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I don't disagree with anything you've posted.
Let's go through the verses:
Mathew 13:20-21
This is JESUS speaking...
verse 20
The person HEARS the word. In Jesus' time HEAR meanto to hear with the heart, to accept with the mind and heart.
He accepts it with JOY. This means that the hearer understood the message. We all had joy when we got to know Jesus.
So he HEARD WITH JOY. This sounds to me like the person BELIEVED in what he heard.
verse 21
"He dureth for a while" Jesus is saying that the believer believed FOR A WHILE.
My NASB says that it was ONLY TEMPORARY.
So, it would seem, according to Jesus' words, that the hearer understood, accepted with joy, and believed, BUT ONLY FOR A WHILE.
Which means that it IS possible to believe FOR ONLY A WHILE. (for many different reasons, in this case persecution).
Dead faith in the bible is referring to a BELIEVER that has DEAD FAITH.
Everyone else definitely has dead faith because they have NO FAITH.
Dead Faith in a believer, according to James, is someone who does no works but says he has faith.
James 2:14
James 2:17
James 2:20
John 6:37
The Father calls ALL to go to Christ.
Romans 2:19-20 God Father has made Himself be known and has given His only Son. John 3:16 that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in Jesus should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Whosoever BELIEVES. Present tense. You must believe at the time of Death.
FAITH AND BELIEF = SALVATION
No FAITH No BELIEF = NO SALVATION (just like those atheists that do not believe)
Jesus will NEVER cast out anyone who wants to remain in Him.
Definition of cast out
transitive verb
: to drive out : expel
John 10:28
No MAN OR SPIRIT BEING will EVER pluck us out of the hand of God.
But where does it say we cannot walk out?
Can we walk out of our own free will or not?
Do we lose our free will when we become saved?
This is an important question to ask ourselves.
If we are FORCED BY GOD TO REMAIN SAVED, even if we WANT TO LEAVE, then we have to believe we've lost our free will.
If we have free will, then we have it forever. So if I WANT to leave God, I should have the free will to do exactly this.
God made us in His image.
Free Will is one of the attributes He gave us.
I'd like to say that those who do not adhere to OSAS, do not say the above to scare anyone, but to bring to their attention that is IS POSSIBLE to lose salvation. IT IS NOT EASY.
Those who know and love God will tend to stay with Him their Whole life.
But, we cannot say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to lose salvation. I'm sure we all know persons who have had this experience.
I don't sit around worrying about it all the time.
Posters here tell me I must not have joy because of this.
I have the same joy they have AND MORE.
Because I know it's UP TO ME to remain in our Lord...
I don't have to hear from someone someday say. She never believed to begin with.
Now THAT is insecurity !
Let's go through the verses:
Mathew 13:20-21
This is JESUS speaking...
verse 20
The person HEARS the word. In Jesus' time HEAR meanto to hear with the heart, to accept with the mind and heart.
He accepts it with JOY. This means that the hearer understood the message. We all had joy when we got to know Jesus.
So he HEARD WITH JOY. This sounds to me like the person BELIEVED in what he heard.
verse 21
"He dureth for a while" Jesus is saying that the believer believed FOR A WHILE.
My NASB says that it was ONLY TEMPORARY.
So, it would seem, according to Jesus' words, that the hearer understood, accepted with joy, and believed, BUT ONLY FOR A WHILE.
Which means that it IS possible to believe FOR ONLY A WHILE. (for many different reasons, in this case persecution).
Dead faith in the bible is referring to a BELIEVER that has DEAD FAITH.
Everyone else definitely has dead faith because they have NO FAITH.
Dead Faith in a believer, according to James, is someone who does no works but says he has faith.
James 2:14
James 2:17
James 2:20
John 6:37
The Father calls ALL to go to Christ.
Romans 2:19-20 God Father has made Himself be known and has given His only Son. John 3:16 that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in Jesus should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Whosoever BELIEVES. Present tense. You must believe at the time of Death.
