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I'm interested in hidden gems, those deep meanings of scripture, does anybody else know any and would like to share.

heres one of my mine, about the naked young man who left his garment behind after Jesus was arrested, who was that young man, well the name isn't mentioned but I think the young man was (the widow from Nain son) that Jesus brought back to life. and the young man followed Jesus because of it. it was yet another example for the deciples to ponder on about the resurrection since they struggled with understanding it, Jesus did things for reasons and clues for it to dawn of others.


Clue, the linen cloth lying there.

John 20: 4-5
4 Both of them were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first
5 And stooping to look in, he saw the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in.


Clue, the Deciples knew who the son of the widow was but didn't yet quite know why that happened.

Mark 14:52

52 but he left the linen cloth and ran away naked.


Deciples were present when Jesus rose the young man from the dead.

Luke 7:14

14 Then he came up and touched the bier, and the bearers stood still. And he said, “Young man, I say to you, arise.”


bonus clue, nothing is mentioned of Joseph after Jesus was 12 years old, he is not mentioned again.
i believe the widow from Nain account has a few meaningful messages from it. another message per say is Jesus himself rose from the dead of coarse, but another interesting detail in the account is why the widow's son, well on the cross Jesus said to the deciple He loved, here is your mother for now on. where was Joseph why couldn't he had done what he always had did.

because Joseph had died some point when Jesus was young, and Mary was a widow like the woman from Nain.
 
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this went right over my head u see....... dont overstand! what???
 
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this went right over my head u see....... dont overstand! what???
Its ok I understand, it's like listening to new song for the first time, takes a few times to fully know the lyrics.


it was a sign a example, that Jesus already knew it would take place, for the deciples to re think of the events and put two and two together and know of what He meant when He taught the deciples about the resurrection.

jesus rising the young man from the died, the young man followed Jesus and when Jesus was arrested the young man fled leaving his linen garment behind, the left the garments behind is basically the same thing that happen when Jesus had risen, The old linen cloths was lying were He left them. the deciples knew Mary was a widow, they knew of the young man Jesus rose from the dead and the deciples saw the young man left his linen garment behind.
 

Prov910

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Mysterious naked people!
 

loveme1

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Not that no one else knows not but a little marvel at what the Priest gave Abraham...

Melchizedek King of Salem and the Priest of the Most High GOD.

Genesis 14

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And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale. 18And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.








 

tanakh

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I'm interested in hidden gems, those deep meanings of scripture, does anybody else know any and would like to share.

heres one of my mine, about the naked young man who left his garment behind after Jesus was arrested, who was that young man, well the name isn't mentioned but I think the young man was (the widow from Nain son) that Jesus brought back to life. and the young man followed Jesus because of it. it was yet another example for the deciples to ponder on about the resurrection since they struggled with understanding it, Jesus did things for reasons and clues for it to dawn of others.


Clue, the linen cloth lying there.

John 20: 4-5
4 Both of them were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first
5 And stooping to look in, he saw the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in.


Clue, the Deciples knew who the son of the widow was but didn't yet quite know why that happened.

Mark 14:52

52 but he left the linen cloth and ran away naked.


Deciples were present when Jesus rose the young man from the dead.

Luke 7:14

14 Then he came up and touched the bier, and the bearers stood still. And he said, “Young man, I say to you, arise.”


bonus clue, nothing is mentioned of Joseph after Jesus was 12 years old, he is not mentioned again.
i believe the widow from Nain account has a few meaningful messages from it. another message per say is Jesus himself rose from the dead of coarse, but another interesting detail in the account is why the widow's son, well on the cross Jesus said to the deciple He loved, here is your mother for now on. where was Joseph why couldn't he had done what he always had did.

because Joseph had died some point when Jesus was young, and Mary was a widow like the woman from Nain.
Compare the events in Eden with the events in Gethsemane. In Eden humanity was barred from the tree of life. In Gethsemane the tree of life was made available once more. Christ is the true tree of life. The naked young man represents humanity free from sin as Adam and Eve were before the fall.
 

