Who is the God Jesus serves?

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Notice too, that all REAL Christians are resurrected then?
They HAVE been dead all these centuries.
 
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#82
No- he didn't speak e-bonics.
He never used that ancient Hebrew Name.
He used "ego eimi" as everyone else did- to say he WAS there.
Need me to post what the Greek term really means?
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

There was no created God whatsoever,and God is the only Savior.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

God was manifest in flesh as our Savior.

1Jn 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

God laid down His physical life for us.

Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

God purchased the Church with His own blood.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

God is an invisible Spirit,and no person has seen Him,and Jesus is God showing a visible manifestation of Himself.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Joh 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
Joh 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism.

Jesus called Himself Lord,and there is only one Lord,which Jesus said that the Lord is God,so if there is only one Lord,and it is God,and Jesus called Himself Lord,then He is God.

The word of God,the Holy Bible,is God revealing Himself by words written in a book.

The WORD of God is God revealing Himself personally by manifesting Himself in flesh,and dwelling among people for the sake of their salvation.

Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jesus was on earth,and in heaven at the same time.

Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Jesus told the thief he would be with Him in paradise,even though Jesus went to conquer death,hell,and the grave,which Lazarus was considered in paradise,as the rich man in hell looked up and seen him in Abraham's bosom,which I say that for some will say that paradise is in hell,maybe because they cannot believe Jesus can be in both spots at the same time.

So what do you do with all that information,but I have come to realize that for the most part scriptures do not mean a whole lot among many people,but they will hold unto what their denomination teaches.

The Bible plainly states that Jesus is God,for there is no God created after God,so Jesus cannot be a created God,and Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,and only God is Lord,and Master,and there is only one Lord,but Jesus called Himself Lord and Master.

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

No one calls Jesus,Lord,but by the Holy Ghost,which claims Him as authority,and there is only one Lord,so you know what that means.

1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Jesus dwells in the light that no person can approach unto,and no person has ever seen Jesus,and no person will ever see Jesus,for He is an invisible Spirit,so this should be enough to testify that Jesus is God,and He showed a visible manifestation of Himself.
 
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#83
Nice cut and paste.
Too bad you don't understand ANY of those scriptures.
 
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seems unlikely. but my impression is that YOU don't
Takes you a second to cut and paste.
Would take a lot of time to show you the context and how some are poorly translated.

And, I doubt you would pay any attention....
 
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No not dead. Only their bodies are dead. You are all mixed up.
So, their 'immortal souls' were in heaven, then when Christ returns, he sends them in to their physical bodies in the graves?

Night of the Living Dead 22?
 

Zmouth

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Since it is written that Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am.

Then
how did Pharaoh know that Abram was married to his sister?

And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon: 12 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they shall say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save thee alive.Gen 12:11-12

So was it true what Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is? [See Genesis 41:44] Then if it was true that the Spirit of God was in Joseph, then would that indicate that the spirit of truth was in Pharaoh? Or exactly how does one define the Spirit of God?
 
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Since it is written that Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am.

Then
how did Pharaoh know that Abram was married to his sister?

And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon: 12 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they shall say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save thee alive.Gen 12:11-12

So was it true what Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is? [See Genesis 41:44] Then if it was true that the Spirit of God was in Joseph, then would that indicate that the spirit of truth was in Pharaoh? Or exactly how does one define the Spirit of God?

That is a Classic Mistranslation.
Jesus didn't quote the Symbolic Hebrew Name in that verse- as they have always tried to make it look!




Paul, Timothy, Judas and others said the EXACT SAME THING.
Think they were claiming to be God, too?
 
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Jesus NEVER said "I am the I am!" (Neither did Jehovah)
Jesus NEVER said "I am God!"
Jesus NEVER said "The Holy Ghost is God!"


Jesus DID say that his Father is God.
But CHURCHianity insists on adding him and a ghost!

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phil36

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Hi thequestion,

You might be able to help us a bit here. You believe that Jesus was the archangel Michael and that his brother was satan.. Where does it say in scripture that the archangel became flesh?

Did the archangel cease to exist, Jesus appeared, then Jesus ceased to exist and the archangel was recreated from memory.. would that be close (in your view)?
 
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Hi thequestion,

You might be able to help us a bit here. You believe that Jesus was the archangel Michael and that his brother was satan.. Where does it say in scripture that the archangel became flesh?

Did the archangel cease to exist, Jesus appeared, then Jesus ceased to exist and the archangel was recreated from memory.. would that be close (in your view)?
Do you even know what an angel IS?
 

phil36

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Do you even know what an angel IS?

Please tell me, did he cease to exist when in your view jesus was created and then jesus ceased to exist and the archangel was recreated when jesus ceased to exist?
 
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I think an angel is a messenger from God.
Very Good, tourist!
Thank you for answering the question he is hiding from!
Now- what about the winged beings seen in the visions?

Do these angels have wings?
 
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Very Good, tourist!
Thank you for answering the question he is hiding from!
Now- what about the winged beings seen in the visions?

Do these angels have wings?
your hiding from me, go back and answer my question, I answered yours, what is the gospel?
 

phil36

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2nd time: Do you even know what an angel IS?


Yes, and you have already been given that answer by others.. Now to save you the time in telling us how wrong we are maybe you could tell us what your religion teaches, lets start with what I have already asked:

Please tell me, did he (the archangel) cease to exist when in your view jesus was created and then jesus ceased to exist and the archangel was recreated when jesus ceased to exist?
 
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your hiding from me, go back and answer my question, I answered yours, what is the gospel?

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."- Jesus, Matt 24:14

Your turn, what has your church taught you the 'Gospel' is?

(PS- "HIDING"? That's Phil's Job. You KNOW I was trying to get HIM to answer.)
 

phil36

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Hi the question,

You asked about the gospel in an other thread..and you have been given the answer. I am astounded that you don't want to be a good publisher and tell us the answers about your religion..


Yes, and you have already been given that answer by others.. Now to save you the time in telling us how wrong we are maybe you could tell us what your religion teaches, lets start with what I have already asked:

Please tell me, did he (the archangel) cease to exist when in your view jesus was created and then jesus ceased to exist and the archangel was recreated when jesus ceased to exist?