FAITH AND BELIEF = SALVATION
No FAITH No BELIEF = NO SALVATION (just like those atheists that do not believe)
Jesus will NEVER cast out anyone who wants to remain in Him.
Definition of cast out
transitive verb
: to drive out : expel
John 10:28
No MAN OR SPIRIT BEING will EVER pluck us out of the hand of God.
But where does it say we cannot walk out?
Can we walk out of our own free will or not?
Do we lose our free will when we become saved?
This is an important question to ask ourselves.
If we are FORCED BY GOD TO REMAIN SAVED, even if we WANT TO LEAVE, then we have to believe we've lost our free will.
If we have free will, then we have it forever. So if I WANT to leave God, I should have the free will to do exactly this.
God made us in His image.
Free Will is one of the attributes He gave us.
I'd like to say that those who do not adhere to OSAS, do not say the above to scare anyone, but to bring to their attention that is IS POSSIBLE to lose salvation. IT IS NOT EASY.
Those who know and love God will tend to stay with Him their Whole life.
But, we cannot say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to lose salvation. I'm sure we all know persons who have had this experience.
I don't sit around worrying about it all the time.
Posters here tell me I must not have joy because of this.
I have the same joy they have AND MORE.
Because I know it's UP TO ME to remain in our Lord...
I don't have to hear from someone someday say. She never believed to begin with.
Now THAT is insecurity !
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no to me it sounds like he was never of God
just given a portion of faith like everyone
and some knowledge he ended up forsaking
and became reprobate afterwords
but
unless he is lying when he says he believes "if Jesus is God then i should be fine"
because he believes(or believed) in eternal salvation
then it kind of sounded like one of them people you said you "never" met
just given a portion of faith like everyone
and some knowledge he ended up forsaking
and became reprobate afterwords
but
unless he is lying when he says he believes "if Jesus is God then i should be fine"
because he believes(or believed) in eternal salvation
then it kind of sounded like one of them people you said you "never" met
Do you read what you write?
Those of us who LOVE JESUS
and
are DOING WHAT WE DO or NOT DOING
because we want to adhere what our LORD AND MASTER is teaching us and has taught everyone
are
Anti-Christ.
I sure hope those reading along caught this.
I suppose those WHO DISOBEY God and DO NOT DO what He wants are the "real" Christians?
It's tooooo much.
Let's see what JESUS has to say about this:
John 14:15
John 15:14
John 15:1-6
John 5:27-29
Those of us who LOVE JESUS
and
are DOING WHAT WE DO or NOT DOING
because we want to adhere what our LORD AND MASTER is teaching us and has taught everyone
are
Anti-Christ.
I sure hope those reading along caught this.
I suppose those WHO DISOBEY God and DO NOT DO what He wants are the "real" Christians?
It's tooooo much.
Let's see what JESUS has to say about this:
John 14:15
John 15:14
John 15:1-6
John 5:27-29
NNM
It does't matter what his belief system was.
Your uncle was saved, and now he's not.
This happens.
I know at least 2 people I could think of just off hand that are no longer believers.
If they knew Jesus and did their best to follow His leading... they were saved.
As I said, it's not easy to leave God,
but it is possible...
It does't matter what his belief system was.
Your uncle was saved, and now he's not.
This happens.
I know at least 2 people I could think of just off hand that are no longer believers.
If they knew Jesus and did their best to follow His leading... they were saved.
As I said, it's not easy to leave God,
but it is possible...
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That is exactly what I'm saying.
And because genuine faith is evidenced by works, Christ will use our works as evidence to determine if we go to the left or to the right at the Judgment (Matthew 25:31-46). So it is only in that way that works are necessary for salvation--they are the evidence that must follow the faith that saves all by itself apart from works.
But so many people think that just because salvation does start the moment you believe then it isn't necessary that their faith produce works--they're already saved. They don't understand that if they really were saved at the moment of believing their works will prove it (or disprove it).
