Sabbath

[JaumeJ]

Judaism is an invention of man, just as are all named theologies. The Sadducees and the Pharisees were the first of these theologies putting forth each's rabbinical teachings in lieu of the Word.

Look at the Chassidic Jews today. Their garb and and their teachings are way off of the words of Torah, but do not say anything to them.

Reform Jews, Orthodox Jews, Jews for Jesus, Hebrew Roots, all as theologies cannot escape the definition of being sects. This holds true with the theologies under the umbrella called Christianity also.

Jesus Christ, Yeshua, teaches the faith of Abraham, nothing more, nothing less , in His Gosepl.

Today I skimmed over titles in YouTube, and one of the titles was, the Ever-Growing kChristianity. It should be titled the Ever-Growing Apostasy..............and so it goes.

Believe Jesusw Christ, learn how the law is now from His example and teaching, and do as best you are given as did He, and you cannot go worng.

Jesus Christ is Lord, God, and Savior, amen

 

[JohnTalmid]

John are you part of Talmidi Judaism?

Your reference is Talmudic Judaism, and would make me of the many different Jewish religious beliefs. No I don't practice this religious belief. There is some knowledge to gain from studying the Talmudic interpretation of the Torah but they where very wrong in their interpretation many times according to the Messiah.

 

[loveme1]

Your reference is Talmudic Judaism, and would make me of the many different Jewish religious beliefs. No I don't practice this religious belief. There is some knowledge to gain from studying the Talmudic interpretation of the Torah but they where very wrong in their interpretation many times according to the Messiah.

Talmidaism, World Fellowship of Followers of the Way, Talmidi Judaism

There is a Talmidi sect.. which is quite shocking to read...

So you are here teaching the New Testament according to GOD's Son Yahshua?

For then all my conversations with you prior have been about the Law of Faith which is GOD's New Covenant for all who Believe.

The Talmid and unsure of whether you are a Christian should be set aside it seems.

 

[JohnTalmid]

Your reference is Talmudic Judaism, and would make me of the many different Jewish religious beliefs. No I don't practice this religious belief. There is some knowledge to gain from studying the Talmudic interpretation of the Torah but they where very wrong in their interpretation many times according to the Messiah.

On another note Shaul, that is Paul of the Pharisees is thought to be responsible for many modern day Talmudic Siddurs used by the majority of synagogue today. Don't judge a book by its cover comes to mind. His writing and prayers are very Messiah Yahshua even oriented. No wonder he had such a hard time struggling some of this stuff. God was working in him long before Messiah Yahshua revealed himself on the road to him.

 

[loveme1]

On another note Shaul, that is Paul of the Pharisees is thought to be responsible for many modern day Talmudic Siddurs used by the majority of synagogue today. Don't judge a book by its cover comes to mind. His writing and prayers are very Messiah Yahshua even oriented. No wonder he had such a hard time struggling some of this stuff. God was working in him long before Messiah Yahshua revealed himself on the road to him.

Anyhow, i think his conversion being recorded and how in the Holy Bible is more than enough for us to see how one went from persecuting to being persecuted for His Faith.. he gave much inspired writings yet some do not apply them correctly. Now if you love GOD and Keep His Commandments through Faith in His Son you have fallen from Grace and Christ profit you nothing.. it is Spiritual Blindness on their part but you are blind leading the blind to try and teach them what the Messiah taught.. Though GOD knows the outcome and one can not take it personally...

 

[JohnTalmid]

Anyhow, i think his conversion being recorded and how in the Holy Bible is more than enough for us to see how one went from persecuting to being persecuted for His Faith.. he gave much inspired writings yet some do not apply them correctly. Now if you love GOD and Keep His Commandments through Faith in His Son you have fallen from Grace and Christ profit you nothing.. it is Spiritual Blindness on their part but you are blind leading the blind to try and teach them what the Messiah taught.. Though GOD knows the outcome and one can not take it personally...

By faith I pursue Messiah in the Word. Really great comment." I have kept all those since I was a child..."
If Messiah had not been interrupted by the rich man he would have heard the words of life, yet he was not listening because he already knows it all.
I find it interesting that you would condemn yourself in the same way.. Wouldn't you?
Present day example?
(modern person who goes to church) Lord what must I do to inherit eternal life?
(Messiah)
You must trust me, a..
(ego centered person)
I have kept this since I was a kid.
(Messiah)
Also pick up your cross and follow me.

