
3. Certain other versions don't, so they must be wrong.
Conclusion: the KJV is correct.
The only possibly-sound evidence you have presented is the manuscript evidence, presented without citation. That makes you guilty of plagiarism, a form of theft.
Dishonesty, slander and theft in the same post... gee John146, you're off to a bad start today.
King James I of England, who authorized the translation of the now famous King James Bible, was considered by many to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, monarchs that England has ever seen.
Through his wisdom and determination he united the warring tribes of Scotland into a unified nation, and then joined England and Scotland to form the foundation for what is now known as the British Empire.
At a time when only the churches of England possessed the Bible in English, King James' desire was that the common people should have the Bible in their native tongue. Thus, in 1603, King James called 54 of history's most learned men together to accomplish this great task. At a time when the leaders of the world wished to keep their subjects in spiritual ignorance, King James offered his subjects the greatest gift that he could give them. Their own copy of the Word of God in English.
James, who was fluent in Latin, Greek, and French, and schooled in Italian and Spanish even wrote a tract entitled "Counterblast to Tobacco",which was written to help thwart the use of tobacco in England.
Such a man was sure to have enemies. One such man, Anthony Weldon, had to be excluded from the court. Weldon swore vengeance. It was not until 1650, twenty-five years after the death of James that Weldon saw his chance. He wrote a paper calling James a homosexual. Obviously, James, being dead, was in no condition to defend himself.
The report was largely ignored since there were still enough people alive who knew it wasn't true. In fact, it lay dormant for years, until recently when it was picked up by Christians who hoped that vilifying King James, would tarnish the Bible that bears his name so that Christians would turn away from God's book to a more "modern" translation.
It seems though, that Weldon's false account is being once again largely ignored by the majority of Christianity with the exception of those with an ulterior motive, such as its author had.
Through his wisdom and determination he united the warring tribes of Scotland into a unified nation, and then joined England and Scotland to form the foundation for what is now known as the British Empire.
At a time when only the churches of England possessed the Bible in English, King James' desire was that the common people should have the Bible in their native tongue. Thus, in 1603, King James called 54 of history's most learned men together to accomplish this great task. At a time when the leaders of the world wished to keep their subjects in spiritual ignorance, King James offered his subjects the greatest gift that he could give them. Their own copy of the Word of God in English.
James, who was fluent in Latin, Greek, and French, and schooled in Italian and Spanish even wrote a tract entitled "Counterblast to Tobacco",which was written to help thwart the use of tobacco in England.
Such a man was sure to have enemies. One such man, Anthony Weldon, had to be excluded from the court. Weldon swore vengeance. It was not until 1650, twenty-five years after the death of James that Weldon saw his chance. He wrote a paper calling James a homosexual. Obviously, James, being dead, was in no condition to defend himself.
The report was largely ignored since there were still enough people alive who knew it wasn't true. In fact, it lay dormant for years, until recently when it was picked up by Christians who hoped that vilifying King James, would tarnish the Bible that bears his name so that Christians would turn away from God's book to a more "modern" translation.
It seems though, that Weldon's false account is being once again largely ignored by the majority of Christianity with the exception of those with an ulterior motive, such as its author had.
The most literal and "accurate" of all English bibles says "which is really not another". Another what? Another different gospel? The NASB obviously got it wrong because the sentence isn't even coherent, what do you think it should have been translated as.
Galatians 1:6-7New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Perversion of the Gospel
6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you [a]by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:6-7New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Perversion of the Gospel
6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you [a]by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
I don't have to think what it should have been translated as....the words are there for all to look up and be honest with....
allos
heteros
And I can see clearly before translating that they are not the same word, they do not mean the same thing...God inspired each word for a reason.....end of story!
allos
heteros
And I can see clearly before translating that they are not the same word, they do not mean the same thing...God inspired each word for a reason.....end of story!
My Greek is not to good, but this is what I came up with.
"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting Him that called you in the grace of Christ to a different gospel: which is not another [one]..."
Is this right?
I got the Greek words from Galatians 1:6 Interlinear: I wonder that ye are so quickly removed from Him who did call you in the grace of Christ to another good news;.
"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting Him that called you in the grace of Christ to a different gospel: which is not another [one]..."
Is this right?
I got the Greek words from Galatians 1:6 Interlinear: I wonder that ye are so quickly removed from Him who did call you in the grace of Christ to another good news;.