That's why the Bible tells us to make our calling and election sure by being diligent to bring increase to our knowledge of God, it's so we can know for ourselves that we do indeed have the faith that saves all by itself apart from works and are prepared for the coming Judgment. Our works prove, or disprove, the presence of the faith that saves all by itself apart from works.
And because genuine faith is evidenced by works, Christ will use our works as evidence to determine if we go to the left or to the right at the Judgment (Matthew 25:31-46). So it is only in that way that works are necessary for salvation--they are the evidence that must follow the faith that saves all by itself apart from works.
But so many people think that just because salvation does start the moment you believe then it isn't necessary that their faith produce works--they're already saved. They don't understand that if they really were saved at the moment of believing their works will prove it (or disprove it).
That's why the Bible tells us to make our calling and election sure by being diligent to bring increase to our knowledge of God, it's so we can know for ourselves that we do indeed have the faith that saves all by itself apart from works and are prepared for the coming Judgment. Our works prove, or disprove, the presence of the faith that saves all by itself apart from works.
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It's nice how you picked out two verses about grace and spoke to those.
Did you notice that there were twice as many verses on WORKS in the book of Titus,which YOU brought up BTW.
Care to address those?
No. You don't care for works.
Even though the book of Titus CLEARLY states that they are NECESSARY.
Did you notice that there were twice as many verses on WORKS in the book of Titus,which YOU brought up BTW.
Care to address those?
No. You don't care for works.
Even though the book of Titus CLEARLY states that they are NECESSARY.
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i wouldnt go that far.....
i may actually disagree with you here....
but im not sure because like i said
i didnt KNOW him back then
and even if i did
i havent known enough about God to test spirits until only recently
i dont think its impossible to THINK youre saved
and not be saved
revelation makes that clear
what i do believe is
genuine faith in Jesus
leads to good change because the Holy spirit... not bad change
so if i see bad change (towards the world and away from God)
it seems the faith isnt genuine to me
i may actually disagree with you here....
but im not sure because like i said
i didnt KNOW him back then
and even if i did
i havent known enough about God to test spirits until only recently
i dont think its impossible to THINK youre saved
and not be saved
revelation makes that clear
what i do believe is
genuine faith in Jesus
leads to good change because the Holy spirit... not bad change
so if i see bad change (towards the world and away from God)
it seems the faith isnt genuine to me
Yes the works of Christ do accompany salvation .After all it is Christ working in us to both hear His will and do it. If we do His will we cannot be accredited for it. Its not our will or breath of air needed to perform it . He makes our hearts soft
This is the work that accompanies salvation (note the italics part):
Yes the works of Christ do accompany the salvation of Christ. Remember it is Christ working in us to both hear His will and do it. If we do His will we cannot be accredited for it.(blasphemy).
Its not our will or breath of air needed to perform it. he performs all that is apointed to us. It is he alone who can make our hearts soft. He who moves Holy men to do His will is recognized be the Spirit of Grace. His Grace coming from His work does make our hearts soft
He earned it His glory accompanies it
Salvation is of Christ alone. He is our confidence .He informs us if he has begun the good work of salvation in us he will finish it to the end . He finishes every thing he starts.
Two companies of people. It a warning to those who have salvation not to think lightly of violated the law of God Christian will not be barren all the work needed to appease the wrath of His father have been made .
Phi 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
What do you have that you have not received? And if you have received it (not earned it) why would you glory in your own flesh as if you earned it?
He earned its His glory accompanies it. Why glory in the flesh?
Salvation is of Christ alone. He is our confidence .He informs us if he has begun the good work of salvation in us he will finish it to the end . He finishes every thing he starts.
Thorn and thistles are for those in Hebrew 6. They think one demonstration was not enough to show all the work neded to redeem us, is finished . Better things accompany salvation for the believer called redemption
It a warning to those who have salvation not to think lightly of violated the law of God Christian will not be barren all the work needed to appease the wrath of His father have been made .
Phi 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
If I could ask, are you a Catholic ?
