When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?
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No it's not a knee jerk reaction it very simple and plainly stated;
Is the preperation day the day before the 1st day of Unleavened Bread or is the Preperation Day the day before the last day of Unleavened Bread?
Leviticus 23:4-8, “These are the appointed times of יהוה, set-apart gatherings which you are to proclaim at their appointed times. In the first new moon, on the fourteenth day of the new moon, between the evenings, is the Passover to יהוה. And on the fifteenth day of this new moon is the Festival of Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread. On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work. And you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה for seven days. On the seventh day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.”
The Preperation day (14th) is the day before the 1st day of Unleavened Bread (15th),
"the fourteenth day of the new moon, between the evenings, is the Passover to יהוה. And on the fifteenth day of this new moon is the Festival of Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread"
you can"t have the The Preperation day is the day before the 7th day of Unleavened Bread
John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.” TS 2009
John 19:31, “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” NKJV
John 19:14, "And it was the Preparation Day of the Pĕsaḥ week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign!” TS 2009
John 19:14, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and as it were the sixth hour, and he saith to the Jews, 'Lo, your king!‘ YLT
John 19:14, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!” KJV
Is the preperation day the day before the 1st day of Unleavened Bread or is the Preperation Day the day before the last day of Unleavened Bread?
Leviticus 23:4-8, “These are the appointed times of יהוה, set-apart gatherings which you are to proclaim at their appointed times. In the first new moon, on the fourteenth day of the new moon, between the evenings, is the Passover to יהוה. And on the fifteenth day of this new moon is the Festival of Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread. On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work. And you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה for seven days. On the seventh day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.”
The Preperation day (14th) is the day before the 1st day of Unleavened Bread (15th),
"the fourteenth day of the new moon, between the evenings, is the Passover to יהוה. And on the fifteenth day of this new moon is the Festival of Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread"
you can"t have the The Preperation day is the day before the 7th day of Unleavened Bread
John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.” TS 2009
John 19:31, “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” NKJV
John 19:14, "And it was the Preparation Day of the Pĕsaḥ week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign!” TS 2009
John 19:14, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and as it were the sixth hour, and he saith to the Jews, 'Lo, your king!‘ YLT
John 19:14, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!” KJV
I shortened it up in the hope that whoever wants to understand what Jesus taught about His work of atonement. To fully understand what the 3 days and nights involve I have posted all the NT Scriptures and Isaiah 53 that prophesies about His atoning work. If you read all the Scriptures you will see that Jesus never taught that He would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights.
People make the assumtion that Matthew 12:40 “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” is teaching that Jesus would be in the Tomb for that amount of time. I used to believe that He was crucified on Wednesday to account for Him being in the Tomb for the 3 days and nights, but as I studied more I realized that Jesus was not teaching that. I searched the Scriptures in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms, in all those searchs of the Scriptures I could not find anything that taught that Jesus would be in the Tomb for the 3 days and nights. They speak of what He would suffer at the hands of the chief priest, elders, Gentiles and He would be put to death and this is what Jesus taught, with Isaiah 52;13-53:12 being the main prophesy that paints a picture of the full atoning work of Christ.
It speaks of Him suffering many things at the hands of evil men, Him being mocked, whipped if you read this prophesy you will see that in the atonement there was more then His death involved, like verse 5,“But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.” He was wounded, bruised, chastised, and whipped for our transgressions, our iniquities, our peace and we are healed. He suffered these things for our atonement with God, they are part of what He needed to suffer for our atonement with God and that is what Jesus taught.
Matthew 16:21 "From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life."
Matthew 17:22-23 “When they came together in Galilee, he said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men.23 They will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised to life.” And the disciples were filled with grief.”
Matthew 20:18-19, Luke 9:22, Luke 18:31-33, Mark 8:31,Mark 9:31 and Mark 10:33-34. All but Mark 8:31 and 9:31 do not say "on the third day" but "after three days" here is Mark 8:31 “He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.”