Nehemiah6

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I'm interested in hidden gems, those deep meanings of scripture, does anybody else know any and would like to share.
One of the deep mysteries of Scripture -- which is actually called a mystery -- is the partial spiritual blindness of Israel until the total number of Gentiles are gathered into the Church.

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550 (Rom 11:25)
Οὐ γὰρ θέλω ὑμᾶς ἀγνοεῖν ἀδελφοί τὸ μυστήριον τοῦτο ἵνα μὴ ἦτε παῤ ἑαυτοῖς φρόνιμοι ὅτι πώρωσις ἀπὸ μέρους τῷ Ἰσραὴλ γέγονεν ἄχρις οὗ τὸ πλήρωμα τῶν ἐθνῶν εἰσέλθῃ

King James Bible
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

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Strong's Concordance
mustérion: a mystery or secret doctrine
Original Word: μυστήριον, ου, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: mustérion
Phonetic Spelling: (moos-tay'-ree-on)
Short Definition: anything hidden, a mystery
Definition: a mystery, secret, of which initiation is necessary; in the NT: the counsels of God, once hidden but now revealed in the Gospel or some fact thereof; the Christian revelation generally; particular truths or details of the Christian revelation.​
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kaijo

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Mark 14:52

52 but he left the linen cloth and ran away naked.


Mark 14:51-52 really IS interesting. I must've skimmed past it when i read the bible last ^^"
 

mcubed

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Not really a mystery because it is historical fact, but many people think the "cold and "hot in Rev 3 is literal to Laodicea and do not realize close to Laodicea was Corinth and Hierapolis. Corinth had cold springs that people would go to for "healing minerals" and Hierapolis had hot springs that people would go to, to soak in for it's "healing" power too Now, Corinth had the aqueduct that ran down to Laodicea but by the time the water got there it would be lukewarm. Hence, both springs well known to the people of that time knew it was not a literal cold/hot but effective.[FONT=Fanwood Text, serif] [/FONT]
 

Ahwatukee

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Not really a mystery because it is historical fact, but many people think the "cold and "hot in Rev 3 is literal to Laodicea and do not realize close to Laodicea was Corinth and Hierapolis. Corinth had cold springs that people would go to for "healing minerals" and Hierapolis had hot springs that people would go to, to soak in for it's "healing" power too Now, Corinth had the aqueduct that ran down to Laodicea but by the time the water got there it would be lukewarm. Hence, both springs well known to the people of that time knew it was not a literal cold/hot but effective.
Greetings mcubed,

Forgive me, but your interpretation regarding hot and cold springs has no place in the context. Rather, the letter is addressed to Laodician church and not to Corinth or Hierapolis. The context is clear in that it is a rebuke regarding the spiritual state of that church, because they were Luke warm in regards to their faith and that because they were rich materially which is what they were trusting in. It has nothing to do with natural mineral springs.

"So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth."

Regarding the verse above, why would Jesus spit them out of his mouth (reject them) if this issue was about hot and cold springs?

The reference to being lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, is in regards to their poor spiritual state. You should do a thorough study before teaching such things.
 
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Going by the principle of the OT pointing forward to the cross amd the NT looking back to the cross the following has somewhat got me wondering and studying.....

When Jesus has his disciples prepare for the passover the word for unleavend bread is used in the Greek.....and when he breaks the bread the word for leavened bread is used in the Greek.....so...my question to all is......

The O.T. and unleavend bread looked forward to the sinless sacrifice and in the New do we look back to him becoming sin for us?

Hence the unleavened bread and change of words???

Does anyone else see this or your view....NOT OPINION...VIEW ON THE GREEK WORDS USED!
 
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Deuteronomy 32:8-9
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When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
when he divided mankind,
he fixed the borders[a] of the peoples
according to the number of the sons of God.
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But the Lord's portion is his people,
Jacob his allotted heritage.


so if the Most High gets Israel who exactly is it saying gets the other nations?
 

