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When it comes to history, you can't follow me because you give the appearance that you haven't taken the time to study history, so I won't waste my time on history you don't know. The word God is a title of a position of an divined power or authority, therefore there is no differences between the title and the divined power or authority, as the nature of both is divined, how can the begotten one be God, as God is begotten of no one ? How can the begotten one be God, can God be sent ? If the begotten one was God, why did he talk to himself, why did he pray to himself, if the begotten was God, why did he say he could nothing of himself ? If he was God, he could do anything, if he was God, he would have known all things.
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If you were looking for answers that would be great, however I still believe your intent is to destroy, I must say that you are not as foolish as others has been on here, perhaps you want to grow in understanding and yet maybe you are just more clever than others, perhaps you are a clever foot soldier.
My specialist study for my degree was early church history. But I don't follow your history, It is nonsense
The Son was eternally begotten of the Father. Therefore both Father and Son are eternal. Jesus is described as 'God only begotten'.
Yes, by God.
It as in His manhood that He prayed to His Father
Because no member of the Triune God can do anything by Himself. He was saying that His Father and He worked as one. God works with God.
He could.
Except when He deliberately emptied Himself.
The Son was eternally begotten of the Father. Therefore both Father and Son are eternal. Jesus is described as 'God only begotten'.
Yes, by God.
It as in His manhood that He prayed to His Father
Because no member of the Triune God can do anything by Himself. He was saying that His Father and He worked as one. God works with God.
He could.
Except when He deliberately emptied Himself.
One thing is to attack what is believed. You do it.
On the other hand, I have no idea what alternative do you have instead of Trinity. What you presented contradicted Scriptures from the beginning.
So, do you have any holding alternative that has meaning or do you just do not like the Trinity concept, but have nothing instead of it?
For example, you started with "the Son is not God", which is against the Bible.
On the other hand, I have no idea what alternative do you have instead of Trinity. What you presented contradicted Scriptures from the beginning.
So, do you have any holding alternative that has meaning or do you just do not like the Trinity concept, but have nothing instead of it?
For example, you started with "the Son is not God", which is against the Bible.
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Where does scriptures record, Jesus saying, I am God ? It doesn't ! Some say because Jesus said, I am, that he was saying he was God but is that the case ? John 14:24 and the word which you hear is not mine ( so when he said I am, those words was not his own words, so who's words did he speak ) but the Father's which sent me. ( does scriptures teach that Jesus is the Father himself ? No!
Therefore his Father is the ( I am ) ( when he said, the word which you hear is not mine, did he lie ? No !
Therefore his Father is the ( I am ) ( when he said, the word which you hear is not mine, did he lie ? No !
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Where does scriptures record, Jesus saying, I am God ? It doesn't ! Some say because Jesus said, I am, that he was saying he was God but is that the case ? John 14:24 and the word which you hear is not mine ( so when he said I am, those words was not his own words, so who's words did he speak ) but the Father's which sent me. ( does scriptures teach that Jesus is the Father himself ? No!
Therefore his Father is the ( I am ) ( when he said, the word which you hear is not mine, did he lie ? No !
Therefore his Father is the ( I am ) ( when he said, the word which you hear is not mine, did he lie ? No !
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I do not seek to destroy anyone, my intent to challenge what is posted, to get other to step outside the box thinking, to think with an open mind not a controlled mind. One must read scriptures and let the scriptures walk them back in history, that they may walk through history to where they are but most study scriptures but don't study the historical parts, to study one but not the other is foolish.