This whole discussion is based on a simple miss-understanding of life principles.
1. Behaviour is governed by emotional loyalties, cultural behaviour, moral outlooks
2. Guilt or desire for change is raised by failure within moral frameworks and expectations
If one claims God is not concerned with these issues, though all His pronouncements address
behaviour and guilt for failure, then claiming this freedom from following any principles or precepts
is saying behaviour does not matter.
As soon as you say, no behaviour does matter, then one accepts rules and principles, because to
say behaviour matters means one has accepted a way of measuring behaviour and classing it into
good behaviour and bad behaviour.
It is impossible, impossible, impossible to hold behaviour is not something God is concerned about and
then still say moral frameworks matter.
I have to rank this contradiction into the world of either people are toooooo stupid to understand what
they are talking about, or they are happy to contradict their own ideas, or they are so emotionally conflicted
rational discussion on this subject is impossible ( ie they are slightly mad )
So it is either
1. Stupid
2. Emotionally conflicted
3. Mad
In my most charitable moments I conclude option 2 is applicable.
And people caught here are like flat earthers, evidence is irrelevant because they reject anything
as the enemy which contradicts their own convictions.
Now I know mad people, who have solid convictions about lots of things that are just inventions
of their mind, so it is not an insult, but a reality one has to face.
How do you know when someone falls into this catagory?
They get very upset when you show them they are wrong, angry, insulted, annoyed, and desire to
attack and literally destroy you.
And choose almost any subject in life and you will find a scale where everyone falls on it, including
Mr Trump, lol.