The “I Wills” of God

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loveme1

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Na it's all good, you may think it's loyalty though I will say Yes his my friend and I will not shy away from that,,,

think what ever you think doesn't change a thing, but I will stand for those who have good intentions yet get pounded for something they never said or implied
Indeed, but your accusations were presumptions.. and you took to accuse... and I refute. I forgive you.
 
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I agree licentiousness (or what they seem to want to call easy believism) is a problem, But no more than legalism, and what we have to guard against is replacing one bad gospel with the opposite gospel which is just as bad.

of course the issue is, Who they call liscentious or easy believers, are not what they say they are.. So instead of being united in a fight against one bad gospel, we have to put a hand up and say woe woe, stop right here, these people do not preach what you claim..

and thats what we have been doing for well over a year now. it is sad.
ever read a Joe Prince book? maybe you should....The real keys to their deception are not public much, they slip up every now and then, it is in the books that you see the deceptions...This is where Ken Hagin Sr. did most of his damage....in his books...Joe Prince teaches a new revelation, that Communion now heals physical diseases and aliments...... The can be held accountable for public comments, but they go unchecked in their books...the deception are all over the place in the books...
 
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eternally-gratefull

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ever read a Joe Prince book? maybe you should....The real keys to their deception are not public much, they slip up every now and then, it is in the books that you see the deceptions...This is where Ken Hagin Sr. did most of his damage....in his books...Joe Prince teaches a new revelation, that Communion now heals physical diseases and aliments...... The can be held accountable for public comments, but they go unchecked in their books...the deception are all over the place in the books...
as I said, I will fight WOF tooth and nail.

But if your going to say they have a false gospel. I need proof. not just hearsay.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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so I was wondering, Does anyone have anything to say about the actual op? Agree or disagree, and can you please expose the actually points you disagree or agree with and why?
 
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BeyondET

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Indeed, but your accusations were presumptions.. and you took to accuse... and I refute. I forgive you.
I only spoke what I saw, there's nothing to forgive unless your feelings got hurt, then I'll say I'm sorry for hurting your feelings.
 
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EG, there is life past a little christian chat board.....

Many times I am speaking form my life experience not accusing anyone here...sorry if it seems that way....

the people I was referring to are in real life.....We had a hard core lesbian come in a service once...we were praying over everyone in service and laying hands on them....she defiantly came up and said...Yep, Jesus is in my heart and he knows that I love having lustful dirty sex with girls....he is square with it and so should you.....so I do not need no prayer from you or your wife....

I said interesting....she said what? I said your immoral lifestyle wont send you to hell, your unbelief in Jesus Christ and what he did for you is.....

She stomped off and said typical preacher and bigot, Jesus understands my lust for girls...., but close the end of the service the Holy Spirit wrecked her good....

She is one of the very few engaged in that lifestyle that we have witnessed who was delivered completely after her conversion....She thanks me every time we see her, for giving her the truth...she is now getting other women out of this lifestyle


This woman actually thought she was in relationship with Jesus...

Now that is an example of a deceived mind that has no clue of the gospel of the grace of God in Christ. Whether she was actually born-again when she heard the message of Christ - that's for God to decide who knows the hearts.

Sometimes people will be turned over to satan for the destruction of the flesh too but that's only done by those in authority that are spiritually mature and seems to be a rare case.

Acts 15:8-9 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;

[SUP]9 [/SUP] and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.

She really needs to hear the gospel. It's the goodness of God that leads us to repentance.
 
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BeyondET

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Hey I like the post about Jesus mother and brothers looking to speak to him, IMO this happened once while at the wedding in Cana and another place as well

The parables of the mustard seed and the yeast
Matthew 13: 31~35
31 He set another parable before them, saying, “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field. 32 which indeed is smaller than all seeds, But when it is grown, it is greater than the herbs, and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in its branches.”
33 He spoke another parable to them. “The Kingdom of Heaven is like yeast, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, until it was all leavened.”

Jesus’ Mother and brothers wanting speak to him
Matthew 12: 46~49
46 While he was speaking to the multitudes, behold, his mother and his brothers stood outside, seeking to speak to him. 47 One said to him, “Behold, your mother and your brothers stand outside, seeking to speak to you.” 48 But he answered him who spoke to him, “Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?” 49 He stretched out his hand toward his disciples, and said, “Behold, my mother and my brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.”

Jesus changes water into wine B
John 2: 3~10
3 When the wine ran out, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no wine.” 4 Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does that have to do with you and me? My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Whatever he says to you, do it.” 6 Now there were six water pots of stone set there after the Jews’ way of purifying, containing two or three metretes apiece. 7 Jesus said to them, “Fill the water pots with water.” So they filled them up to the brim. 8 He said to them, “Now draw some out, and take it to the ruler of the feast.” So they took it. 9 When the ruler of the feast tasted the water now become wine, and didn’t know where it came from (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the ruler of the feast called the bridegroom 10 and said to him, “Everyone serves the good wine first, and when the guests have drunk freely, then that which is worse. You have kept the good wine until now!”
 
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Sister huh, where was she at that time., o yea getting married duh.
 
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"Easy believism" also often implies or outright accuses others
of thinking they can sin all they want once they are saved.

The funny thing is watching people who use this term sin all
they want and never repent of it. Hypocrisy at its finest
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That statement is nothing but pure deflection. No facts, no proof.
 