No where does Jesus teach that He would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights, He taught that He would suffer many thing just like the Holy Spirit moved Isaiah to prophesy. Here is the reaction of the disciples on that first day of the week when Jesus resurrected. Luke 24:19-21, 25-26
“And He said to them, “What things?”
So they said to Him, “The things concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people,20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to be condemned to death, and crucified Him.21 But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, today is the third day since these things happened.”
“25 Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?”
Notice the disciples and Jesus say not one thing about the Tomb or being died for the 3 days and nights, they only speak of the things that the Christ must suffer. Also let's look at what Jeus said when He was arrested. Matthew 26:55-56
“In that hour Jesus said to the multitudes, “Have you come out, as against a robber, with swords and clubs to take Me? I sat daily with you, teaching in the temple, and you did not seize Me.56 But all this was done that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.”
Jesus is saying that His arrest is part of the prophesy about His suffering and being rejected by the chief priests, elders, teachers of the law and the Gentiles as part of His atoning work for our sins. The disciples and Jesus when talking did not mention that He needed to be in the Tomb or died for the 3 days and nights.
I have asked more then once for Scripture(s) that teach that Jesus would be in the Tomb or died for 3 days and nights, but no one has posted any Scripture to that end, why? Because they do not exsist. As I mentioned I believed that Jesus was cruxified on a Wednesday so He could be in the Tomb the 3 days and nights, but the more I studied the more I realized that something was not adding up, because I kept coming across the Scriptures that said as the Scriptures say or as was prophesied about Him and I never could find any Scriptures in the Law, Prophets or the Psalms where Jesus would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights, only Scripture about His suffering with Isaiah 52:13-53:12 being the main prophesy about His atoning work all I kept finding were Scriptures about His suffering, why? Because that is what it is about. It is a combination of Him being rejected, mocked, whipped, spit on, being put to death, all the things in Isaiah 52:13-53:12 is a full picture of His atoning work for our sins. Isaiah says that we are healed or made right with God by His strips which is a clear sign that those strips are part of the atoning work of Christ.
If anyone would read these Scriptures for what they say and forget about what others have said about one verse in Matthew 12:30, they will clearly see that Jesus never taught that He would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights. Almost all people just assume that "heart of the earth" means the grave or the Tomb, but if you read Isaiah 53:9a
“And they made His grave with the wicked—but with the rich at His death,”
Isn't the grave His Tomb and when was He in the grave with the wicked? Grave can not mean the Tomb or a grave as we understand it, what can it mean? We have to understand what this means, because we know that it is not the Tomb. Looking at all that happened and with the mention of Jesus being handed over to evil men, it seems as though the "grave" here must be talking about how Jesus was rejected, mocked, spit on, whipped and crucified, because it cannot mean what we would naturally think of as the grave.
People make the assumtion that Matthew 12:40 “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” is teaching that Jesus would be in the Tomb for that amount of time. I used to believe that He was crucified on Wednesday to account for Him being in the Tomb for the 3 days and nights, but as I studied more I realized that Jesus was not teaching that. I searched the Scriptures in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms, in all those searchs of the Scriptures I could not find anything that taught that Jesus would be in the Tomb for the 3 days and nights. They speak of what He would suffer at the hands of the chief priest, elders, Gentiles and He would be put to death and this is what Jesus taught, with Isaiah 52;13-53:12 being the main prophesy that paints a picture of the full atoning work of Christ.
It speaks of Him suffering many things at the hands of evil men, Him being mocked, whipped if you read this prophesy you will see that in the atonement there was more then His death involved, like verse 5,“But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.” He was wounded, bruised, chastised, and whipped for our transgressions, our iniquities, our peace and we are healed. He suffered these things for our atonement with God, they are part of what He needed to suffer for our atonement with God and that is what Jesus taught.
Matthew 16:21 "From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life."
Matthew 17:22-23 “When they came together in Galilee, he said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men.23 They will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised to life.” And the disciples were filled with grief.”
Matthew 20:18-19, Luke 9:22, Luke 18:31-33, Mark 8:31,Mark 9:31 and Mark 10:33-34. All but Mark 8:31 and 9:31 do not say "on the third day" but "after three days" here is Mark 8:31 “He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.”
