Earth is Flat and Stationary

[Zen]

Really burst our bubble telling us the earth is flat.....dont tell me Venus was a Goddess Mars is a chcocolate bar and Mercury stays in thermometers.

How did the Greeks and Romans know about planets if they were just dots in the sky? They gave them names, and even Israelite kings worshiped them.

No one in the bible had telescopes or a space program.

2 Kings 23:5
And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.

They didn't have light pollution back then so their view of the night sky would have been great.

 

[posthuman]

See what I mean? This whole thing is pointless.

Yeah I can pull up obviously hand drawn frisbee planet pictures all day and pretend they are supposed to be real, so I can say 'aha' too.

But there are millions of actual pictures of our planet, which you folks ignore.

 

[tourist]

How did the Greeks and Romans know about planets if they were just dots in the sky? They gave them names, and even Israelite kings worshiped them.

No one in the bible had telescopes or a space program.

2 Kings 23:5
And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.

They didn't have light pollution back then so their view of the night sky would have been great.

Perhaps they didn't have a telescope but a few of them understood mathematics quite well and based on observable calculations determined a close approximate distance between the earth, the sun and the planets. They did not come up with the sun being 3000 miles from earth but rather a magnitude of 93,000,000 miles and 238,000 miles from the earth to the sun. If the sun was only 3000 miles away the earth would be burnt to a crisp.

 

[pckts]

Yeah I can pull up obviously hand drawn frisbee planet pictures all day and pretend they are supposed to be real, so I can say 'aha' too.

But there are millions of actual pictures of our planet, which you folks ignore.

No there are not, we don't ignore them, I look at them and say "Hey there's a cartoon image".

 

[pckts]

Perhaps they didn't have a telescope but a few of them understood mathematics quite well and based on observable calculations determined a close approximate distance between the earth, the sun and the planets. They did not come up with the sun being 3000 miles from earth but rather a magnitude of 93,000,000 miles and 238,000 miles from the earth to the sun. If the sun was only 3000 miles away the earth would be burnt to a crisp.

Unless the sun was the same size of the moon and "not that hot", than it could be closer and we could be safe.

If you apply the globe earth sun to the flat earth model you can quickly dismiss it because they are not compatible with one another, if you use the flat earth sun everything is ok.

 

[PeterJens]

Have I now made myself very CLEAR ???

Gary, we have done this.

So Gary, here are some pictures again of the whole earth, unedited, showing what
was seen by the cameras. There are thousands more and the satellites are taking them
all the time.

 

[Zen]

Perhaps they didn't have a telescope but a few of them understood mathematics quite well and based on observable calculations determined a close approximate distance between the earth, the sun and the planets. They did not come up with the sun being 3000 miles from earth but rather a magnitude of 93,000,000 miles and 238,000 miles from the earth to the sun. If the sun was only 3000 miles away the earth would be burnt to a crisp.

Smart enough to look at a small dot in the sky and conclude that it's a massive ball of rock or gas but not smart enough to worship the living God.

Yeah, a massive burning ball of gas being 3000 miles away would be pretty hazardous. Maybe the sun is different...

 

[PeterJens]

[video=youtube;1nWpLZoGhVg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nWpLZoGhVg[/video]
Time lapse from satellite showing a whole month put together, fantastic.

 

[Zen]

[video=youtube;1nWpLZoGhVg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nWpLZoGhVg[/video]
Time lapse from satellite showing a whole month put together, fantastic.

It's fake.

 

[tourist]

Smart enough to look at a small dot in the sky and conclude that it's a massive ball of rock or gas but not smart enough to worship the living God.

Yeah, a massive burning ball of gas being 3000 miles away would be pretty hazardous. Maybe the sun is different...

You don't really know whether or not that the ones who did the calculations worshiped the living God or not and neither do I as I was not there and don't know these people. Only the distance from the sun to the earth was determined, not the composition of the sun.

How did the flat earth people determine that the distance from the sun to the earth is 3000 miles? Did they attached the end of a measuring tape to earth and using a space ship placed the other end on the sun?

 

[Zen]

You don't really know whether or not that the ones who did the calculations worshiped the living God or not and neither do I as I was not there and don't know these people. Only the distance from the sun to the earth was determined, not the composition of the sun.

