We choose Jesus or Jesus choose us

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Jackson123

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Both. You see both in the Bible. The thief chose Jesus and Jesus chose the thief to enter heaven. Thanks. God bless. :)

Jesus die for all whosoever believe, include both thief, but one of the thief choose to believe in Him, other not.
 
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Jesus die for all whosoever believe, include both thief, but one of the thief choose to believe in Him, other not.
So Jesus paid the debt of sin for the other thief but put him in hell to pay for something already paid in full? Wow. Didn't know God was unjust like that, to have someone pay a debt He already paid which means they owe nothing.
 

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So Jesus paid the debt of sin for the other thief but put him in hell to pay for something already paid in full? Wow. Didn't know God was unjust like that, to have someone pay a debt He already paid which means they owe nothing.
there is requirement as John 3:16 said, whosoever believe will be save. His die on the cross enough to pay for every body sinned. So if one not believe will be wasting.

there is requirement as John 3:16 said
 
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Jesus die for all whosoever believe, include both thief, but one of the thief choose to believe in Him, other not.
You are getting confused when I am talking about the thief on the cross. I am talking about the one who was saved and not the other one. Again, that thief chose Jesus and Jesus chose him. Thanks. God bless. :)
 

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You are getting confused when I am talking about the thief on the cross. I am talking about the one who was saved and not the other one. Again, that thief chose Jesus and Jesus chose him. Thanks. God bless. :)
Yep, I agree
 

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And there we have it folks. Jackson, you do not understand the Gospel. You're preaching "another gospel" Galatians 1:8-10.
so the real gospel said Holy Spirit not guide you?
 
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Ok, now I am confused. So you asked a question did the thief choose Jesus or did Jesus choose him, at first you said it could only be one or the other but not both. Now you are saying that you agree with me. What?
 
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so the real gospel said Holy Spirit not guide you?
I never said that and you know it. The Gospel doesn't have a list of things we must do to get to heaven after being saved.

But you do.

You do not understand the Gospel nor Scripture. In fact, your doctrine is false and frankly, dangerous.
 

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Ok, now I am confused. So you asked a question did the thief choose Jesus or did Jesus choose him, at first you said it could only be one or the other but not both. Now you are saying that you agree with me. What?
I do not say could only one.
 
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So Jesus didn't really save me, He didn't get me to heaven. There are more things I have to do to help Jesus save me and I'll get the list of these things after, um, being "saved."
 

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I never said that and you know it. The Gospel doesn't have a list of things we must do to get to heaven after being saved.

But you do.

You do not understand the Gospel nor Scripture. In fact, your doctrine is false and frankly, dangerous.
what do you think matt 25. Wha do you think John 3:16 what do you think of john 15
 

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So Jesus didn't really save me, He didn't get me to heaven. There are more things I have to do to help Jesus save me and I'll get the list of these things after, um, being "saved."
after being save?