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There would be a practical benefit if it lead to unity, but as everyone sticks to their guns regardless of whether they fire blanks or not, it just creates a tumult of noise.
I guess if the theology schools charge admission then they are gleeful as it gives them loads of spurious stuff to teach to justify their existence.
I guess if the theology schools charge admission then they are gleeful as it gives them loads of spurious stuff to teach to justify their existence.
The Holy Spirit is not a commodity that one purchases.
[FONT="]Acts 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.[/FONT]
[FONT="]20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.[/FONT]
[FONT="]21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Acts 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.[/FONT]
[FONT="]20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.[/FONT]
[FONT="]21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.[/FONT]
No, not mankind but mankind who says "a better translation would be... ". One individual would be a priest, another is the Pope, the conglomerate of all those would be the whore drunk with the blood of the saints aka the beast.
Another scenario would be a Christian senator in a church saying "a better translation would be" and passing pro-abortion laws.
The beast grows and grows and blossoms into Mystery Babylon the great. The beast had a deadly wound when Christ came and put a nail in his head. But within a short period of time he came and is present with us today.
I think there's a lot more to it than that but that's all I understand right now.
Another scenario would be a Christian senator in a church saying "a better translation would be" and passing pro-abortion laws.
The beast grows and grows and blossoms into Mystery Babylon the great. The beast had a deadly wound when Christ came and put a nail in his head. But within a short period of time he came and is present with us today.
I think there's a lot more to it than that but that's all I understand right now.
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Rev. 14: 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
This is during the reign of the antichrist when he sets up the abomination of desolation in the midst of the week (7 year time frame).
Christians will be beat down and trampled under foot of the antichrist and they will be given into the hands of the antichrist for a time, times and half of time (3.5 years), but they will be helped a little. The two fiery witnesses will hinder the work of the antichrist and those accepting the mark of the beast.
True Christians won't receive the mark; so, they'll be targeted and hunted by society as the terrorist and the rejected noncompliant. Many Christians will be martyred, but not all. God will shorten the last 3. 5 years of the 7 week prophecy; otherwise, no flesh would survive. So buckle up; we'll be coming into hard times like the world has never know before.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
Here we see this go along with the opening of the 5th seal; the souls under the alter crying to God " Oh Lord, when will you judge those who dwell on the earth." White robes were given to them and they were told to wait for a season until their fellow servants should be killed as they were should be fulfilled.
IOW, the church will all be together. God will not divide his body into first and second class Christians. We have been baptized into one faith, one baptism, one body and one Lord. I believe the Lord has showed me that I'll be behead for my faith, and on the resurrection day the gathering together to Him (Some call it rapture), I'll be first to go, and the ones that are still alive and remain will follow. We true believers will be together.
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
This is during the reign of the antichrist when he sets up the abomination of desolation in the midst of the week (7 year time frame).
Christians will be beat down and trampled under foot of the antichrist and they will be given into the hands of the antichrist for a time, times and half of time (3.5 years), but they will be helped a little. The two fiery witnesses will hinder the work of the antichrist and those accepting the mark of the beast.
True Christians won't receive the mark; so, they'll be targeted and hunted by society as the terrorist and the rejected noncompliant. Many Christians will be martyred, but not all. God will shorten the last 3. 5 years of the 7 week prophecy; otherwise, no flesh would survive. So buckle up; we'll be coming into hard times like the world has never know before.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
Here we see this go along with the opening of the 5th seal; the souls under the alter crying to God " Oh Lord, when will you judge those who dwell on the earth." White robes were given to them and they were told to wait for a season until their fellow servants should be killed as they were should be fulfilled.
IOW, the church will all be together. God will not divide his body into first and second class Christians. We have been baptized into one faith, one baptism, one body and one Lord. I believe the Lord has showed me that I'll be behead for my faith, and on the resurrection day the gathering together to Him (Some call it rapture), I'll be first to go, and the ones that are still alive and remain will follow. We true believers will be together.
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It's always been a big help for me when trying to understand a difficult topic in the Bible to do a "key word" search of the Bible to see how a word or phrase has been used in the past. I usually start out with the target phrase(s) like this:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, [SUP]10 [/SUP]he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
We learn that those who WORSHIP THE BEAST AND HIS IMAGE receive the mark.
Therefore, WORSHIPING THE BEAST GETS YOU THE MARK!!
We have a companion target passage just before this:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. [SUP]12 [/SUP]And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast...as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. [SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark...
So again, those who worship the beast (first beast "of the Sea"), receive the beast's mark. Here's another clue for "those who have wisdom" so this won't apply to all who are reading this, it only applies to those with wisdom. The clue is: "the earth" is Israel or of Israel" and the sea "is the Gentile nations (or of them) which surround Israel." Those who don't understand this will never understand.
So what about "the Mark?" We need to see what other evil people were marked.
Job 10: If I sin, then You mark me, And will not acquit me of my iniquity.
Psa 130: If You, Lord, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who could stand?
Jer 2: For though you wash yourself with lye, and use much soap, Yet your iniquity is marked before Me,” says the Lord God.
Eze 9: and the Lord said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it.”
The last one appears to be the closest in meaning. Do we see a trend developing? Darn, I have to go to church now. Will finish my thoughts when I get back.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, [SUP]10 [/SUP]he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
We learn that those who WORSHIP THE BEAST AND HIS IMAGE receive the mark.
Therefore, WORSHIPING THE BEAST GETS YOU THE MARK!!
We have a companion target passage just before this:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. [SUP]12 [/SUP]And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast...as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. [SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark...
So again, those who worship the beast (first beast "of the Sea"), receive the beast's mark. Here's another clue for "those who have wisdom" so this won't apply to all who are reading this, it only applies to those with wisdom. The clue is: "the earth" is Israel or of Israel" and the sea "is the Gentile nations (or of them) which surround Israel." Those who don't understand this will never understand.
So what about "the Mark?" We need to see what other evil people were marked.
Job 10: If I sin, then You mark me, And will not acquit me of my iniquity.
Psa 130: If You, Lord, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who could stand?
Jer 2: For though you wash yourself with lye, and use much soap, Yet your iniquity is marked before Me,” says the Lord God.
Eze 9: and the Lord said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it.”
The last one appears to be the closest in meaning. Do we see a trend developing? Darn, I have to go to church now. Will finish my thoughts when I get back.
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