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1. Those who try to drive a wedge between Christ and Paul are in the flesh, not the ones who believe that Paul cannot possibly be in conflict with Christ.
2. While there may be no male nor female in the spiritual Body of Christ, in the home and in the local church, Christ -- through Paul and the apostles -- lays down what is acceptable and what is not.
3. Rejecting the teaching of the apostles regarding the roles of men and men is pure rebellion against Christ and against His Word.
2. While there may be no male nor female in the spiritual Body of Christ, in the home and in the local church, Christ -- through Paul and the apostles -- lays down what is acceptable and what is not.
3. Rejecting the teaching of the apostles regarding the roles of men and men is pure rebellion against Christ and against His Word.
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So what are my fruits.
You have never attended a Bible study at my local church, so you have no idea of what takes place but you believe you can judge me.
All the women in our congregation are loved, respected, and treated as equals.
I serve as leader/teacher, but it is open for questions and comments by both men and women.
This is according to God's word.
It is obvious that you and I disagree, but that is no reason for name calling and judging one another's fellowship with God.
The fact is we both may be wrong as to what Paul taught.
You have never attended a Bible study at my local church, so you have no idea of what takes place but you believe you can judge me.
All the women in our congregation are loved, respected, and treated as equals.
I serve as leader/teacher, but it is open for questions and comments by both men and women.
This is according to God's word.
It is obvious that you and I disagree, but that is no reason for name calling and judging one another's fellowship with God.
The fact is we both may be wrong as to what Paul taught.
Nobody is calling you names. I am, though, saying that you are spouting the foolish doctrines taught by men and not of the Holy Spirit. The doctrine that women should shut up is a doctrine taught by demons, hence 'doctrines of demons' You did not learn that from the Holy Spirit but by listening to the teachings of those demons and passed on my men. To say you are adhering to foolish doctrines is not name calling
I do not think that women have to be totally silent in Church,for it would not make sense they cannot sing.
But when the preacher is speaking concerning the word of God that the women should be silent,and do not disrupt the Church service,and that is why the Bible says they should ask their husbands at home,but the men are also to be silent,and not disrupt the Church service,but that Church must of had a problem of the women talking when the preacher was talking.
1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
1Co 11:11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
It states that when the saints come together that each one has a psalm,a doctrine,a tongue,a revelation,and an interpretation,which I believe this refers to both males and females both talking,and adding their input for greater can be learned,and blessed,when the saints all pitch in,than by the preacher alone,especially when the Bible says that we need not that any man teach us,but the Spirit will teach us,and the Holy Spirit will guide us in to all truth,and show us things to come,and if any person lacks wisdom,let them ask of God who gives to all people liberally,and upbraids not,so what the preacher can learn and know,the common pew sitter can learn and know also,whether male or female.
The saints pitching in and adding their input as a collective group is after the preacher has said what they have to say,but when they are speaking they have the floor,and the women should keep silent,but then the men are also to keep silent when the preacher is speaking,but that Church had a problem with the women,for if Paul was preaching,and the men were talking he would say men,men shut your mouths,for I speaketh,for if you talketh,you walketh,for you can talk the talk,but can you walk the walk when I boot your talking mouth out of the service,ushers escort these men out.
Men and women are to keep silent when the preacher is speaking,and not disrupt the service,and after they say,whatever they have to say,then the saints collectively can have an input,which has to include women,for they can worship God,and sing praises to Him,and God said He poured out His Spirit upon all flesh,and both men and women will prophesy,and both will speak in tongues.
But a man should lead the congregation of saints according to the authority structure on earth,but the women everywhere else can preach,teach,and prophesy,as men can do,and I am sure they can teach men also,for all people,male and female,are instructed to go preach the Gospel,and to teach them all things that Jesus instructed them to observe.
It only means that when the preacher is speaking the women should not disrupt the service by talking,for then they are usurping authority over the preacher for they have the floor,and he is the only one that gets to talk at that point,and when he speaks all be quiet,but when he has said,what he will say,then the women can talk all they want,they can sing,prophesy,add to the service as well as the men,but let the preacher sau what he has to say.
