Not By Works
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...xox...but many of people say that one must do good works to maintain salvation, which equals out to the same thing.
of course doing good works are a huge part of every believer's life, but not to " maintain " salvation, to " prove salvation by works". both of these concepts, which we see here on a regular basis, are works salvationism, no matter how they try to explain that it's not.
of course doing good works are a huge part of every believer's life, but not to " maintain " salvation, to " prove salvation by works". both of these concepts, which we see here on a regular basis, are works salvationism, no matter how they try to explain that it's not.
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john 6, do not seek for food which perishes but f D which nudges to eternal life, which I will give you because god has set his seal on me, whoever eats this food will NEVER hunger and NEVER thirst, all he father gives to me WILL come to me and whoevecomes I will by no means cast out, the will of the father is whoever comes will never be lost, and he will raise it on the last day, everyone who sees and believes HAS eternal life, and I will raise them on the last day,
john 4' whoever drinks this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water I shall give him will never thirst, but the water I give him will be a fountain of living water springing up to eternal life,
as as you can see in these two passages, the drinking and eating of food water, bread flesh whatever term jesus used, is living food, whoever eats it will never hunger or thirst, it is also said, it will endure forever springing t eternal life,
the context is that we will never again thirst or hunger for the knowledge of where we will spend eternity. It is assured, unlike the food which the Jewish fathers ate (mana) who ate and died whoever eats that fspiritual food will live for rever,
this is talking it about the gospel,
matt 5 is talking about hungering father r spiritual things as we grow in Christ, not for food which we must eat to gain eternal life, huge contrast in context, and meanings.
One again speaks of justificarion (eternal salvation) the other speaks of sanctification (Christian growth)
again, we see where we have the root of our discussion based on different things, I am talking about eternity. Your talking about spiritual maturity or Christian growth,
predesrination is a biblical term, god said we were predestin s, that is not a Calvin thing it says god chose us before time began to b conformed to his image that is not a Calvin thing,
calvin said we are savd not be free will, but by gods election, I disagree
calvine states double predestination, I disagree,
again, let's look at what I say, not what some man who has been dead for along time says, maybe then you will not have any questions, all I said was what the word of God said,
I believe eve god chose us based on forknowledge, forknowledge of what? That God knew his son would come, he would fulfill the law, he would then offer eternal life, and he knew who would accept, and who would reject, and he chose, based on that knowledge he would save whoever he knew would believe.
i said this earlier, I think it is like prophesy, God knew Jesus would come 69 weeks after the command to restore Jerusalem he did come to the date, when he come and entered, Gods foreknowledge was proven correct, because god knows,
god knew EG back in the 1970's would come to repentance and call out to god for mercy so God would give him all the things he promised he would give, on that date back in my church (I remember it like it was yesterday just not the date..lol) that prophesy so to speak was fulfilled. On that date, I did what God knew thousands of years ago, I would do, and this is the basis for how I was predestined.
calvinism teaches god chose you, so you will believe, God did not chose you, you will never believe, free will is removed, I reject that,
i hope and pray pray this makes sense, I know. Can get wordy..
john 4' whoever drinks this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water I shall give him will never thirst, but the water I give him will be a fountain of living water springing up to eternal life,
as as you can see in these two passages, the drinking and eating of food water, bread flesh whatever term jesus used, is living food, whoever eats it will never hunger or thirst, it is also said, it will endure forever springing t eternal life,
the context is that we will never again thirst or hunger for the knowledge of where we will spend eternity. It is assured, unlike the food which the Jewish fathers ate (mana) who ate and died whoever eats that fspiritual food will live for rever,
this is talking it about the gospel,
matt 5 is talking about hungering father r spiritual things as we grow in Christ, not for food which we must eat to gain eternal life, huge contrast in context, and meanings.
One again speaks of justificarion (eternal salvation) the other speaks of sanctification (Christian growth)
again, we see where we have the root of our discussion based on different things, I am talking about eternity. Your talking about spiritual maturity or Christian growth,
predesrination is a biblical term, god said we were predestin s, that is not a Calvin thing it says god chose us before time began to b conformed to his image that is not a Calvin thing,
calvin said we are savd not be free will, but by gods election, I disagree
calvine states double predestination, I disagree,
again, let's look at what I say, not what some man who has been dead for along time says, maybe then you will not have any questions, all I said was what the word of God said,
I believe eve god chose us based on forknowledge, forknowledge of what? That God knew his son would come, he would fulfill the law, he would then offer eternal life, and he knew who would accept, and who would reject, and he chose, based on that knowledge he would save whoever he knew would believe.
i said this earlier, I think it is like prophesy, God knew Jesus would come 69 weeks after the command to restore Jerusalem he did come to the date, when he come and entered, Gods foreknowledge was proven correct, because god knows,
god knew EG back in the 1970's would come to repentance and call out to god for mercy so God would give him all the things he promised he would give, on that date back in my church (I remember it like it was yesterday just not the date..lol) that prophesy so to speak was fulfilled. On that date, I did what God knew thousands of years ago, I would do, and this is the basis for how I was predestined.
calvinism teaches god chose you, so you will believe, God did not chose you, you will never believe, free will is removed, I reject that,
i hope and pray pray this makes sense, I know. Can get wordy..
Something they all seem to miss is this....The seed was sowed onto all 4 soils, but conditions rose up later that changed their heart condition....and how they received and then rejected the word
The seed is Jesus....the sower was Jesus and he was sowing himself.... the sowers today are ministers of the Gospel who sow Jesus into the hearts of people......
The seed is Jesus....the sower was Jesus and he was sowing himself.... the sowers today are ministers of the Gospel who sow Jesus into the hearts of people......
