The admonition equally applies to both sides but you are spot on that the Holy Spirit can only produce the fruit of Gal 5:22-23.
The Holy Spirit never goes off script. The Holy Spirit never changes the will of God nor is He subject to the will of man.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Amen
It applies to all the gifts like you mentioned below. No such thing as a “sign gift.” Signs oppose walking by faith (the unseen)
Rodger offered correctly ..
Miracles still occur but there are no miracle workers apart from God. Healings occur but there are no healers just a faithful, caring God.
The Holy Spirit is moving and working in the affairs of men but the Holy Spirit is not subject to the will of men.
We walk by a faith not seen, not of our own selves as that seen. But rather a faith that we do have working in us but is not of us .You could say a new faith not after the imagination of a sinful heart. .
2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
This is where the Hebrews four principle comes in In respect to those who
do not mix faith, the unseen work in what they do hear or see. But rather walk after the normal course of this world.
What you see is what you get. (no faith needed)
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Heb 4:1
One of the better examples of men turning things upside down in found in Acts 14.
There as a integral part of preaching the gospel God for a temporal time period He healed men teaching them to walk by faith, as a parable, hiding the unseen spiritual understanding from natural man .
They were ware of it, and fled unto Lystra and Derbe, cities of Lycaonia, and unto the region that lieth round about:And there they preached the gospel. And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked:The same heard Paul speak: who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet.
It applies to all the gifts like you mentioned below. No such thing as a “sign gift.” it opposes walking by faith (the unseen)
Rodger offered correctly ..Miracles still occur but there are no miracle workers apart from God. Healings occur but there are no healers just a faithful, caring God.
The Holy Spirit is moving and working in the affairs of men but the Holy Spirit is not subject to the will of men.
We walk by a faith not seen, not of our own selves as that seen. But rather a faith that we do have working in us but is not of us .You could say a new faith not after the imagination of a sinful heart. .
2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
This is where the Hebrews four principle comes in In respect to those who do not mix faith, the unseen work in what they do hear or see. But rather walk after the normal course of this world.
What you see is what you get. (no faith needed)
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Heb 4:1
One of the better examples of men turning things upside down in found in Acts 14.
There as part of preaching the gospel God for a temporal time period He healed men teaching them to walk by faith, as a parable, hiding the unseen spiritual understanding from natural man .
They were ware of it, and fled unto Lystra and Derbe, cities of Lycaonia, and unto the region that lieth round about:And there they preached the gospel. And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked:The same heard Paul speak: who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet.Acts 14
Paul above who stedfastly beholding the one who could not walk , and perceiving that he had faith to be healed, was given the faith of Christ to believe the other person could be healed . Paul prophesying spoke the words Christ put on his mouth and replied , Stand upright on thy feet. The word of God worked in the man to both will and perform His good purpose. those who misunderstood the parable as thosewho do walk by sight worshiped the prophet rather than the prophecy . the y made the apostles inot gods in the leiness of men . therefore violateing the fist commandment no to have other gods before our Living God Christ Jesus. No such thing as a sign gifts . Signs are for those who rebel and make men into gods in the likeness of man . God is not a man as us he has no form
And he leaped and walked.And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, Act 14:6-14
Interestingly they named them after the gods of the philosophies of men . as it would seem to represent the father and the Son working together .You have to wonder where they got that idea from other than the usurper?
Strongs lexicon 2203 Zeus {dzyooce}
of uncertain affinity;; n pr m
AV - Jupiter 2; 2
Jupiter or Zeus =
"a father of helps" 1) the national god of the Greeks and corresponds to the Roman Jupiter
Strongs lexicon 2060 Hermes {her-mace'}
perhaps from 2046;; n pr m
AV - Mercurius 1, Hermes a Christian 1; 2
Mercurius or Hermes = "herald of the gods" 1) a Greek deity called by the Romans Mercurius (Mercury) 2) a certain Christian
Looking at it in that way of making gods in the likeness of men . I will paraphrase to offer my opinion of the results of those who do seek after a sign before they believe.
Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father Jupiter, cometh unto me Mercurius.
Paul above who stedfastly beholding the one who could not walk , and perceiving that he had faith to be healed, because he was given the faith of Christ to believe the other person could be healed . Paul prophesying, spoke the words Christ put on his mouth and replied , Stand upright on thy feet.
The word of God worked in the man to both will and perform His good purpose. Not the good pleasure of Paul as if he was in the place of God.
Those who misunderstood the parable are those who do walk by sight .They worshiped the prophet rather than the prophecy . They made the apostles into gods in the likness of men (just as the catholics do) . Therefore violateing the fist commandment no to have other gods before our Living God Christ Jesus. No such thingas a sign gifts . Signs are for those who rebel and make men into gods in the likeness of man . God is not a man as us he has no form
And he leaped and walked.And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, "because he was the" chief speaker.Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, Act 14:6-14
Interestingly they named them after the gods of the philosophies of men as it would seem to represent the father and the Son working together .You have to wonder where they got that idea from other than the usurper the one who turns things upside down.?
Strongs lexicon 2203 Zeus {dzyooce}
of uncertain affinity;; n pr m
AV - Jupiter 2; 2
Jupiter or Zeus = "a father of helps" 1) the national god of the Greeks and corresponds to the Roman Jupiter
Strongs lexicon 2060 Hermes {her-mace'}
perhaps from 2046;; n pr m
AV - Mercurius 1, Hermes a Christian 1; 2
Mercurius or Hermes = "herald of the gods" 1) a Greek deity called by the Romans Mercurius (Mercury) 2) a certain Christian
.
Looking at it in that way of making gods in the likeness of men . I will paraphrase to offer my opinion of the results of those who do seek after a sign before they believe
Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father
(Jupiter), cometh unto me
(Mercurius).