No where does Jesus teach that He would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights, He taught that He would suffer many thing just like the Holy Spirit moved Isaiah to prophesy. Here is the reaction of the disciples on that first day of the week when Jesus resurrected. Luke 24:19-21, 25-26
“And He said to them, “What things?”
So they said to Him, “The things concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people,20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to be condemned to death, and crucified Him.21 But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, today is the third day since these things happened.”
“25 Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?”
Notice the disciples and Jesus say not one thing about the Tomb or being died for the 3 days and nights, they only speak of the things that the Christ must suffer. Also let's look at what Jeus said when He was arrested. Matthew 26:55-56
“In that hour Jesus said to the multitudes, “Have you come out, as against a robber, with swords and clubs to take Me? I sat daily with you, teaching in the temple, and you did not seize Me.56 But all this was done that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.”
Jesus is saying that His arrest is part of the prophesy about His suffering and being rejected by the chief priests, elders, teachers of the law and the Gentiles as part of His atoning work for our sins. The disciples and Jesus when talking did not mention that He needed to be in the Tomb or died for the 3 days and nights.
I have asked more then once for Scripture(s) that teach that Jesus would be in the Tomb or died for 3 days and nights, but no one has posted any Scripture to that end, why? Because they do not exsist. As I mentioned I believed that Jesus was cruxified on a Wednesday so He could be in the Tomb the 3 days and nights, but the more I studied the more I realized that something was not adding up, because I kept coming across the Scriptures that said as the Scriptures say or as was prophesied about Him and I never could find any Scriptures in the Law, Prophets or the Psalms where Jesus would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights, only Scripture about His suffering with Isaiah 52:13-53:12 being the main prophesy about His atoning work all I kept finding were Scriptures about His suffering, why? Because that is what it is about. It is a combination of Him being rejected, mocked, whipped, spit on, being put to death, all the things in Isaiah 52:13-53:12 is a full picture of His atoning work for our sins. Isaiah says that we are healed or made right with God by His strips which is a clear sign that those strips are part of the atoning work of Christ.
If anyone would read these Scriptures for what they say and forget about what others have said about one verse in Matthew 12:30, they will clearly see that Jesus never taught that He would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights. Almost all people just assume that "heart of the earth" means the grave or the Tomb, but if you read Isaiah 53:9a
“And they made His grave with the wicked—but with the rich at His death,”
Isn't the grave His Tomb and when was He in the grave with the wicked? Grave can not mean the Tomb or a grave as we understand it, what can it mean? We have to understand what this means, because we know that it is not the Tomb. Looking at all that happened and with the mention of Jesus being handed over to evil men, it seems as though the "grave" here must be talking about how Jesus was rejected, mocked, spit on, whipped and crucified, because it cannot mean what we would naturally think of as the grave.
You seem to be saying that Yahshua/Jesus was resurrected directly from the time He was suffering and illtreated ....that would be while He was still alive...and do you also include the cross up to the moment He died ? you seem to reject the fact that He died, only that He suffered. Can you clarify ? where was He for 3 days and 3 nights after He died _ left hanging on the cross? when did the women turn up to anoint his body...while He was still alive ?
You need to give a lot more detail if you want us to believe your story.
You need to give a lot more detail if you want us to believe your story.
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You are not reading the Scriptures that I posted, they clearly say He would be killed and raise to life, here they are. I will ask you the same question that I have asked others and they have not post a Scripture yet. Please post the Scripture(s) that teach that Jesus would be in the Tomb 3 days and nights?
Here is what Jesus taught,
Matthew 16:21 "From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life."
Matthew 17:22-23 “When they came together in Galilee, he said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men.23 They will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised to life.” And the disciples were filled with grief.”
Matthew 20:18-19, Luke 9:22, Luke 18:31-33, Mark 8:31,Mark 9:31 and Mark 10:33-34. All but Mark 8:31 and 9:31 do not say "on the third day" but "after three days" here is Mark 8:31 “He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.”