This is the work that accompanies salvation (note the italics part):
Yes the works of Christ do accompany the salvation of Christ. Remember it is Christ working in us to both hear His will and do it. If we do His will we cannot be accredited for it.(blasphemy).
Its not our will or breath of air needed to perform it. he performs all that is apointed to us. It is he alone who can make our hearts soft. He who moves Holy men to do His will is recognized be the Spirit of Grace. His Grace coming from His work does make our hearts soft
He earned it His glory accompanies it
Salvation is of Christ alone. He is our confidence .He informs us if he has begun the good work of salvation in us he will finish it to the end . He finishes every thing he starts.
Two companies of people. It a warning to those who have salvation not to think lightly of violated the law of God Christian will not be barren all the work needed to appease the wrath of His father have been made .
Phi 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
What do you have that you have not received? And if you have received it (not earned it) why would you glory in your own flesh as if you earned it?
He earned its His glory accompanies it. Why glory in the flesh?
Salvation is of Christ alone. He is our confidence .He informs us if he has begun the good work of salvation in us he will finish it to the end . He finishes every thing he starts.
Thorn and thistles are for those in Hebrew 6. They think one demonstration was not enough to show all the work neded to redeem us, is finished . Better things accompany salvation for the believer called redemption
It a warning to those who have salvation not to think lightly of violated the law of God Christian will not be barren all the work needed to appease the wrath of His father have been made .
Phi 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
If I could ask, are you a Catholic ?
Hi UG,
My last post before resting for the evening. Great question. Lets look at what the Word of God says...
Jesus is our example and we should follow him;
1 Peter 2:20-22
For what credit is there if, when you sin and are harshly treated, you endure it with patience? But if when you do what is right and suffer for it you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God. For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH;
1 John 2:6
The one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
Matthew 16:24
Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.
What did Jesus teach us about the Sabbath?
Jesus came to teach us about the Sabbath when he was with us. The Jews had placed so many restrictions on the Sabbath commandment that it had become a burden to the people and was nearly impossible to keep (Luke 13:14; John 5:10-18; 9:16; etc). Jesus taught us that this was not the purpose of the Sabbath.
(1) He taught us that the Sabbath was made for mankind and that mankind was not created for the Sabbath (Mark 2:27).
Jesus came to teach us that (2) He is the Lord of the Sabbath and that this is the Lord's Day (Mark 2:28)
Jesus came to (3) teach us that it is ok to enjoy the Sabbath and to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14)
(4) Jesus taught and fellow shipped with his people on the Sabbath (Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56).
Similar verses can be shown for the apostles after the death of Jesus (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)
HEB 4
King James Bible
A Sabbath-Rest for God's People
(Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 16:22-36)
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limited a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Key Scripture points
· Fear that the promise being left us any of us should fall short of entering God’s rest (v1)
· The Gospel was preached to the people in the Wilderness as well as us. The Word did not profit those in the wilderness because of their unbeliefit (v2)
· For we which have believed do enter into His Rest. The people in the wilderness that did not believe God did not enter into His Rest even though works were finished from the foundation of the world (v3)
· Speaking of the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath and the last day of the creation week (Gen 2:1-3) (v4)
· God’s rest (Gen 2:1-3), those that believe enter into God’s 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath rest those that do not believe do not enter into God’s 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath rest (v5-6)
· Harden not your heart in unbelief (v7-8)
· There is a rest for the people of God (v9)
· Those that enter into God’s rest cease from works as God did v10
· We should labour to enter into God’s rest (Gen 2:1-3) faith in God’s Word (rest through believing God) v11
· The Word of God is powerful. v12
Please go back and look at the Greek meaning of the word "rest" used in Heb 4:9 its meaning is resting through keeping of a Sabbath or Sabbath observance. (I have provided Greek links below)
“There remaineth therefore a [Sabbath] rest [SUP]4520[/SUP] to the people of God.” (NAS; Heb 4:9)
The Greek word literally means “Sabbath keeping” or “Sabbath observance.” (links below)
Strong's Concordance 4520
sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Short Definition: a Sabbath rest
Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
Strong's Greek 4520
σαββατισμὸς — 1 Occ.
