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Hello Dan, when the New Testament is written in Hebrew it is always Yahweh. Some people believe Yahweh is "too holy" to actually spell out or say. If they would be research the origin of the word, they will see it is not actually a name but the attribute of our Maker to be whatever He wants to be. Therefor Yahweh is more or less the gerund (noun) for of the verb, to be. The big difference is it means Self-existing, thus no creture may use this name or attribute in any honesty unless refering to our Maker.
When the Holy Spiriti entered in to me, I immediately told a Jewish friend that ""God's spirit came into em, your God, Yahweh." It was natural for me to say that because of my new nature, even though I was drawn by the Father to Jesus.
I prefer to call Jesus, Yeshua, but Jesus works for me with any who do not understand as I do. Perhaps comethe Kingdom I will be told I was wrong to use Yehua, but I cannot in any nearness to being honest say this will happen.
So many people will say or they wite YHWH, and tinsted of saying Yahweh, oft time they will say HaShem or the name.
Yahweh's neame is great and should be proclaimed among all people's all nations. amen
When the Holy Spiriti entered in to me, I immediately told a Jewish friend that ""God's spirit came into em, your God, Yahweh." It was natural for me to say that because of my new nature, even though I was drawn by the Father to Jesus.
I prefer to call Jesus, Yeshua, but Jesus works for me with any who do not understand as I do. Perhaps comethe Kingdom I will be told I was wrong to use Yehua, but I cannot in any nearness to being honest say this will happen.
So many people will say or they wite YHWH, and tinsted of saying Yahweh, oft time they will say HaShem or the name.
Yahweh's neame is great and should be proclaimed among all people's all nations. amen
Paul would have known these things.
Yet when he wrote Romans, he wrote "theos' in 9:6
Romans 9:6 Greek Text Analysis
unless we assume Paul wrote Romans in Hebrew, and that God did not preserve any copies.
Yet when he wrote Romans, he wrote "theos' in 9:6
Romans 9:6 Greek Text Analysis
unless we assume Paul wrote Romans in Hebrew, and that God did not preserve any copies.
If he were wrting in Greek, he most like would have, just as if it were French it would be Dieu, in Spanish Dios, in German Gott,, and so on down the line.
If you reread my post, you will see I have covered this by the context of the information.
Actually,, most translators used to translate Yahweh as I Am. It is a shame because it really does translate as The Self-Existing, but I suppose that idea was kind of foreign to most. God bless you Dan.
If you reread my post, you will see I have covered this by the context of the information.
Actually,, most translators used to translate Yahweh as I Am. It is a shame because it really does translate as The Self-Existing, but I suppose that idea was kind of foreign to most. God bless you Dan.
I have my own reasons, mainly because YHWH is being talked about. Rather than tell you my view here is MHS a MicklesonEnhancedStrongs;
G2316 θεός theos (the-os') n.
1. (properly, in Greek) a god or deity. a supernatural, powerful entity (real or imagined).
2. (by Hebraism, especially with G3588) God, the Supreme Being, the Creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Yahweh by name.
3. (figuratively) a supreme magistrate (in the land).
[of uncertain affinity]
KJV: X exceeding, God, god(-ly, -ward)
See also: G2304, G2299, G3588, H430
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 69:30, “I praise the Name of the Mighty One with a song, and I magnify Him with thanksgiving.”[/FONT]
G2316 θεός theos (the-os') n.
1. (properly, in Greek) a god or deity. a supernatural, powerful entity (real or imagined).
2. (by Hebraism, especially with G3588) God, the Supreme Being, the Creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Yahweh by name.
3. (figuratively) a supreme magistrate (in the land).
[of uncertain affinity]
KJV: X exceeding, God, god(-ly, -ward)
See also: G2304, G2299, G3588, H430
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 69:30, “I praise the Name of the Mighty One with a song, and I magnify Him with thanksgiving.”[/FONT]
Given that the Sabbath commandment is part of the Decalogue if one believes that it is no longer binding on Christians then one would have to ask the same of all 10 commandments. Is it now OK to murder our neighbor or steal from them? After all they are also part of the same 10 commandment law. The Sabbath is the memorial of creation (Ex. 20:8-11)and redemption (Deuteronomy 5:12-15). It was never done away with in the Bible. If you want to find out about how the Sabbath was changed from Sabbath to Sunday you must look at history (the 3rd century AD) and the Roman Catholic Church (Council of Laodicea) not the Bible. It was both Jesus Luke 4:16 and Paul's (Acts 13:13) custom to worship in the synagogue on the Sabbath day.
Yes, we use God for YHWh IN eNGLISH, BUT KEEP IN mind that YHWH or Yahweh is nothing more than a trnsliterabtion of the appellation God, Yahweh, gave to Moses. That is, we spell in our alphabet how His name is in Hebrew.
