How can you really really really know you are saved?
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Well of course - I wus just using the IOW in a strictly literal sense....
And like I said, it most likely varies from person to person - ask yerself this, why did Paul not explain it further rather than giving a "pat" statement.
And like I said, it most likely varies from person to person - ask yerself this, why did Paul not explain it further rather than giving a "pat" statement.
And that is how it should be. Please note carefully and believe it (1 John 5:13).
King James Bible
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
So Christians should simply read John's first epistle and see for themselves that there are at least 5-10 evidences of being saved. If the Holy Spirit bears witness with their spirit that they are sons of God, then that settles the issue.
King James Bible
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
So Christians should simply read John's first epistle and see for themselves that there are at least 5-10 evidences of being saved. If the Holy Spirit bears witness with their spirit that they are sons of God, then that settles the issue.
2 Corinthians 5
6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7(For we walk by faith, not by sight 8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
I think we are to believe to the saving of our souls.. run the race in our Liberty under Grace.. Faithful unto death...
Then receive the right to the Tree of life when He comes.
believing and knowing He is Faithful who promised and is able to Keep us from falling.. knowing we are His and following Him.. on the path of righteousness... walking in His light..
until we come to the judgement seat of Christ let us not be highminded but labour in love.. to be accepted by Him.
6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7(For we walk by faith, not by sight 8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
I think we are to believe to the saving of our souls.. run the race in our Liberty under Grace.. Faithful unto death...
Then receive the right to the Tree of life when He comes.
believing and knowing He is Faithful who promised and is able to Keep us from falling.. knowing we are His and following Him.. on the path of righteousness... walking in His light..
until we come to the judgement seat of Christ let us not be highminded but labour in love.. to be accepted by Him.
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No, he really doesn't. It's not a "need." If it was a need, many of us (if not everyone) would have died young from not getting the need met.
It's not something anyone but God can get through to us about. And since the Jesus is the one who gathers, and he gathers all the ones the Father gives him, and loses not one, all this is in his hands. Not ours.
We can quote the entire Bible and debate every single verse. In the end, it is still God who does the work to get his people to be his people. Not our long discourse.
You're in your 70s. Honestly, has anyone ever convinced you that you're saved yet? Judging from what you've written, not yet. So, if you haven't been convinced, how are you planning on convincing someone else?
And, I'm the other way. I am absolutely convinced. Still can't convince anyone else. God convinced me, not man. And it took him decades to do that.
So, nope. Really don't see how anyone will be able to convince someone else.
It's not something anyone but God can get through to us about. And since the Jesus is the one who gathers, and he gathers all the ones the Father gives him, and loses not one, all this is in his hands. Not ours.
We can quote the entire Bible and debate every single verse. In the end, it is still God who does the work to get his people to be his people. Not our long discourse.
You're in your 70s. Honestly, has anyone ever convinced you that you're saved yet? Judging from what you've written, not yet. So, if you haven't been convinced, how are you planning on convincing someone else?
And, I'm the other way. I am absolutely convinced. Still can't convince anyone else. God convinced me, not man. And it took him decades to do that.
So, nope. Really don't see how anyone will be able to convince someone else.