Hebrews 4:9N-NMS
GRK: ἄρα ἀπολείπεται σαββατισμὸς τῷ λαῷ
NAS: there remains a Sabbath rest for the people
KJV: therefore a rest to the people
INT: Then remains a sabbath rest to the people
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 4520: σαββατισμός
σαββατισμός, σαββατισμου, ὁ (σαββατίζω to keep the sabbath); 1. a keeping sabbath. 2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians (R. V. sabbath rest): Hebrews 4:9. (Plutarch, de superstit. c. 3; ecclesiastical writings.)
So let’s pull Hebrews 4:1-12 all together?
The context is God’s rest from the week of creation on the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day of the creation week (Heb 4:1-5). Those that did not enter into God’s rest (7th Day Sabbath) did not enter in because of their unbelief and disobedience (sins) to God’s Word. The Gospel was preached unto them but they did not believe it (Heb 4:2). God did not give them His true rest (Heb 4:5-8). This is the same warning for those that disobey Him and do not follow His Word. Only those that believe and obey God’s Word enter into his 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath rest (Heb 4:6, 9, 10-12). So as you can see Hebrews 4:1-12are not answering the earlier questions. In fact these scriptures support and talk about God’s 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath those that entered into God’s rest and those that did not.
This post has not even considered the posts in relation to God's Law which is another topic showing the same as what is posted here. Ok I have answered your question can you answer mine now while I go rest?
Can anyone show me one bible verse that says that the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day?
That says the seventh day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?
Hope this helps.
God bless
My last post before resting for the evening. Great question. Lets look at what the Word of God says...
Jesus is our example and we should follow him;
1 Peter 2:20-22
For what credit is there if, when you sin and are harshly treated, you endure it with patience? But if when you do what is right and suffer for it you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God. For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH;
1 John 2:6
The one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
Matthew 16:24
Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.
What did Jesus teach us about the Sabbath?
Jesus came to teach us about the Sabbath when he was with us. The Jews had placed so many restrictions on the Sabbath commandment that it had become a burden to the people and was nearly impossible to keep (Luke 13:14; John 5:10-18; 9:16; etc). Jesus taught us that this was not the purpose of the Sabbath.
(1) He taught us that the Sabbath was made for mankind and that mankind was not created for the Sabbath (Mark 2:27).
Jesus came to teach us that (2) He is the Lord of the Sabbath and that this is the Lord's Day (Mark 2:28)
Jesus came to (3) teach us that it is ok to enjoy the Sabbath and to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14)
(4) Jesus taught and fellow shipped with his people on the Sabbath (Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56).
Similar verses can be shown for the apostles after the death of Jesus (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)
HEB 4
King James Bible
A Sabbath-Rest for God's People
(Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 16:22-36)
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limited a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Key Scripture points
· Fear that the promise being left us any of us should fall short of entering God’s rest (v1)
· The Gospel was preached to the people in the Wilderness as well as us. The Word did not profit those in the wilderness because of their unbeliefit (v2)
· For we which have believed do enter into His Rest. The people in the wilderness that did not believe God did not enter into His Rest even though works were finished from the foundation of the world (v3)
· Speaking of the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath and the last day of the creation week (Gen 2:1-3) (v4)
· God’s rest (Gen 2:1-3), those that believe enter into God’s 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath rest those that do not believe do not enter into God’s 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath rest (v5-6)
· Harden not your heart in unbelief (v7-8)
· There is a rest for the people of God (v9)
· Those that enter into God’s rest cease from works as God did v10
· We should labour to enter into God’s rest (Gen 2:1-3) faith in God’s Word (rest through believing God) v11
· The Word of God is powerful. v12
Please go back and look at the Greek meaning of the word "rest" used in Heb 4:9 its meaning is resting through keeping of a Sabbath or Sabbath observance. (I have provided Greek links below)
“There remaineth therefore a [Sabbath] rest [SUP]4520[/SUP] to the people of God.” (NAS; Heb 4:9)
The Greek word literally means “Sabbath keeping” or “Sabbath observance.” (links below)
Strong's Concordance 4520
sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Short Definition: a Sabbath rest
Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
Strong's Greek 4520
σαββατισμὸς — 1 Occ.