Also, the word, god, is not originally English either,. It can be traced back as far as Sanskrit, but its atual origin is unknown.
It seems to me a person wanting to honor our Fahter would attmpt his best to call Him by the name He gave to man, and not by a word descended from another language not havign the same meaning, but this is my thinking in honoring our Father.
Again, if you were to call Him Yahweh actuaslly translated to English it would be closest to "The Self-Existing." I think in this tranlation any time I say God or Yahweh. I do like Yahweh most of all because He is the One Who uttered it to Moses.
It is not actually a name, rather an attribute that mayu only be applied to the Maker of all that is...Yahweh.
Also, the word, god, is not originally English either,. It can be traced back as far as Sanskrit, but its atual origin is unknown.
It seems to me a person wanting to honor our Fahter would attmpt his best to call Him by the name He gave to man, and not by a word descended from another language not havign the same meaning, but this is my thinking in honoring our Father.
Again, if you were to call Him Yahweh actuaslly translated to English it would be closest to "The Self-Existing." I think in this tranlation any time I say God or Yahweh. I do like Yahweh most of all because He is the One Who uttered it to Moses.
It is not actually a name, rather an attribute that mayu only be applied to the Maker of all that is...Yahweh.
Dan, did you know that until 1505, that is fifteen centuries, the Bible, as translated until that time, had Moses coming down from the mount with horns protruding from his head? This is why Michael Angelo's rendition of Moses has Moses with horns. The word for horns is very similar to the word for rays, and so the error was perpetuated by the RCC all of thos centuries. Here is the statue.....
There are many words yet that ar not certain as to what they actually should be translated as from all of the Holy Scriptures. We do know that our Fathers appellation is Yahweh, and in English, The Self-Existing. Yes, Paul would have known that but centuiries of rabbinical teachings in place of the Word have convinced manyu people that this appellation is too holy to pronounce. It (It's meaning) is too wonderfull not to pronoune. Do not get into contentions about words, it is the intended meaning from the user that is important. Jesus Christ is Lord. I couls just as well say Yeshua is Adoneinu.....they mean the same. God bless you, and watch out for needless disputes in this area, it tends to take people away from glorifying God....or do you say Yahweh?
There are many words yet that ar not certain as to what they actually should be translated as from all of the Holy Scriptures. We do know that our Fathers appellation is Yahweh, and in English, The Self-Existing. Yes, Paul would have known that but centuiries of rabbinical teachings in place of the Word have convinced manyu people that this appellation is too holy to pronounce. It (It's meaning) is too wonderfull not to pronoune. Do not get into contentions about words, it is the intended meaning from the user that is important. Jesus Christ is Lord. I couls just as well say Yeshua is Adoneinu.....they mean the same. God bless you, and watch out for needless disputes in this area, it tends to take people away from glorifying God....or do you say Yahweh?
Dan, did you know that until 1505, that is fifteen centuries, the Bible, as translated until that time, had Moses coming down from the mount with horns protruding from his head? This is why Michael Angelo's rendition of Moses has Moses with horns. The word for horns is very similar to the word for rays, and so the error was perpetuated by the RCC all of thos centuries. Here is the statue.....
There are many words yet that ar not certain as to what they actually should be translated as from all of the Holy Scriptures. We do know that our Fathers appellation is Yahweh, and in English, The Self-Existing. Yes, Paul would have known that but centuiries of rabbinical teachings in place of the Word have convinced manyu people that this appellation is too holy to pronounce. It (It's meaning) is too wonderfull not to pronoune. Do not get into contentions about words, it is the intended meaning from the user that is important. Jesus Christ is Lord. I couls just as well say Yeshua is Adoneinu.....they mean the same. God bless you, and watch out for needless disputes in this area, it tends to take people away from glorifying God....or do you say Yahweh?
There are many words yet that ar not certain as to what they actually should be translated as from all of the Holy Scriptures. We do know that our Fathers appellation is Yahweh, and in English, The Self-Existing. Yes, Paul would have known that but centuiries of rabbinical teachings in place of the Word have convinced manyu people that this appellation is too holy to pronounce. It (It's meaning) is too wonderfull not to pronoune. Do not get into contentions about words, it is the intended meaning from the user that is important. Jesus Christ is Lord. I couls just as well say Yeshua is Adoneinu.....they mean the same. God bless you, and watch out for needless disputes in this area, it tends to take people away from glorifying God....or do you say Yahweh?
but the meaning of "theos" is well-known, wouldn't you agree?
did you look at the reference from biblehub?
Dan, I was and always have been a studen of linguistics. First in High School, then at the U of I Champaign-Urbana, and since in my daily way and travels. I know the nature of words, the importance of etymologies, and the rampant misconstruing of so many of so much. Theos never referred to Yahweh previous to the Greeks learning of Him. It was no different than saying god. God, in itself has no relationship whatsoever with Yahweh , Elohanu, or Adoneinu, but most take it to mean the Maker fo all that is.