The key being the He taught that He would suffer many things, in those 3 days and nights, no where does He teach that He will be in the Tomb or died for those 3 days and nights. There is no prophesy that He would be in the Tomb for those days either. Everyone take one verse of what Jesus taught and assume it means the Tomb when He says "heart of the earth" yet every time He taught His disciples about His atoning work He taught He would suffer many things. Read Isaiah 53 Jesus suffered all those things in the 3 days and nights as He taught in Luke 18:31-33
Please search the Scriptures and fins where it is taught that Jesus would be in the Tomb 3 days and nights.
Here is the Scriptures that caused me to search the Scriptures to find where the Scriptures said He would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights and I could not find any. All the Scriptures that give the full picture of Jesus' atoning work have Him which is Isaiah 53 give the full picture, then listen to what Jesus teaches in Luke 18:31-33
“And taking the twelve, he said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished.32 For he will be delivered over to the Gentiles and will be mocked and shamefully treated and spit upon.33 And after flogging him, they will kill him, and on the third day he will rise.”
Notice everything is associated with the 3 days and here is what Jesus said when He was arrested in Mark 14:49
“Day after day I was with you in the temple teaching, and you did not seize me. But let the Scriptures be fulfilled.”
Jesus' arrest was the beginning of what was taught of the Son Of Man as He taught in Luke 18:31-33 and Mark 8:31.
“And he began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed, and after three days rise again.”
I do believe that Jesus died the Scriptures teach that He did. What I do not believe anymore is that He was in the Tomb for 3 days and nights, because I cannot find it in the Scriptures. If it is in the Scriptures please post it, if you have found it again please share it.
Again I've never said that Jesus was not to die, only that He did not teach that He would be died or in the Tomb for those 3 days.
You are not reading the Scriptures that I posted, they clearly say He would be killed and raise to life, here they are. I will ask you the same question that I have asked others and they have not post a Scripture yet. Please post the Scripture(s) that teach that Jesus would be in the Tomb 3 days and nights?
Here is what Jesus taught,
Matthew 16:21 "From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life."
Matthew 17:22-23 “When they came together in Galilee, he said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men.23 They will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised to life.” And the disciples were filled with grief.”
Matthew 20:18-19, Luke 9:22, Luke 18:31-33, Mark 8:31,Mark 9:31 and Mark 10:33-34. All but Mark 8:31 and 9:31 do not say "on the third day" but "after three days" here is Mark 8:31 “He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.”
The key being the He taught that He would suffer many things, in those 3 days and nights, no where does He teach that He will be in the Tomb or died for those 3 days and nights. There is no prophesy that He would be in the Tomb for those days either. Everyone take one verse of what Jesus taught and assume it means the Tomb when He says "heart of the earth" yet every time He taught His disciples about His atoning work He taught He would suffer many things. Read Isaiah 53 Jesus suffered all those things in the 3 days and nights as He taught in Luke 18:31-33
Please search the Scriptures and fins where it is taught that Jesus would be in the Tomb 3 days and nights.
Here is the Scriptures that caused me to search the Scriptures to find where the Scriptures said He would be in the Tomb for 3 days and nights and I could not find any. All the Scriptures that give the full picture of Jesus' atoning work have Him which is Isaiah 53 give the full picture, then listen to what Jesus teaches in Luke 18:31-33
“And taking the twelve, he said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished.32 For he will be delivered over to the Gentiles and will be mocked and shamefully treated and spit upon.33 And after flogging him, they will kill him, and on the third day he will rise.”
Notice everything is associated with the 3 days and here is what Jesus said when He was arrested in Mark 14:49
“Day after day I was with you in the temple teaching, and you did not seize me. But let the Scriptures be fulfilled.”
Jesus' arrest was the beginning of what was taught of the Son Of Man as He taught in Luke 18:31-33 and Mark 8:31.
“And he began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed, and after three days rise again.”
I do believe that Jesus died the Scriptures teach that He did. What I do not believe anymore is that He was in the Tomb for 3 days and nights, because I cannot find it in the Scriptures. If it is in the Scriptures please post it, if you have found it again please share it.