 

[loveme1]

By faith I pursue Messiah in the Word. Really great comment." I have kept all those since I was a child..."
If Messiah had not been interrupted by the rich man he would have heard the words of life, yet he was not listening because he already knows it all.
I find it interesting that you would condemn yourself in the same way.. Wouldn't you?
Present day example?
(modern person who goes to church) Lord what must I do to inherit eternal life?
(Messiah)
You must trust me, a..
(ego centered person)
I have kept this since I was a kid.
(Messiah)
Also pick up your cross and follow me.

Not me John.. I was ashamed how evil I had been... quite heart broken.. I would of fallen down at His feet there and then and begged for Forgiveness.. and so it was a hard Truth but one I had to hear..

Now I keep the Commandments of GOD for this is what GOD states those that Love Him do and the Messiah stated the Royal Law.. yet.. it is not a you must but a I will.. and only that comes through the heart being circumcised..

So that lad was not Keeping the Royal law.. but loved his riches above all else.. and would of behaved in ways that would not of Fullfilled the Royal law because he was not able to accept his guilt but judged himself Good..

Recently a man told me he did not need forgiveness for he had done nothing wrong.. you can not be forgiven if you do not accept your guilt but ultimately you will receive the reward of the things that you claim not to have done...

i remember a dream dream where I came in front of a golden throne.. darkness all around me and I was accused and found guilty.. felt so sad and ashamed.. I was young and not born again back then.. but my word it was dreadful... likewise those dead in trespasses will receive the wage of sin even if they judge themselves Good.. the mortal will expire and that day will come..


GOD be thanked for His Grace and Mercy through His Son Yahshua.

 

[JohnTalmid]

Secretly minds and hearts conspire to come by a thief into the Kingdom. Nobody preaches anymore know Messiah. All know Messiah Yahshua and have heard of his resurrection.

Acts.. Paul said and did...

My master's, what must I do, that I may have life?"16:30ish...

Believe on the name of our Master Y'shua Messiah, and you will have life, you and your house.
And they spoke the Word of Master YHWH to him, and to all the members of his house.

So Paul and Silas preached the name and Torah. Let's see if Paul does teach Sabbath.

Acts 17

2 And Paul, as was his custom, went in to them; and during three Sabbaths he spoke with them from the scriptures.

The "God Fearing" where those who where not Jewish but worshiped along with the Jews in synagogue. They believed in the Messiah and their Faith was perfected through their belief in my Master Y'shua the Messiah. What is Torah but the Word of Elohim in a book or scroll. Torah continued past the first Five books into proverbs, psalms, prophets of different ages. Moses testified to the Mercy of YHWH and the hard hearts of the people of Israel.

What is Torah? Instructions for correcting sinful behavior among other things, making a lamp for your path.

Now if you love GOD and Keep His Commandments through Faith in His Son, you have fallen from Grace and Christ profit you nothing..

So true but hard to follow.
Maybe, if you agree?

Now if you love GOD and Keep His Commandments through belief in His Son, and not through remembering the Father's Commands and the testimony of the Messiah, you have fallen from Grace and Christ profit you nothing..

 

[JohnTalmid]

Not me John.. I was ashamed how evil I had been... quite heart broken.. I would of fallen down at His feet there and then and begged for Forgiveness.. and so it was a hard Truth but one I had to hear..

Now I keep the Commandments of GOD for this is what GOD states those that Love Him do and the Messiah stated the Royal Law.. yet.. it is not a you must but a I will.. and only that comes through the heart being circumcised..

So that lad was not Keeping the Royal law.. but loved his riches above all else.. and would of behaved in ways that would not of Fullfilled the Royal law because he was not able to accept his guilt but judged himself Good..

Recently a man told me he did not need forgiveness for he had done nothing wrong.. you can not be forgiven if you do not accept your guilt but ultimately you will receive the reward of the things that you claim not to have done...

i remember a dream dream where I came in front of a golden throne.. darkness all around me and I was accused and found guilty.. felt so sad and ashamed.. I was young and not born again back then.. but my word it was dreadful... likewise those dead in trespasses will receive the wage of sin even if they judge themselves Good.. the mortal will expire and that day will come..


GOD be thanked for His Grace and Mercy through His Son Yahshua.

