I didnt even realize until recently that there exists christians who think Jesus' words are old covenant. This should be a thread of its own i think, i should make a poll about this. The thing is folks: Jesus said His words are forever, while He was alive He spoke the testament, which then came into force when He died and resurrected.
This is very clearly how a testament works, is it not? Wouldnt it be a bit deceiving of Jesus to teach the apostles all kindsa things and then flip the script so to speak and change everything where all His words dont apply no more?
Or did I misunderstand yalls view on this somehow? I really am confused on this. Do yall pick and choose what is "new covenant doctrine" and what isnt or how does it go? Im sure john 3:16 is used by yall. But why isnt the sermon on the mount "new covenant" then? Same Jesus, same time period? Help me out.
This is very clearly how a testament works, is it not? Wouldnt it be a bit deceiving of Jesus to teach the apostles all kindsa things and then flip the script so to speak and change everything where all His words dont apply no more?
Or did I misunderstand yalls view on this somehow? I really am confused on this. Do yall pick and choose what is "new covenant doctrine" and what isnt or how does it go? Im sure john 3:16 is used by yall. But why isnt the sermon on the mount "new covenant" then? Same Jesus, same time period? Help me out.
I hope this in part article will assist you Issachar to better understand this new covenant discussion. As I can't type out all the verses and commentary on all of it on one post myself. Don't listen to the bad opinions of some here who are against Christians who don't agree with them on every point.
I am one who can agree to disagree and yet still learn something. That is the way I see other Christians I admire relate and love one another who they don't agree with on every topic so I have decided to also show that kind of graciousness. I hope you and others will do the same as well.
This is not the only material on this topic not is this the only teacher or preacher I know who explains well. It's just the one I'm more familiar with. It took me a long time to learn how to maneuver around CC and still I'm not very good at it.
Elsewhere I have listed the top 12 blessings of the new covenant. The first of these is the complete and total forgiveness of all your sin – past, present and future. Other blessings include the free gift of Christ’s righteousness, holiness, indeed, his very life. All these blessings testify to God’s grace, which is one of six ways the new covenant can be distinguished from the old.
1. It’s a covenant of grace
In the old law-based covenant you reaped what you sow, but in the new we reap what Christ has sown. In the old you did to get, but in the new we get because Christ has done it all. This is grace and grace declares that all is a gift. Every spiritual blessing is ours in Jesus Christ (Eph 1:3).
2. It’s a covenant of rest
Under the old it was do, do, do, but in the new it’s done, done, done. Faith is a rest, not a work. Only when we rest in the finished work of Calvary can God begin his good work in us. And as his grace abounds, good works abound (2 Cor 9:8). Good works don’t produce faith, but faith produces good works.
The old covenant was characterized by ceaseless effort in the pursuit of holy demands that could never be met, but the new covenant is rest and peace in the Holy Spirit. Labor to enter his rest.
3. It’s a covenant of new life
Old covenant preaching will make you stupid and harden your heart to the goodness of God (2 Cor 3:14). But new covenant preaching removes the veil and reveals the Lord’s glory. As you behold him you become like him, transformed by the Holy Spirit (2 Cor 3:18).
Under the old the best you could hope for was self-improvement that never lasts. But in the new you become new (2 Cor 5:17) – a brand new person with a new heart and a new spirit. Born of the Spirit you are no more a prisoner of sin, but a co-heir with Christ.
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