Again I've never said that Jesus was not to die, only that He did not teach that He would be died or in the Tomb for those 3 days.
So if he was not in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights where was he ?
you don't believe scriptures that say he was placed into the tomb/rock/heart of the earth...predicted by His own word ? would that have had to be literally the centre of the earth ?
Is it only His 'suffering' to be counted as paying our death-penalty ? in your view would 'suffering be the ultimate payment and not death ?
You are negating a lot of other scriptures with your (dare I say) half-baked ideas (no wish to be offensive...but they don't include all scriptures pertaining to Yahshua/Jesus' life and death....the reason He came... get off this fixation with the tomb which is becoming your 'stumbling stone....because if you don't it will fall on you and grind you to powder...that's biblical.
May you find 'enlightenment and give our Savior Full Credit for All He suffered even unto death. You may not deny His death but you certainly don't pay much attention to it. May God help you !
you don't believe scriptures that say he was placed into the tomb/rock/heart of the earth...predicted by His own word ? would that have had to be literally the centre of the earth ?
Is it only His 'suffering' to be counted as paying our death-penalty ? in your view would 'suffering be the ultimate payment and not death ?
You are negating a lot of other scriptures with your (dare I say) half-baked ideas (no wish to be offensive...but they don't include all scriptures pertaining to Yahshua/Jesus' life and death....the reason He came... get off this fixation with the tomb which is becoming your 'stumbling stone....because if you don't it will fall on you and grind you to powder...that's biblical.
May you find 'enlightenment and give our Savior Full Credit for All He suffered even unto death. You may not deny His death but you certainly don't pay much attention to it. May God help you !
I am not preaching I am post Scripture that shows what Jesus taught about His being rejected, mocked, whipped, spit on and killed to rise to life after three days.
If you believe that Jesus was in the Tomb for the 3 days and night can you post the Scripture(s) that teach this?
Here is what the disciples thought after Jesus was killed and what Jesus told them on that first day of the week when He rose from the died, on the road to Emmaus. Luke 24:18-21
“Then one of them, named Cleopas, answered him, “Are you the only visitor to Jerusalem who does not know the things that have happened there in these days?”
19 And he said to them, “What things?”
And they said to him, “Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, a man who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people,20 and how our chief priests and rulers delivered him up to be condemned to death, and crucified him. 21 But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel. Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things happened.”
“25 And he said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!26 Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?”
Notice neither Jesus nor the disciples say anything about Him being in the Tomb 3 days, but they say "suffer these things" in other words all that Jesus taught have what Isaiah prophesied in chapter 53.
Again if you have Scriptures that teach that Jesus was to be in the Tomb for 3 days and rise after 3 days please post them. I have posted prophesy and Jesus' teachings on His atoning work for those 3 days.
To me 3 days and 3 nights does not necessarily mean 72 hours Hebrew idiom allows it to be shorter. Several scriptures state that he was to rise ON the third day. All the Spring appointed times were fulfilled at His first coming. But if he were not resurrected on the first day of the week firstfruits would not be fulfilled. A Wednesday crucifixion precludes Sunday being the third day.
You simply aren't reading what is right in front of your eyes:
Mat 12:40) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
If "the heart of the earth" does not mean dead and in the tomb, what does it mean?
Mat 12:40) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
If "the heart of the earth" does not mean dead and in the tomb, what does it mean?
In Mk 16v1 it says 'they had bought sweet spices'...that would be in their raw state like 'leaves, twigs, roots, flowers....since they had to 'prepare the ointments, lotions, salves etc Lk 23v56...then rested on the weekly sabbath as per commandment.
I have worked in a 'Herbalist with all these raw materials that needed grinding down, boiling to a certain temperature etc etc ...it's not a 5 minute job but takes many hours.
In Joh 19 we read of 'Joseph of Arimathea and also Nicodemus wrapping Jesus' body in a sheet with the spices (he had stored for his own burial) about a 'hundred pound weight of mixed spices....so again we see that it takes time to make the ointments required....and they had to rush burial/entombment to complete before sunset.