If a man or a women talks they have to have someone to talk to,and then there would be two or more people talking when the congregation is trying to hear the preacher,for they do that at movie theaters if people talk,tell them to shut up,or politely shhh,so how much more shhhhhhhhh should be had at the Church service.
But when the preacher is speaking concerning the word of God that the women should be silent,and do not disrupt the Church service,and that is why the Bible says they should ask their husbands at home,but the men are also to be silent,and not disrupt the Church service,but that Church must of had a problem of the women talking when the preacher was talking.
1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
1Co 11:11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
It states that when the saints come together that each one has a psalm,a doctrine,a tongue,a revelation,and an interpretation,which I believe this refers to both males and females both talking,and adding their input for greater can be learned,and blessed,when the saints all pitch in,than by the preacher alone,especially when the Bible says that we need not that any man teach us,but the Spirit will teach us,and the Holy Spirit will guide us in to all truth,and show us things to come,and if any person lacks wisdom,let them ask of God who gives to all people liberally,and upbraids not,so what the preacher can learn and know,the common pew sitter can learn and know also,whether male or female.
The saints pitching in and adding their input as a collective group is after the preacher has said what they have to say,but when they are speaking they have the floor,and the women should keep silent,but then the men are also to keep silent when the preacher is speaking,but that Church had a problem with the women,for if Paul was preaching,and the men were talking he would say men,men shut your mouths,for I speaketh,for if you talketh,you walketh,for you can talk the talk,but can you walk the walk when I boot your talking mouth out of the service,ushers escort these men out.
Men and women are to keep silent when the preacher is speaking,and not disrupt the service,and after they say,whatever they have to say,then the saints collectively can have an input,which has to include women,for they can worship God,and sing praises to Him,and God said He poured out His Spirit upon all flesh,and both men and women will prophesy,and both will speak in tongues.
But a man should lead the congregation of saints according to the authority structure on earth,but the women everywhere else can preach,teach,and prophesy,as men can do,and I am sure they can teach men also,for all people,male and female,are instructed to go preach the Gospel,and to teach them all things that Jesus instructed them to observe.
It only means that when the preacher is speaking the women should not disrupt the service by talking,for then they are usurping authority over the preacher for they have the floor,and he is the only one that gets to talk at that point,and when he speaks all be quiet,but when he has said,what he will say,then the women can talk all they want,they can sing,prophesy,add to the service as well as the men,but let the preacher sau what he has to say.
If a man or a women talks they have to have someone to talk to,and then there would be two or more people talking when the congregation is trying to hear the preacher,for they do that at movie theaters if people talk,tell them to shut up,or politely shhh,so how much more shhhhhhhhh should be had at the Church service.
P
I agree brother.
That is exactly how we conduct our service.
In most local churches that I am familiar with, the women are much more in fellowship with God than the men.
If it were not for these women many of these churches would not exist.
I thank God for them as well as those in the local church I serve as pastor for their input into our Bible studies.
They understand God's order and praise Him for their exalted place as mothers and teachers of other women and children.
And by the way, I have NEVER preached nor taught that women are to be silent in church.
It's all about God's appointed order.
That is exactly how we conduct our service.
In most local churches that I am familiar with, the women are much more in fellowship with God than the men.
If it were not for these women many of these churches would not exist.
I thank God for them as well as those in the local church I serve as pastor for their input into our Bible studies.
They understand God's order and praise Him for their exalted place as mothers and teachers of other women and children.
And by the way, I have NEVER preached nor taught that women are to be silent in church.
It's all about God's appointed order.
Well you should read and study this a little more closely. Please note carefully that ALL the Christian churches are being taught, and have been taught the same thing for 2 millennia:
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. (v 33)
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. (v 37)
So now that we have these Scriptures before us, should we expect you to retract your previous statements and wholeheartedly embrace the commandments of the Lord?
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. (v 33)
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. (v 37)
So now that we have these Scriptures before us, should we expect you to retract your previous statements and wholeheartedly embrace the commandments of the Lord?