Not By Works

[stonesoffire]

Is there any mention of a stony heart in the NT Magenta?

Grandpa or Grace 7 is better at this explanation than I would be. It's a new revelation yet to me. I could find that post probably that revealed this to me if absolutely needed. But would prefer another teach this.

Not all commentaries have all revelation. For us in these latter days, and for the race? We need His revelation. And He is at work!

I said revelation a lot didnt I? Lol

 

[willybob]

Who said "force?" God works in us to will and do of His good pleasure '' Philippians 2:13. He changes the will, causing us to desire Him and what He works in us.



Really, a God who CANNOT eh? What an anemic pathetic god that would be, he'd hardly be god at all!

But this is exactly what God does do to any who are converted, and salvation is not by determinative choice in the first place, it is not based upon decision; John 1:13; Romans 9:11ff; James 1:18; 1 Peter 1:3 &c. Note also Daniel 4:34ff; Proverbs 21:1; Psalm 115:3; Ezra 6:22 &c. Looks like God's Word is contrary to your decisional, determinative salvation on man's part/God CANNOT violate man's will or ways error...

Instead God is Sovereign and your teaching falls short.



So salvation is now a reward, based upon man's effort, not a gift of Grace. LOL!!!!!!!! Goodness sake man...

Greetings; i didn't say God cannot intervene, because He obviously does,, but He will not circumvent mans freewill to choose good or evil, for it is man that chooses his own destiny....I don't believe in the immutable impassable God of Plato and Augustine, but rather the God that is everlasting through time, the living God........oh, and don't forget Philip. 2-12 whereas man is to work out his own salvation with fear and trembling, coupled with verse 13, the "energeo" of God working in man, the energising power of the Holy Ghost....Its always man working together with God to bring about a covenant relationship of love, that cannot be obtained by any other means....be blessed

 

[JIMBO43]

Are you the creator? Nope. So the answer is nope you cannot create God's work.

john 14:12 says diffrent 12Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever believes in Me will also do the works that I am doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.Ephesians 2:10 | NIV


Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”Genesis 1:26 | NIV ...

 

[willybob]

Greetings; i didn't say God cannot intervene, because He obviously does,, but He will not circumvent mans freewill to choose good or evil, for it is man that chooses his own destiny....I don't believe in the immutable impassable God of Plato and Augustine, but rather the God that is everlasting through time, the living God........oh, and don't forget Philip. 2-12 whereas man is to work out his own salvation with fear and trembling, coupled with verse 13, the "energeo" of God working in man, the energising power of the Holy Ghost....Its always man working together with God to bring about a covenant relationship of love, that cannot be obtained by any other means....be blessed

ps: your understanding of the unbiblical word "sovereign" is in error.....God does not lose His Majesty because man chooses to abandon HIM of their own freewill.

 

[willybob]

Hi Willybob,

I only use scripture to define scripture. The ceremonial feast days are not part of the 10 commandments. God's Law is the foundation of the Old and New covenants and the Judgement that will judge each and everyone of us in the last days. God's Law shows us what sin is and brings us to Jesus so that we might be justified by faith. The 4th commandment, the 7th Day Sabbath is a memorial of the finished work of creation given before the fall of mankind and before any of God's Laws were given to mankind so are not a part of any Shadows and pointing to an Unfinished work. It is one of the 10 commandments and if we break it we commit sin because sin is the transgression of God's Law and the wages of sin is death (1John 3:4: Rom 6:23). It is a commandment of God just like we do not steal. It is a sign that we worship the God of creation. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and it is a sign we follow Jesus because we love him. (Mark 2:28; John 14:15)

Rev 14:7,
Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

God bless

PS I have never heard of James Strong and only follow God's Word

I agree in that the commandments still exist, however by abiding in Christ and His commandments do we keep the Sabbath rest in Him 24/7, not esteeming one day above another, but always giving thanks for all things all the time while resting in His covenant....Jesus magnified the 10 commandments, and now they are laws of the Spirit, therefore we offer up spiritual sacrifices daily unto to God, of the which Paul said is our reasonable service....the literal Sabbath day was once glorious, but only a shadow of the more Glorious Sabbath in Christ.........be blessed

 

[willybob]

I hope you are not telling me I'm going to hell.

Im not condemning anyone, just revealing the truth of scripture to you...you are the one who makes the choice as to where you go, heaven or hell, by your own works do you choose, I don't choose for you.........be blessed

 

[JIMBO43]

Greetings Jimbo......The phrase a day is as a thousand years with the Lord describes His patience, longsuffering, and desire that none should perish, but that all should come to repentance and live....Peter was not speaking in terms of a thousand year days....the OT is clear on three occasions by Moses that God created all things in 6 days......be blessed

Not possible for our world to be created n 6 days... If the book of enoch has no right in the bible then we may as well chuck out genesis as there is absolutely no way God made this earth in 6 days 4300 years ago,,, someone has got that wrong but they have got it right that we where created by God..

Stars give birth to stars and stars give birth to plannets... the earth is much older...accurate dating of objects upto 50,000 years always come back verry accurate even old swords and old metals always come back accurate within 4 thosands years they allways come back witht he same numbers...

Now just because i believe the world took longer than 6 days to form does not mean the bible is a lie... no it just means it has information in there from the wrong source. Scientist do not all seek to prove the bible wrong they seek to know the truth..

Genesis is not a book that lies its just a book that give miss information as it was written befor our knowledge had evolved..

scientist do not make the bible out to be a lie.. no no no they only comfirm that such perfection can only be created...