Nehemiah6

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When Jesus has his disciples prepare for the passover the word for unleavend bread is used in the Greek.....and when he breaks the bread the word for leavened bread is used in the Greek.
How did you arrive at this conclusion? Please note that it says nothing about being leavened bread:

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550 (Mt 26:26)
Ἐσθιόντων δὲ αὐτῶν λαβὼν ὁ Ἰησοῦς τὸν ἄρτον καὶ εὐλογήσας ἔκλασεν καὶ ἐδίδου τοῖς μαθηταῖς καὶ εἶπεν Λάβετε φάγετε τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ σῶμά μου
King James Bible
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

Strong's Concordance
artos: bread, a loaf
Original Word: ἄρτος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: artos
Phonetic Spelling: (ar'-tos)
Short Definition: bread, a loaf, food
Definition: bread, a loaf, food.

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 740: ἄρτος

ἄρτος, ἄρτου, (from ἈΡΩ to fit, put together (cf. Etym. Magn. 150, 36 — but doubtful)), bread; Hebrew לֶחֶם;1. food composed of flour mixed with water and baked; the Israelites made it in the form of an oblong or round cake, as thick as one's thumb, and as large as a plate or platter (cf. Winers RWB under the word Backen; (BB. DD.)); hence, it was not cut, but broken (see κλάσις and κλάω) Matthew 4:3; Matthew 7:9;Matthew 14:17, 19; Mark 6:36 (T Tr WH omit; Lbrackets), Mark 6:37; Luke 4:3; Luke 24:30; John 6:5ff;Acts 27:35, and often; ἄρτοι τῆς προθέσεως, loaves consecrated to Jehovah, see πρόθεσις; on the bread used at the love-feasts and the sacred supper (Winer's Grammar, 35), cf. Matthew 26:26; Mark 14:22; Luke 22:19; Acts 2:42, 46; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 10:16; 1 Corinthians 11:26-28.
 
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How did you arrive at this conclusion? Please note that it says nothing about being leavened bread:

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550 (Mt 26:26)
Ἐσθιόντων δὲ αὐτῶν λαβὼν ὁ Ἰησοῦς τὸν ἄρτον καὶ εὐλογήσας ἔκλασεν καὶ ἐδίδου τοῖς μαθηταῖς καὶ εἶπεν Λάβετε φάγετε τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ σῶμά μου
King James Bible
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

Strong's Concordance
artos: bread, a loaf
Original Word: ἄρτος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: artos
Phonetic Spelling: (ar'-tos)
Short Definition: bread, a loaf, food
Definition: bread, a loaf, food.

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 740: ἄρτος

ἄρτος, ἄρτου, (from ἈΡΩ to fit, put together (cf. Etym. Magn. 150, 36 — but doubtful)), bread; Hebrew לֶחֶם;1. food composed of flour mixed with water and baked; the Israelites made it in the form of an oblong or round cake, as thick as one's thumb, and as large as a plate or platter (cf. Winers RWB under the word Backen; (BB. DD.)); hence, it was not cut, but broken (see κλάσις and κλάω) Matthew 4:3; Matthew 7:9;Matthew 14:17, 19; Mark 6:36 (T Tr WH omit; Lbrackets), Mark 6:37; Luke 4:3; Luke 24:30; John 6:5ff;Acts 27:35, and often; ἄρτοι τῆς προθέσεως, loaves consecrated to Jehovah, see πρόθεσις; on the bread used at the love-feasts and the sacred supper (Winer's Grammar, 35), cf. Matthew 26:26; Mark 14:22; Luke 22:19; Acts 2:42, 46; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 10:16; 1 Corinthians 11:26-28.
Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

azumos: unleavened
Original Word: ἄζυμος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: azumos
Phonetic Spelling: (ad'-zoo-mos)
Short Definition: unleavened, the paschal feast, uncorrupted

And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body

Word: ἄρτος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: artos
Phonetic Spelling: (ar'-tos)
Short Definition: bread, a loaf, food

Two different words..two different meanings
 

p_rehbein

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Deep, hidden mysteries in the Bible.............goodness...........here we go again........sigh