Not By Works
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This a sad thread indeed. 1976 pages of Babylon (confusion). Some do not know that all our righteousness is as filthy rags and our salvation is by faith in God's Word alone. This salvation produces love and love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit. The Words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are life and if the Whosoever commits sin is a servant of sin but if the Son shall make you free you shall be free indeed. Whosoever sins has neither seen him or known him.... He that has an ear let him here what the Spirit says...
Yeah they made their own law that transgressed the Lwqs of Yah
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"
they had no love, Scripture calls Yah's ways love.
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they had no love, Scripture calls Yah's ways love.
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The bolded has been added by the working for King Jimmy translators.....
"He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
"He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
J
You are always free to post in another thread or make your own with a similar topic,I did once,wonder if anyone would be more comfortable with it though it's probably so far back that I can't find,kidding lol,I have the patience,though I do forget tge title...oh why not,I'll give it one day if it bites the dust then so be it.
Matthew 23:27-28
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 28Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 28Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Am I saved? I was saved when I was 18 years old!!!!So many people seem to know about works vs. faith…. I’ll let you decide my fate instead of G-d…
At 18 my first husband was murdered I got saved still did a lot of opiates, but at 21 I went to Bible College to know what Christians knew about Y-shua. Got clean never looked back. At 21 I was pregnant knocked up in Bible College. Got married again, got divorced, he beat me and cheated, and got some stupid woman named Summer pregnant. Was a piece of crap, had sex with any old thing for many years, then did not have sex for over seven years because it was a sin, was not married. Stopped premarital sex for 6 years. Yes, that is right gave up sex (all of it even masturbation for those who do not want to call it sex especially you porn people; you lyres are I do not know who you think you are kidding!?!) Was I ever not saved since I got saved at 18?
I know my fate before any point of my life before G-d but I would love to hear a human judge on it!?!?
For many years now no, overt sin! That I can think of, sure there is, but let's say there is not for good measure... But I still sin of the heart. I do not break any of the “commandments” but yet Samuel said I will not sin against G-d and not pray for you. To my shame there are some I do not even think to pray for.
So tell me… at what point would I have gone to hell for once I was saved and will I go to hell now since I smart mouthed my 80 year old father, like I just did during this post, I did not honor him…. Or do you people that claim we get to heaven by works get to claim which works gets us to heaven? Was it my works of my left hand that did not let my right hand know what it was doing... there are many... Can you JUDGE ME?
At 18 my first husband was murdered I got saved still did a lot of opiates, but at 21 I went to Bible College to know what Christians knew about Y-shua. Got clean never looked back. At 21 I was pregnant knocked up in Bible College. Got married again, got divorced, he beat me and cheated, and got some stupid woman named Summer pregnant. Was a piece of crap, had sex with any old thing for many years, then did not have sex for over seven years because it was a sin, was not married. Stopped premarital sex for 6 years. Yes, that is right gave up sex (all of it even masturbation for those who do not want to call it sex especially you porn people; you lyres are I do not know who you think you are kidding!?!) Was I ever not saved since I got saved at 18?
I know my fate before any point of my life before G-d but I would love to hear a human judge on it!?!?
For many years now no, overt sin! That I can think of, sure there is, but let's say there is not for good measure... But I still sin of the heart. I do not break any of the “commandments” but yet Samuel said I will not sin against G-d and not pray for you. To my shame there are some I do not even think to pray for.
So tell me… at what point would I have gone to hell for once I was saved and will I go to hell now since I smart mouthed my 80 year old father, like I just did during this post, I did not honor him…. Or do you people that claim we get to heaven by works get to claim which works gets us to heaven? Was it my works of my left hand that did not let my right hand know what it was doing... there are many... Can you JUDGE ME?
Jesus did say that to the Pharisees who pushed a man made adherence to the law....and to be frank....sin is not the issue....faith is the issue...Jesus paid the sin debt of all who exercise faith...and as a matter of fact it states clearly the sins of the whole world.......so...what is your point....
The bolded in the following....
Romans 8:1, "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
The bolded below contradicts the bolded above.....
He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
Romans 8:1, "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
The bolded below contradicts the bolded above.....
He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
J
Well I found my old thread and brought it back,it's somewhat different from "not by works" it's called "Salvation and how to know when you receive it",I'll keep it open for a day if noone really posts in it then I'll not bring it back again(felt like it didn't get much of a chance) please if you feel it less stressful post away in that thread instead,as always I look forward to it!
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Friend,
You do not need to justify yourself to me. I judge no man because it is written; If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
There is no legalism in having faith in God's Word to save you from your sins. For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes. When one has faith to love through the power of the one who makes us free to love then love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit....
You do not need to justify yourself to me. I judge no man because it is written; If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
There is no legalism in having faith in God's Word to save you from your sins. For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes. When one has faith to love through the power of the one who makes us free to love then love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit....
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Mat 23:
23, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you tithe the mint and the anise and the cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Torah: right-ruling, mercy and faith. These need to have been done, without neglecting the others.”
27, Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you are like whitewashed tombs which outwardly indeed look well, but inside are filled with dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.
28, So you too outwardly indeed appear righteous to men, but inside you are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness."
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Timothy 1:5-7, " But the goal* of the commandment is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions."[/FONT]