 

[gb9]

Im not condemning anyone, just revealing the truth of scripture to you...you are the one who makes the choice as to where you go, heaven or hell, by your own works do you choose, I don't choose for you.........be blessed

no, works do not choose between Heaven and hell. belief or unbelief determines that. thus, non-Christians are called non- believers, not non-workers.

get it right, stop being deceptive.

 

[JIMBO43]

We have 4 major distinct species on our plannet,,, japan china etc.. then white then black then jew then others like the turks seem to be verry distinctive as well as some europeans... then we have american indians that are verry distintive..

conclusion we are not all from one adam but several adams... from diffrent parts of the galaxy that have onec evolved once befor some where else back in time long befor our plannet evolved... that came to earth in the form of almino acids fossilised inside meteorites.. which despite what are friend aerial says are the building blocks of life once they mix with other elements

 

[dcontroversal]

You and others on both sides are not defending anything...you are at WAR!!! y

I imagine many lurking have gone away with...
Yeah...you know what, the world is better than this foolishness why would I want to even partake....


I am just as guilty of getting sucked into the foolishness, but no more....moving on....


Thank you.....I think not responding and clicking on this preschool rant called a thread is the best Gospel you have preached in your life.....

I like you DCON I really do, but this thread is not defending anything...it has disintegrated into irrelevance.....

Thousands of pages of 2 sides fighting each other not defending anything...

If you dislike my soapbox then you dislike Hebrews 6 which compels us to move on.....I do not see how one person has been helped by watching a duel...

God Bless...

What does....

a. Contend for the faith mean...
b. Fight the good fight as a soldier mean....
c. Paul's defense of the faith mean....
d. Take the armor of God and stand for the truth mean...

More than salvation has been discussed in this thread....probably 20 different areas of truth has been covered.....and I have received numerous messages behind the scene thanking me for this thread and truths that have been laid bare in it.....and for the record...we are at war.....the kingdom of LIGHT against the kingdom of darkness.....the truth as opposed to the lies, what is right against what is wrong.....we are to earnestly CONTEND for the FAITH (system of teaching) Did not JESUS, PAUL and other dispute daily in the synagogues, markets and streets......

Just saying.......it is never wrong to defend the truth of the bible, regardless of scope and or level of teaching......

 

[Meggido]

What does....

a. Contend for the faith mean...
b. Fight the good fight as a soldier mean....
c. Paul's defense of the faith mean....
d. Take the armor of God and stand for the truth mean...

More than salvation has been discussed in this thread....probably 20 different areas of truth has been covered.....and I have received numerous messages behind the scene thanking me for this thread and truths that have been laid bare in it.....and for the record...we are at war.....the kingdom of LIGHT against the kingdom of darkness.....the truth as opposed to the lies, what is right against what is wrong.....we are to earnestly CONTEND for the FAITH (system of teaching) Did not JESUS, PAUL and other dispute daily in the synagogues, markets and streets......

Just saying.......it is never wrong to defend the truth of the bible, regardless of scope and or level of teaching......

No, it is not wrong to defend the truth of the bible, but this thread has passed that mandate and in spades....it has turned into 2 sides fighting people.....

 

[Ariel82]

We have 4 major distinct species on our plannet,,, japan china etc.. then white then black then jew then others like the turks seem to be verry distinctive as well as some europeans... then we have american indians that are verry distintive..

conclusion we are not all from one adam but several adams... from diffrent parts of the galaxy that have onec evolved once befor some where else back in time long befor our plannet evolved... that came to earth in the form of almino acids fossilised inside meteorites.. which despite what are friend aerial says are the building blocks of life once they mix with other elements

Yeah that's unbiblical and racist....only one species., NOT FOUR...the human race came from Adam and Eve.

Don't have time to debate it.

 

[dcontroversal]

Yeah that's unbiblical and racist....only one species., NOT FOUR...the human race came from Adam and Eve.

Don't have time to debate it.

For sure from Adam and Eve, but to be even more precise the three sons of Noah and their wives

 

[BillG]

We have 4 major distinct species on our plannet,,, japan china etc.. then white then black then jew then others like the turks seem to be verry distinctive as well as some europeans... then we have american indians that are verry distintive..

conclusion we are not all from one adam but several adams... from diffrent parts of the galaxy that have onec evolved once befor some where else back in time long befor our plannet evolved... that came to earth in the form of almino acids fossilised inside meteorites.. which despite what are friend aerial says are the building blocks of life once they mix with other elements

Hi Jimbo.

How have you arrived at this conclusion and from what resource?

Not sure how your post is relevant to this thread though.

Maybe start a thread on Young Earth Creation v Old Earth Creation. Not sure if one has been started in the past though.

 

[BillG]

For sure from Adam and Eve, but to be even more precise the three sons of Noah and their wives

 

[BillG]

For sure from Adam and Eve, but to be even more precise the three sons of Noah and their wives

 

[JIMBO43]

Hi Jimbo.

How have you arrived at this conclusion and from what resource?

Not sure how your post is relevant to this thread though.

Maybe start a thread on Young Earth Creation v Old Earth Creation. Not sure if one has been started in the past though.

billy billy dont be silly.... i dont want to call you silly billy but my post illustrates that mankind does not KNOW EVERYTHING

 

[BillG]

For sure from Adam and Eve, but to be even more precise the three sons of Noah and their wives

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[BillG]

billy billy dont be silly.... i dont want to call you silly billy but my post illustrates that mankind does not KNOW EVERYTHING

I is a silly billy at times.

I was just suggesting maybe starting a new thread.

I don't know how old you are but do you remember the song "Billy don't be a hero?

 

[dcontroversal]

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HAHAH love it.....all three you posted