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Yep. the worse thing you can do is expose one of them as doing something which is sin

they will attack you, Blame shift, Say it is not sin, Do anything but repent of the sin they are actually doing, then turn around and tell you how much you love sin..

It is actually laughable if it were not so sad.. (god certainly is not laughing, Like he said to jerusalem, he is sad.)
And look at this..... EG is agreeing & deflecting as well, talking about blame shifting.....

He's not just using deflection, he's projecting what he does on the others.
 
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ever read a Joe Prince book? maybe you should....The real keys to their deception are not public much, they slip up every now and then, it is in the books that you see the deceptions...This is where Ken Hagin Sr. did most of his damage....in his books...Joe Prince teaches a new revelation, that Communion now heals physical diseases and aliments...... The can be held accountable for public comments, but they go unchecked in their books...the deception are all over the place in the books...

I have read Prince's books and I don't see anything wrong in them. I see where others not understanding could make something out of it that isn't there.

I have seen these heretic hunter twist what is said so bad that it's ridiculous and deceitful.

When I first heard of him teaching on 1 John 1:9 - I was offended and wouldn't listen to him because what he said conflicted with my church teachings.

Prince is spot on when it comes to the true gospel of the grace of God in Christ. All his teachings lift up Christ Himself and point us to Him.

But one day I asked the Lord to show me the truth and He had to circumvent Prince because of my mind rejected him. The Lord used various other people and I got a bit here and a bit there until now I look at 1 John 1:9 and it seems so obvious now that I think - "How in the world did I ever not see that?"

The strongest hurtle is for us Christians to get our un-renewed minds thinking correctly according to Christ alone and what He has already done. The religious strongholds in our minds are our one of our enemies - satan uses this to deceive us.

There are some things I agree with and some I don't. I don't believe in tithing the way he sees it but I am not going to slander him over it.

The truth is that we all could be labeled as giving deception - even you and me...selah ( because what we believe will conflict with someone else's church teachings and thus we would be deemed as being deceptive. )
 
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Magenta

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That statement is nothing but pure deflection. No facts, no proof.
Deflecting from what? Nobody has accused me of anything or asked me a question. Except for you now, with your accusations as usual. Perhaps once again you feel convicted by what I say :)
 
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Here's a question what are some of the word meanings for (grace) in modern English language, Greek, Hebrew etc...?
Unmerited ...favor …underserved in respect to the one who freely received it from another who did do the work as the one who pays the wage od sin… the one who earned the reward of faith, Christ, as a imputed righteousness.
 
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Does grace forgive sin or the shedding of Jesus Blood?

Does grace reconcile you back to God or Jesus Christ?

Is Grace above the name of Jesus?


John 1.17-
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ.

Realized means came to be through what Jesus Christ accomplished, not that Jesus Christ became grace...
**You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Meggido again.**
 
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I have read Prince's books and I don't see anything wrong in them. I see where others not understanding could make something out of it that isn't there.

I have seen these heretic hunter twist what is said so bad that it's ridiculous and deceitful.

When I first heard of him teaching on 1 John 1:9 - I was offended and wouldn't listen to him because what he said conflicted with my church teachings.

Prince is spot on when it comes to the true gospel of the grace of God in Christ. All his teachings lift up Christ Himself and point us to Him.

But one day I asked the Lord to show me the truth and He had to circumvent Prince because of my mind rejected him. The Lord used various other people and I got a bit here and a bit there until now I look at 1 John 1:9 and it seems so obvious now that I think - "How in the world did I ever not see that?"

The strongest hurtle is for us Christians to get our un-renewed minds thinking correctly according to Christ alone and what He has already done. The religious strongholds in our minds are our one of our enemies - satan uses this to deceive us.

There are some things I agree with and some I don't. I don't believe in tithing the way he sees it but I am not going to slander him over it.

The truth is that we all could be labeled as giving deception - even you and me...selah ( because what we believe will conflict with someone else's church teachings and thus we would be deemed as being deceptive. )
What did I say earlier? A total follower of Joseph Prince!
 
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Deflecting from what? Nobody has accused me of anything or asked me a question. Except for you now, with your accusations as usual. Perhaps once again you feel convicted by what I say :)
I was wrong about deflection. Its actually projection.:)
Originally Posted by Magenta

"Easy believism" also often implies or outright accuses others
of thinking they can sin all they want once they are saved.

The funny thing is watching people who use this term sin all
they want and never repent of it. Hypocrisy at its finest
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UnderGrace

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I have to agree, I listened to a you tube video once and he talked about the healing properties of communion. It was a real stretch of scripture, it almost sounded like Catholicism.

I absolutely follow the gospel of grace, yet many wolves have come in and teach things that are unscriptural.

Once has to be ever so vigilant!



ever read a Joe Prince book? maybe you should....The real keys to their deception are not public much, they slip up every now and then, it is in the books that you see the deceptions...This is where Ken Hagin Sr. did most of his damage....in his books...Joe Prince teaches a new revelation, that Communion now heals physical diseases and aliments...... The can be held accountable for public comments, but they go unchecked in their books...the deception are all over the place in the books...
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I have better things to do that try to discredit someone, if. See someonpost a comment from him I Disagree, I will comment, otherwise no use going on a witch hunt, it never changed anyone's view before.

again, if you have proof show it, otherwise, I will just go off what we have seen posted aver the last year and a half.