I have worked in a 'Herbalist with all these raw materials that needed grinding down, boiling to a certain temperature etc etc ...it's not a 5 minute job but takes many hours.
In Joh 19 we read of 'Joseph of Arimathea and also Nicodemus wrapping Jesus' body in a sheet with the spices (he had stored for his own burial) about a 'hundred pound weight of mixed spices....so again we see that it takes time to make the ointments required....and they had to rush burial/entombment to complete before sunset.
Greetings JohnnyB,
Why are you asking for scriptural proof regarding something that is all too obvious?
"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
Which part of that don't you understand?
Furthermore, there were two Sabbath days, back to back. The first day of unleavened bread was a Sabbath, as well as the seventh day of unleavened bread. Jesus was crucified and died the day prior to one of these special Sabbaths, with the regular weekly Sabbath taking place the next day, so that there were two Sabbaths back to back. Therefore when it states that the women went to the tomb after the Sabbath, it is referring to both Sabbaths. This is how it was possible for Christ to be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights. But the question of whether he was or not is not even debatable. And that because he himself said that he would be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights..
In addition, Psalm 16: says "For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption."
The above is in reference to the Father not allowing Christ's spirit to remain in Sheol nor his body to decay in the earth.
Why are you asking for scriptural proof regarding something that is all too obvious?
"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
Which part of that don't you understand?
Furthermore, there were two Sabbath days, back to back. The first day of unleavened bread was a Sabbath, as well as the seventh day of unleavened bread. Jesus was crucified and died the day prior to one of these special Sabbaths, with the regular weekly Sabbath taking place the next day, so that there were two Sabbaths back to back. Therefore when it states that the women went to the tomb after the Sabbath, it is referring to both Sabbaths. This is how it was possible for Christ to be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights. But the question of whether he was or not is not even debatable. And that because he himself said that he would be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights..
In addition, Psalm 16: says "For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption."
The above is in reference to the Father not allowing Christ's spirit to remain in Sheol nor his body to decay in the earth.
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There have already been so many posts and so many scriptures on the subject...can't you scroll back and read them ? where do you think Jesus was for 3 whole days after He died ? Mat 12v40 is one clue stated by Himself. You don't believe Him because He did not use the word TOMB...but if the centre of the earth is rock/hard core, then a large rock would be equal to it in comparison and a much better analogy than tomb....but that is what WE call it, Jesus uses a different expression...are YOU going to correct Him ?
We can loo to Passover and see it is about the sacrifice of a lamb.
Where can we look to Firstfruits and see a resurrection? It is the presenting of oneself in front of YHWH, is Yahshua raised from the dead? Yes.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 23:10-12, “to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them, ‘When you come into the land which I give you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it. And on that day when you wave the sheaf, you shall prepare a male lamb a year old, a perfect one, as an ascending offering to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”
[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]he shall wave the sheaf before [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it.
If you look at the Scriptual timeline it shows Yahshua did indeed present Himseelf as Firstfruits to YHWH the 1st day, that in itself does not prove or disprove a 7th day or 1st day resurrection. All Scripture must be consulted to find th truth. Isolating any Scripture does not tell the entire picture.
Did you read the 1st 3 posts? I think it is proven using the word.[/FONT]
Where can we look to Firstfruits and see a resurrection? It is the presenting of oneself in front of YHWH, is Yahshua raised from the dead? Yes.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 23:10-12, “to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them, ‘When you come into the land which I give you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it. And on that day when you wave the sheaf, you shall prepare a male lamb a year old, a perfect one, as an ascending offering to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”
[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]he shall wave the sheaf before [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it.
If you look at the Scriptual timeline it shows Yahshua did indeed present Himseelf as Firstfruits to YHWH the 1st day, that in itself does not prove or disprove a 7th day or 1st day resurrection. All Scripture must be consulted to find th truth. Isolating any Scripture does not tell the entire picture.
Did you read the 1st 3 posts? I think it is proven using the word.[/FONT]