How did the flat earth people determine that the distance from the sun to the earth is 3000 miles? Did they attached the end of a measuring tape to earth and using a space ship placed the other end on the sun?

I don't know, I don't really research flat earth theories. Probably maths and observation.

 

[PeterJens]

[video=youtube;SGP6Y0Pnhe4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP6Y0Pnhe4[/video]
International Space Station

Oh you flat earthers this must all be faked and a lie to you. You live is such
a strange world if you think people are inventing obvious stuff that is really
happening.

 

[Billyd]

Please explain how you can have darkness on a flat earth when the sun is 93 million miles away. There is absolutely no way to locate a place on the earth using known distances between known points where darkness would exist if the sun is 93 million miles from earth. In fact, the only way that there can be the type darkness experienced on the earth is if the earth is a spherical object.

Anyone who believes that the Bible supports a flat earth, needs to spent a little more time studying the Bible. I believe that God created night and day early in Genesis 1. The earth has been spinning since.

 

[tourist]

How did the Greeks and Romans know about planets if they were just dots in the sky? They gave them names, and even Israelite kings worshiped them.

No one in the bible had telescopes or a space program.

2 Kings 23:5
And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.

They didn't have light pollution back then so their view of the night sky would have been great.

Living in the Tampa - St. Petersburg, Florida area I'm luck to see even a single star at night.

 

[Zen]

[video=youtube;SGP6Y0Pnhe4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP6Y0Pnhe4[/video]
International Space Station

Oh you flat earthers this must all be faked and a lie to you. You live is such
a strange world if you think people are inventing obvious stuff that is really
happening.

"If we start putting any forces in to the space station it's going to make those solar rays bounce around a little bit so to prevent that the machines bounce around a little bit, move around a little bit, and that way we don't put any forces on to the structure of the space craft out to the solar rays"

Wow, astronauts are so meticulous. Especially how they keep their junk and tools blocking the airlock.

 

[Zen]

Please explain how you can have darkness on a flat earth when the sun is 93 million miles away.

You're trying to apply heliocentric principles to flat earth theory, it doesn't work.

 

[tourist]

"If we start putting any forces in to the space station it's going to make those solar rays bounce around a little bit so to prevent that the machines bounce around a little bit, move around a little bit, and that way we don't put any forces on to the structure of the space craft out to the solar rays"

Wow, astronauts are so meticulous. Especially how they keep their junk and tools blocking the airlock.

I hope that lady didn't try to open the window to get a breath of fresh air.

 

[tourist]

Please explain how you can have darkness on a flat earth when the sun is 93 million miles away. There is absolutely no way to locate a place on the earth using known distances between known points where darkness would exist if the sun is 93 million miles from earth. In fact, the only way that there can be the type darkness experienced on the earth is if the earth is a spherical object.

Anyone who believes that the Bible supports a flat earth, needs to spent a little more time studying the Bible. I believe that God created night and day early in Genesis 1. The earth has been spinning since.

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it

 

[dcontroversal]

If the sun is 3000 miles away and only 32 miles across then Venus must be what about 2500 miles away and like 600 to 1000 yards across?? VENUS passing across the sun

 

[Dino246]

You made a ridiculous, boring, and ultimately pointless demand. Without the time of year and day there is nothing I can do/prove! Do you realize this?!?!?!?!?

The orbit of the sun changes throughout the year and the time of day effects it's position, analyzing the shadow of an unknown time and date is pointless!

The Sydney Opera House is SOUTH of the Tropic of Capricorn, or OUTSIDE your orange circle. The date is IRRELEVANT, because the sun is ALWAYS NORTH of this location. The time of day is early, just after sunrise. The daylight picture from above shows the shadows to the SOUTH of the OH. The sunrise photo shows the sun to the SOUTHEAST. Your hypothesis is trashed, your model is worthless, and your conspiracy is debunked.

Sydney, NSW, Australia: Latitude and longitude coordinates are: -33.865143, 151.209900. (source: http://www.latlong.net/place/sydney-nsw-australia-700.html)


"The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of Earth. As of 12 July 2017, its latitude is 23°26′13.2″ (or 23.43701°)[SUP][1][/SUP] south of the Equator" (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropic_of_Capricorn)