Hebrews 4:9N-NMS
GRK: ἄρα ἀπολείπεται σαββατισμὸς τῷ λαῷ
NAS: there remains a Sabbath rest for the people
KJV: therefore a rest to the people
INT: Then remains a sabbath rest to the people
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 4520: σαββατισμός
σαββατισμός, σαββατισμου, ὁ (σαββατίζω to keep the sabbath); 1. a keeping sabbath. 2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians (R. V. sabbath rest): Hebrews 4:9. (Plutarch, de superstit. c. 3; ecclesiastical writings.)
So let’s pull Hebrews 4:1-12 all together?
The context is God’s rest from the week of creation on the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day of the creation week (Heb 4:1-5). Those that did not enter into God’s rest (7th Day Sabbath) did not enter in because of their unbelief and disobedience (sins) to God’s Word. The Gospel was preached unto them but they did not believe it (Heb 4:2). God did not give them His true rest (Heb 4:5-8). This is the same warning for those that disobey Him and do not follow His Word. Only those that believe and obey God’s Word enter into his 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath rest (Heb 4:6, 9, 10-12). So as you can see Hebrews 4:1-12are not answering the earlier questions. In fact these scriptures support and talk about God’s 7[SUP]th[/SUP] Day Sabbath those that entered into God’s rest and those that did not.
This post has not even considered the posts in relation to God's Law which is another topic showing the same as what is posted here. Ok I have answered your question can you answer mine now while I go rest?
Can anyone show me one bible verse that says that the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day?
That says the seventh day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?
Hope this helps.
God bless
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I will repeat it 1000 times if necessary....it is IMPOSSIBLE....JESUS begins it, JESUS finishes it and COMPLETES the work of faith he starts....to say one can be saved and then can lose it denies the fact that it is Christ that STARTS it and FINISHES IT...BY DEFAULT they are calling JESUS a LIAR and saying he WILL not KEEP his promise, finish what he started and has no power to do so.......end of story!
It's simple - Christians are not under the law of Moses which includes the 10 commandments which includes the Sabbath keeping as outlined in the Old Covenant. We see the picture of resting from Gen. 2.
Christ Himself is the substance of what are types and shadows in the Old Testament which includes the 10 commandments including the Sabbath day rest. Col. 2:16-17
Come unto Me says the Lord Jesus Christ and I will give you rest.
Christ Himself is the substance of what are types and shadows in the Old Testament which includes the 10 commandments including the Sabbath day rest. Col. 2:16-17
Come unto Me says the Lord Jesus Christ and I will give you rest.
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Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
as well as
Revelation 3:16-17
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
as well as
Revelation 3:16-17
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Well I was about to sleep but could not help myself... ok just for you to help you with Col 2:16-17 because I love you all...
The Shadow Sabbaths in God's Word that were a Shadow of things to come.. Yes I am posting all of Lev 23 so people can see what was required as part of the duties of the annual Shadow Sabbaths and how it is exactly what Paul is referring to in Col 2:17
Lev 23:1, And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
Lev 23:3, Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4, These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5, In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover (feastival).
Lev 23:6, And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread (festival) unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7, In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:8, But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:9, And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the first fruits (festival) of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11, And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev 23:12, And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:13, And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
Lev 23:14, And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:15, And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16, Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. (some of the shadow Sabbath requirements for First fruits no longer required)
Lev 23:17, Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD.
Lev 23:18, And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the LORD, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the LORD. (most of the festivals had meat and drink offerings also referred to in Col 2)
Lev 23:19, Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings.
Lev 23:20, And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the first fruits for a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to the LORD for the priest.
Lev 23:21, And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.
