The book of Revelation

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Locutus

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Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

I'll get back to you shortly on this...:p
 
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Please don't just paste walls of text... OK? I've already got 6 books on Revelation. I don't need more.
 
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Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

I'll get back to you shortly on this...:p
cya in 2000 years :D
 
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Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

I'll get back to you shortly on this...:p
LOL The Gilligan’s Island shortly?………. 3 hours turns into ten years and a million episodes later?

I think an interesting way to start is to look at why he signified the revelation in a book that we call Revelation . I think it would provide the poetic language of God to give us His spiritual understanding hid from the lostby and through the various parables

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Shortly come to pass (twinkling of the eye) is speaking from the perspective of the last day, the Lord ’s Day.(verse 10) I would offer it could be a picture of the end of time

The voice of the last trumpet

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. Rev 1:10

Same Lord’s day as Philippians below …called the day of Jesus Christ

Phi 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
The same grace that began the good work in Titus . "The Lord’s day"

2Co 8:6 Insomuch that we desired Titus, that as he had begun, so he would also finish in you the same grace also.
 
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Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

I'll get back to you shortly on this...:p
I really hope you are not going to explain to us how you have spent years of study, know exactly what it says, and we are never, never, to disagree with you.
 

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2 Peter 3

1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.



By that time frame.. we are only a few days ahead... I guess in our mortal vessels time is a different matter.
 

Locutus

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I think it should be renamed the Book of Speculation...:p
 

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By oldhermit

1. The purpose of the revelation was to reveal "things that must shortly come to pass" or "things it behooves to occur with speed" or "things that must come to pass quickly."

a. Word meanings

* δεῖ - must, behooves - an imperative as in something that is binding, something that has to be. The same word is used in 1Timothy 3:2 regarding the qualifications of elders. "An elder must..."
* τάχει - relative to time, it refers to something that is to happen soon, shortly, quickly, in haste, in a short time to come, thus something that is limited to a brief space of time. (See Acts 12:7; 22:18 and 1Timothy 3:14)

b. Generalizations

* This is meant to put the world of human experience into a revealed context of divine purpose. These events are not just the result of random, out of control events resulting in unknown consequences.
* To show us that man's world is NOT governed by kings and rulers of nations but by the Almighty. God is in control, even when things appear to be the most out of control.
* To teach us that human experiences, no matter how terrible they may be, are ephemeral and are not determinate.
* To teach Christians (specifically those of first century Asia) that having to endure horrific suffering and even death are not matters for concern.

2. "Signified it by his angel" - ἐσήμανεν means to signify or set forth in symbols or in signs, to reveal something through the use of signs. Thus, the revelation comes as a set of revealed symbols. The revelation was received by John in a series of visual and linguistic forms which John then conveys to the Church as a set of linguistic symbols – words. John will be shown visions and these visions will be explained. The explanations assigned to these visions will provide a revealed interpretation of their meaning. This is to give understanding to John and to the seven Churches in Asia concerning the things which were about to come upon them.
 
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miknik5

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I think it should be renamed the Book of Speculation...:p
This is what you "got back to us" with?


revelation 1:1 says it all


the revelation of _______
 

stonesoffire

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Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

I'll get back to you shortly on this...:p
shortly:
G5034
τάχος
tachos
Thayer Definition:
1) quickness, speed
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from the same as G5036

Doesn't tachnometer come from this word?

It sounds like...when you press the gas pedal, is when it begins to go. Steadily to the destination.

 

Locutus

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I think Tachos comes from Mexican fast food joints Stones....:p
 

Locutus

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I'm not so keen on Thayer's Stones:

Strongs

G5034 tachos takh'-os

from the same as G5036;

a brief space (of time), i.e. (with G1722 prefixed) in haste.


KJV: + quickly, + shortly, + speedily.
 

stonesoffire

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I didn't realize I was posting from Thayers...thought it was Strongs. But, I don't see any discrepancy.

When it starts it will be brief. Is how I see it. But, could be wrong...am often that way. :)
 

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I didn't realize I was posting from Thayers...thought it was Strongs. But, I don't see any discrepancy.

When it starts it will be brief. Is how I see it. But, could be wrong...am often that way. :)
Thayer's is not that different from Strong's. The difference between Thayer and Strong is that Thayer is more comprehensive in showing how, why, and under what grammatical circumstances a word can be translated in a particular way.
 

Shilo

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To determine what something in revelation is referring to other scriptures are used. We should look in the gospels where Jesus talked about "shortly.[SUP]16 [/SUP]“In a little while, you will see me no more; then, a little while later, you will see me.” [SUP]17 [/SUP]At this, some of the talmidim said to one another, “What is this that he’s telling us, ‘In a little while, you won’t see me; then, a little while later, you will see me’? and, ‘I am going to the Father’?” [SUP]18 [/SUP]They went on saying, “What is this ‘little while’? We don’t understand what he’s talking about.”[h=1]John 16[/h]
 

Locutus

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We need to take into consideration with Rev 1:1 the following:

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Strongs

G1451 eggus eng-goos'

from a primary verb agcho (to squeeze or throttle; akin to the base of G43);

near (literally or figuratively, of place or time).
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If we project both Rev 1:1 and Rev 1:3 far into the future we end up making the statements some what meaningless and end up with eggus as well as tachos on our faces so to speak...:p


 

stonesoffire

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We need to take into consideration with Rev 1:1 the following:

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Strongs

G1451 eggus eng-goos'

from a primary verb agcho (to squeeze or throttle; akin to the base of G43);

near (literally or figuratively, of place or time).
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If we project both Rev 1:1 and Rev 1:3 far into the future we end up making the statements some what meaningless and end up with eggus as well as tachos on our faces so to speak...:p


lol...whose throwing them there eggs. haha...