This does not mean the definition of god is The Self-Existing; it just means people have come to accept it as meaning such. It is a pre-Sanskrit word with no relationship to the Maker, Fathe4r of Yeshua, The Self-Existing.
This does not translate as a ondemanation of people who call the Father God in all reference of Yehua Jesus in all reverence, but these same folks who use these names in ignorance often have a tendencyi to attack others who actually know the names.
I use God, Jesus etc, but I know Who they are when I use these names. When others believe God is the Father, Yahweh, and Jesus is Yeshua, they are correct in their faith, but not linguistically. They do not need to be to be saved, but they should not argue meanings of words when they are not equipped to do so. Doing this shines bright light, but not from God, from their ignornace upon that ignorance.
I do not condemn anyone for not knowing what I know, I sure hope no one wants to condemn me for know ing what I do; that would be hyipocritical and arrogant.
This does not mean the definition of god is The Self-Existing; it just means people have come to accept it as meaning such. It is a pre-Sanskrit word with no relationship to the Maker, Fathe4r of Yeshua, The Self-Existing.
This does not translate as a ondemanation of people who call the Father God in all reference of Yehua Jesus in all reverence, but these same folks who use these names in ignorance often have a tendencyi to attack others who actually know the names.
I use God, Jesus etc, but I know Who they are when I use these names. When others believe God is the Father, Yahweh, and Jesus is Yeshua, they are correct in their faith, but not linguistically. They do not need to be to be saved, but they should not argue meanings of words when they are not equipped to do so. Doing this shines bright light, but not from God, from their ignornace upon that ignorance.
I do not condemn anyone for not knowing what I know, I sure hope no one wants to condemn me for know ing what I do; that would be hyipocritical and arrogant.
I can understand the desire to see God's name in the New Testament.
A person reads that The Name occurs almost 7,000 times in the ot.
Then zero in the nt.
The Jehovah's Witnesses also desire to have God's name in the nt.
They get around it this way:
"The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures does not follow this common practice. It uses the name Jehovah a total of 237 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures. In deciding to do this, the translators took into consideration two important factors: (1) The Greek manuscripts we possess today are not the originals. Of the thousands of copies in existence today, most were made at least two centuries after the originals were composed. (2) By that time, those copying the manuscripts either replaced the Tetragrammaton with Kyʹri·os, the Greek word for “Lord,” or they copied from manuscripts where this had already been done."
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/appendix-a/divine-name-christian-greek-scriptures/
so they say it was there, and just got removed.
A person reads that The Name occurs almost 7,000 times in the ot.
Then zero in the nt.
The Jehovah's Witnesses also desire to have God's name in the nt.
They get around it this way:
"The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures does not follow this common practice. It uses the name Jehovah a total of 237 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures. In deciding to do this, the translators took into consideration two important factors: (1) The Greek manuscripts we possess today are not the originals. Of the thousands of copies in existence today, most were made at least two centuries after the originals were composed. (2) By that time, those copying the manuscripts either replaced the Tetragrammaton with Kyʹri·os, the Greek word for “Lord,” or they copied from manuscripts where this had already been done."
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/appendix-a/divine-name-christian-greek-scriptures/
so they say it was there, and just got removed.
well, as neither of us want to be contentious, can we agree on Thayer's exhaustive treatment of theos found at biblehub?
Strong's Greek: 2316. θεός (theos) -- God, a god
Strong's Greek: 2316. θεός (theos) -- God, a god
I guess we see it differently!
9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”
and whatever other commandments there are,
are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love doesn’t harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law
9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”
and whatever other commandments there are,
are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love doesn’t harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law
Not really. My faith is a figt from the Father Who drew me to Jesus Christ. All needed to know of the Word is teh Word as understood by the Holy Spirit. These so-called Biblical scholars are not the Holy Spirit nor are theyi prophecied to come to enlighten anyone.........Sorry. I do not consider myself a scholar of theWord except for what has been imparted to me by the HOly Spirit..
If i DO HAPPEN TO KNOW things from study, well, this is good, but the nly true and valuable lesson is to follow Jesus Christ and do as best given each of us to do as He did and learn of Him a we are invited by Him to do.
Even those exhaustie translations to and from Greek and Hebrew are riddled with human error, so I remain faithful to what God has provided.........the Bible as it is revealed.
If i DO HAPPEN TO KNOW things from study, well, this is good, but the nly true and valuable lesson is to follow Jesus Christ and do as best given each of us to do as He did and learn of Him a we are invited by Him to do.
Even those exhaustie translations to and from Greek and Hebrew are riddled with human error, so I remain faithful to what God has provided.........the Bible as it is revealed.