Lev 23:22, And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the LORD your God.
Lev 23:23, And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:24, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the "first day of the month" (NOTE: H2320 חדשׁ, chôdesh; kho'-desh; the new moon; by implication a month: - month (-ly), new moon) "shall ye have a sabbath" "(שׁבּתון, shabbâthôn, shab-baw-thone' a sabbatism or special holiday: - rest, sabbath. a memorial, A special Sabbath This Word is a different Hebrew word to that used for the 7th Day Sabbath) of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
Lev 23:25, Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:26, And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:27, Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:28, And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Lev 23:29, For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 23:30, And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
Lev 23:31, Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:32, It shall be unto you a "sabbath of rest", "(שׁבּתון, shabbâthôn, shab-baw-thone' a sabbatism or special holiday: - rest, sabbath. a memorial. Different word to 7th Day Sabbath) and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Lev 23:33, ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:34, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.
Lev 23:35, On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:36, Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:37, These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
Lev 23:38, Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
Lev 23:39, Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: "on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.""(שׁבּתון, shabbâthôn, shab-baw-thone' a sabbatism or special holiday: - rest, sabbath. a memorial. Different word used to 7th Day Sabbath. It is a special feast Sabbath)
Lev 23:40, And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days. (this is what was to be done on these feast Shadow Sabbaths)
Lev 23:41, And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.
Lev 23:42, Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:
Lev 23:43, That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Lev 23:44, And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.
All the above were called annual sabbaths because they had special connections and duty requirements with certain yearly feasts. In addition to the weekly Sabbaths (Lev. 23:3), there were seven annual, ceremonial sabbaths scattered through Israel's religious calendar. These yearly sabbaths were not directly related to the seventh-day Sabbath or the weekly cycle. These sabbaths, "beside the Sabbaths of the Lord" (Lev. 23:38), were the first and last days of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Day of Pentecost, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, and the first and last days of the Feast of Tabernacles (cf. Lev. 23:7, 8, 21, 24, 25, 27, 28, 35, 36).
Because the reckoning of these sabbaths depended on the beginning of the sacred year, which was based on the lunar calendar, they could fall on any day of the week. When they coincided with the weekly Sabbath, they were called "high days" (John 19:31). "While the weekly Sabbath was ordained at the close of Creation week for all mankind, the annual sabbaths were an integral part of the Jewish system of rites and ceremonies instituted at Mount Sinai, . . . which pointed forward to the coming of the Messiah, and the observance of which terminated with His death on the cross.
The connection with Col 2:16-17?
Lets look at it but we will look also at the context from verse 14...14 (context),"Blotting out the handwriting" (Greek = manuscript legal document G5495) of "ordinances" (G1378 δόγμα, dogma; dog'-mah = civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical ordinance) that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; So the context is the blotting out of the civil, ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws. So Paul is not talking about any of God's 10 commandments or moral law as the Greek word used is Dogma. This is the Context in verse 14 and follows on to verses 16-17
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath day(s)
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.So comparing Leviticus Chapter 23 and looking at both the Hebrew and Greek in context of Col 2:14-17 it can be clearly shown that Paul is firstly referring to new moons, food and drink offerings, holy days and ceremonial annual Sabbaths (also called high Sabbaths (John 19:31) that all have their origin and connection to the annual feasts (e.g Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of First Fruits, Blowing of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles) These were the Shadow Sabbaths referred to in Col 2:16 which were all pointing to Jesus and nailed to the cross. As the context is the ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws.
Hope this helps the faithful Bereans that want to follow God's Word
God bless you all.
The Shadow Sabbaths in God's Word that were a Shadow of things to come.. Yes I am posting all of Lev 23 so people can see what was required as part of the duties of the annual Shadow Sabbaths and how it is exactly what Paul is referring to in Col 2:17
Lev 23:1, And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
Lev 23:3, Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4, These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5, In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover (feastival).
