We choose Jesus or Jesus choose us
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Yes. Both. I was saved sitting in Patton's restaurant because I heard if you die tonight you will go to hell. I was so afraid (never felt fear like that before or again) because I knew, somehow, it was Y-shua speaking to me. I cried out Lord save me!!!! I can never tell you why G-d showed up while I was eating dinner, with my family. But in that moment I was saved because Y-shua revealed Himself to me and I know if I did not cry out I was going to go to hell. Now I have grown in Him for 25+ years. That is how I got saved anyway.
Happens all the time.
Luke 7:30
(KJV) But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
(NIV) But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.)
(ESV) but the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected the purpose of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.)
(NKJV) But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the will of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.
(NRSV) But by refusing to be baptized by him, the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected God's purpose for themselves.)
No, but man does have free will, and can choose to either accept or reject God.
Luke 7:30
(KJV) But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
(NIV) But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.)
(ESV) but the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected the purpose of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.)
(NKJV) But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the will of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.
(NRSV) But by refusing to be baptized by him, the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected God's purpose for themselves.)
No, but man does have free will, and can choose to either accept or reject God.
I think you right it is Scripture. I was raised to not believe in the Christian Jesus. But my first husband and I were invited to go to church with them so we went as friends. The pastor gave the altar call and Alexie said to me I want to go down. I looked at him like he was crazy, I did not listen to the sermon at all so I have no ideal what the pastor said. This was June 1990. And in December 12, 1990 Alexie was murdered in a robbery. My life fell apart and in February of 1991 Y-shua showed up... I did have the Word first even if I did not listen my mind / spirit heard....
One plants and one waters but G-d always gives the increase! We never know what is going to be the fruit of our witness....
LOL... What a great politician.. But neither can exist without the other... free will and predestination... It is the Great Mystery G-d left us with! Y-shua said bad happens to us all but woe unto whom the bad comes thru. Sovereignty of G-d and free will. The Scripture says G-d has predestined us unto His good works yet it also says work out your own salvation. Sovereignty of God and free will working together. Who ever is extreme one way denies the Scripture of the other. There is a mystery of a balance I do not know nor anyone else that I know of or there would not be Calvin vs Wesley.... But are we all saved ... YES!!!!
Luke 15
10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
do this verse like predestination?
one man repent Will be a big party in heaven to celebrate. If God Pre decide WHO save doesn't the celeberation party like mere theatrical drama?
it Pre decide why look joyful surprise?