Yes yes.. I still daily fight Egocentric in my life. Often I find myself falling into line with the worlds current popular problems. It is at this time I have found going into myself and outside myself, seeking out my Master Y'shua and find Peace again... It is through the Instructions now understood given for my benefit through Love from Our God. Without first believing God we can not please Him. If we do believe that God is real we must come to understand this great gift given in Love. Shalom in Messiah John Talmid.

 

[loveme1]

Yes yes.. I still daily fight Egocentric in my life. Often I find myself falling into line with the worlds current popular problems. It is at this time I have found going into myself and outside myself, seeking out my Master Y'shua and find Peace again... It is through the Instructions now understood given for my benefit through Love from Our God. Without first believing God we can not please Him. If we do believe that God is real we must come to understand this great gift given in Love. Shalom in Messiah John Talmid.

Shalom John.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Hello dear friends...

Very Happy Sabbath to each and everyone of you! It is only because our God loves us that he gives himself for us. We did not know him but he knew us and with an everlasting love did he love us and with loving kindness does he draw us. Who shall separate us from the love of God? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. May you all be blessed in his love. As we abide in his love he will use us to share his love and through love we will find our way back to him who first loved us. To him be the glory forever and ever Amen. A very Happy Sabbath to you all (my time)

God bless you all...

 

[loveme1]

To GOD and our Lord be the glory always and forever.

 

[TMS]

Thank the Lord for the Sabbath.
Praise His name.
Isa_66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Mar_2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

The Sabbath is a wonderful gift.

 

[Dan_473]

the Sabbath is a delight!

and all the laws are a delight!

both

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, and

When men strive against each other, and the wife of one draws near to deliver her husband out of the hand of him who strikes him, and puts out her hand, and takes him by his private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.

 

[Dan_473]

There is wisdom, and delight, in all of God's words! Can I get an Amen?

 

[JaumeJ]

May all have a blessed Sabbath, holy to God. Thank you, LGF for the wonderful selection from the Word. It is a blessing.

 

[loveme1]

the Sabbath is a delight!

and all the laws are a delight!

both

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, and

When men strive against each other, and the wife of one draws near to deliver her husband out of the hand of him who strikes him, and puts out her hand, and takes him by his private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.

was the strive against one of the 10 Commandments?

I'm sure we are not permitted to do this under the New Covenant..

Remember how the Messiah taught about divorce.. how Moses permitted but now there is a tighter hold on marriage because the Law of Faith establishes Love.. so to divorce for any reason other than what the Messiah taught us means Adultery.. you have to learn of the Messiah His Testament is what we are to live by.

 

[Dan_473]

was the strive against one of the 10 Commandments?

I'm sure we are not permitted to do this under the New Covenant..

Remember how the Messiah taught about divorce.. how Moses permitted but now there is a tighter hold on marriage because the Law of Faith establishes Love.. so to divorce for any reason other than what the Messiah taught us means Adultery.. you have to learn of the Messiah His Testament is what we are to live by.

I don't understand your question, "was the strive against one of the 10 Commandments?"


Yes, Jesus taught us "For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law"

 

[Hizikyah]

Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה, “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it, and guarding his hand from doing any evil. And let not the son of the gentile who has joined himself to יהוה speak, saying, ‘יהוה has certainly separated me from His people,’ nor let the eunuch say, ‘Look I am a dry tree.’ For thus said יהוה, “To the eunuchs who guard My Sabbaths, and have chosen what pleases Me, and are holding onto My covenant: to them I shall give in My house and within My walls a place and a name better than that of sons and daughters – I give them an everlasting name that is not cut off. Also the sons of the gentile who join themselves to יהוה, to serve Him, and to love the Name of יהוה, to be His servants, all who guard the Sabbath, and not profane it, and are holding onto My covenant, them I shall bring to My set-apart mountain, and let them rejoice in My house of prayer. Their ascending offerings and their sacrifices are accepted on My altar, for My house is called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."

Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is YHWH our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."

Galatians 3:28-29, "Is there not the Yahdai as well as the Greek; Gentile? Is there not the slave as well as the freeman? Is there not the male and the female? For all of you must be in unity in Yahshua Messiah. And if you are in Messiah, then you are a seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise."

 

[JaumeJ]

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ did put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye are Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, heirs according to promise.