Lev 23:6, And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread (festival) unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7, In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:8, But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:9, And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the first fruits (festival) of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11, And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev 23:12, And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:13, And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
Lev 23:14, And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:15, And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16, Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. (some of the shadow Sabbath requirements for First fruits no longer required)
Lev 23:17, Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD.
Lev 23:18, And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the LORD, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the LORD. (most of the festivals had meat and drink offerings also referred to in Col 2)
Lev 23:19, Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings.
Lev 23:20, And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the first fruits for a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to the LORD for the priest.
Lev 23:21, And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.
Lev 23:22, And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the LORD your God.
Lev 23:23, And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:24, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the "first day of the month" (NOTE: H2320 חדשׁ, chôdesh; kho'-desh; the new moon; by implication a month: - month (-ly), new moon) "shall ye have a sabbath" "(שׁבּתון, shabbâthôn, shab-baw-thone' a sabbatism or special holiday: - rest, sabbath. a memorial, A special Sabbath This Word is a different Hebrew word to that used for the 7th Day Sabbath) of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
Lev 23:25, Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:26, And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:27, Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:28, And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Lev 23:29, For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 23:30, And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
Lev 23:31, Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:32, It shall be unto you a "sabbath of rest", "(שׁבּתון, shabbâthôn, shab-baw-thone' a sabbatism or special holiday: - rest, sabbath. a memorial. Different word to 7th Day Sabbath) and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Lev 23:33, ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:34, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.
Lev 23:35, On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:36, Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:37, These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
Lev 23:38, Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
Lev 23:39, Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: "on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.""(שׁבּתון, shabbâthôn, shab-baw-thone' a sabbatism or special holiday: - rest, sabbath. a memorial. Different word used to 7th Day Sabbath. It is a special feast Sabbath)
Lev 23:40, And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days. (this is what was to be done on these feast Shadow Sabbaths)
Lev 23:41, And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.
Lev 23:42, Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:
Lev 23:43, That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Lev 23:44, And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.
All the above were called annual sabbaths because they had special connections and duty requirements with certain yearly feasts. In addition to the weekly Sabbaths (Lev. 23:3), there were seven annual, ceremonial sabbaths scattered through Israel's religious calendar. These yearly sabbaths were not directly related to the seventh-day Sabbath or the weekly cycle. These sabbaths, "beside the Sabbaths of the Lord" (Lev. 23:38), were the first and last days of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Day of Pentecost, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, and the first and last days of the Feast of Tabernacles (cf. Lev. 23:7, 8, 21, 24, 25, 27, 28, 35, 36).
Because the reckoning of these sabbaths depended on the beginning of the sacred year, which was based on the lunar calendar, they could fall on any day of the week. When they coincided with the weekly Sabbath, they were called "high days" (John 19:31). "While the weekly Sabbath was ordained at the close of Creation week for all mankind, the annual sabbaths were an integral part of the Jewish system of rites and ceremonies instituted at Mount Sinai, . . . which pointed forward to the coming of the Messiah, and the observance of which terminated with His death on the cross.
The connection with Col 2:16-17?
Lets look at it but we will look also at the context from verse 14...14 (context),"Blotting out the handwriting" (Greek = manuscript legal document G5495) of "ordinances" (G1378 δόγμα, dogma; dog'-mah = civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical ordinance) that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; So the context is the blotting out of the civil, ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws. So Paul is not talking about any of God's 10 commandments or moral law as the Greek word used is Dogma. This is the Context in verse 14 and follows on to verses 16-17
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath day(s)
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.So comparing Leviticus Chapter 23 and looking at both the Hebrew and Greek in context of Col 2:14-17 it can be clearly shown that Paul is firstly referring to new moons, food and drink offerings, holy days and ceremonial annual Sabbaths (also called high Sabbaths (John 19:31) that all have their origin and connection to the annual feasts (e.g Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of First Fruits, Blowing of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles) These were the Shadow Sabbaths referred to in Col 2:16 which were all pointing to Jesus and nailed to the cross. As the context is the ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws.
Hope this helps the faithful Bereans that want to follow God's Word
God bless you all.