Is healing promised to the believers?

[Waggles]

Divine Healing by Smith Wigglesworth

(8 June 1859 – 12 March 1947)​

"In Sweden his preaching on divine healing and water baptism so stirred up
the doctors and some ministers of religion that they combined in presenting
a petition to their parliament.
This resulted in Brother Wigglesworth being forbidden to touch the people or
lay hands on any of them in public for their healing.
One day he was preaching in a park when it was estimated that a crowd of
at least 20,000 people had gathered to hear him.
A number of government representatives were present to insure that he
carried out the law - and he was equal to the situation.
He asked all who were sick to stand if they could; and failing that, to
indicate in some way their need and he would pray for them.
He said, "Now each one lay hands on himself and I'm going to pray that
the Lord will heal you." The sick people laid their hands on their own
afflicted parts, and he prayed a simple prayer of faith.
Hundreds were blessed and healed as a result.
In this way he kept within the law."

from 'Smith Wigglesworth APOSTLE OF FAITH'
pp 63-64
by Stanley Howard Frodsham
Gospel Publishing House 1948
Springfield, Missouri U.S.A.

 

[laura_charlotte]

Jesus holds Nehemiah in high esteem Depleted., as He holds you in high esteem. And me. So if Jesus loves us all that much., shouldn't we attempt to love and hold up one another in high esteem as well each time we come here when we feel annoyed? Yes, we should. No doubt we must.

That is so biblically sound, and very much required. It is encouraging and equipping us children of God to become lovers of The Word of God. The foundation by which we do everything starts and finishes with The Word of God. We don't compromise on Scripture, we center our focus around it.

 

[joaniemarie]

Just received this in my mail box this afternoon. It's about the Endurance of the Saints. I agree with this article sooo much. It was not until I went through the fire and losing everything dear to me (even though I held on to it all sooo tightly and lost it anyway) that Jesus was able to show me the promises are found in Him alone. Not our own strength or goodness or even that we deserved anything. In Him we have the promises due to His gift of righteousness given to us freely without our earning it.

He proved that He would get me through to the other side of each trial and tribulation there was to go through. Not only that., but He took me through and then blessed me for the going through of it with Him. Showing clearly that the next time there is a trial or tribulation coming at me from the world, the flesh and the devil, Jesus will do the very same thing again and again and again., be 100% faithful to His promises until the very end.





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There are nearly two dozen New Testament scriptures that speak of enduring or holding fast to the end. The wrong way to read these scriptures is to think, “I must sweat and strive and endure or be disqualified from the kingdom.” If the Christian race is a marathon, it begins at the finish line. Christ has already endured which is why, in him, we can have peace when troubles come.[/FONT]
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So why does the Bible contain so many exhortations to endure? Because you and I have a great need for endurance, and God has promised to supply that need (along with all our other needs) according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus (Php 4:19).[/FONT]
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There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus. (Rev 14:11-12, NIV)[/FONT]
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The New International Version Bible makes it sound like your salvation is contingent upon your endurance and commandment-keeping. In other words, you’d better follow the rules and show some moral fiber when faced with persecution.[/FONT]
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This is bad advice! Live like this and you’ll be as restless as those who worship the beast. Let’s look at that scripture in a literal translation:[/FONT]
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Here is endurance of the saints: here are those keeping the commands of God and the faith of Jesus. (Rev 14:12 YLT)[/FONT]
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John is saying, “Do you see it? Under this incredible pressure from a corrupt world system, the saints are enduring. Those who trust Jesus are staying faithful in the face of persecution.” John is not saying, “This calls for…” but “Here it is! Look! See what God is doing – he is keeping his saints!”[/FONT]
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We don’t endure to become Christians; we endure because we are Christians – because Christ is in us and he is the all-time Overcomer and Endurer. As John says, it is the “faith of Jesus” that makes this possible.[/FONT]
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It may not be in your nature to endure but rest assured it is in his nature, and as you allow him to express his life through yours, you too will endure to the end. Keep your focus on Jesus and you will be amazed at what you can endure.[/FONT]
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Have you ever read how the first-century Christians endured horrific persecution. Can you imagine what it must’ve been like to be rounded up with other believers and sent to the Roman circus to face the lions? Can you imagine sitting in the holding cell waiting for your turn to be torn and devoured?[/FONT]
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Yet when you read about these Christ-followers you’ll find that many actually volunteered for the circus. Like Paul, they considered it an honor to share a martyr’s death with Christ. In other words, when the pressure came they found within themselves the supernatural steel of Christ’s endurance. They literally had Christ’s courage.[/FONT]
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It’s the same today. I know of Chinese pastors who have thought nothing of going to prison. If you know anything about Chinese prisons you will know that’s not normal to be untroubled by such things, and yet they are. They endure the unendurable because Christ empowers them.[/FONT]
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Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. (Jas 1:2-4)[/FONT]
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In Christ you already lack nothing but you won’t know you lack nothing until you’ve been tested by the trials of life. It is only when you have gone past the point of your own strength and found your heavenly Father, strong and smiling, that you begin to realize that when you are weak, you can be strong indeed.[/FONT]
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It is not a joyful thing to be persecuted. The joy comes in discovering through the trial that the faith God has put within you is purer than gold.[/FONT]
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In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed. (1 Pet 1:6-7)[/FONT]
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The faith he has given you – Jesus’ faith, remember – is not brittle but strong. You might not know this but when the trial comes you will and then you will rejoice. You will marvel like John and say, “Look! Here now is endurance of the saints!” You will marvel like Paul and say, “I am not discouraged. Even though on the outside it seems everything is falling apart, on the inside God is revealing his amazing life” (2 Cor 4:16).[/FONT]
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Our part is to behold Jesus who has already endured and marvel with gratitude as he continues to endure.

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[joaniemarie]

In Christ you already lack nothing but you won’t know you lack nothing until you’ve been tested by the trials of life. It is only when you have gone past the point of your own strength and found your heavenly Father, strong and smiling, that you begin to realize that when you are weak, you can be strong indeed.


This is so true. The trials will come because we live here on earth. But the difference is we will not stay under the problems. We will overcome in Jesus. Those impossible fears and terrors that once held us in prison will not be there to debilitate and handicap us anymore. We overcome them all In Jesus and He gets us through to the other side step by step one day at a time.

 

[know1]

Illness befalls us as a consequence of the original sin.. It's NOTHING that WE do to ourselves. God doesn't beset us with illness just because we refuse to repent, or because we have some sort of blame..

And many here, including myself, will tell you that their illnesses have blessed them greatly. Maybe some day after you've had cancer, or a heart attack, or become disabled in some horrific accident, you can come back here and tell us what YOU have been blessed with because of your illness.

Then may God richly bless you young lady with more illnesses, and let's not forget to bless your family members as well.
Of course I wouldn't wish that on you or your family members, but are you hearing how ridiculous that sounds?
Ms bug lady, why would you even talk like that? Don't you know that Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil?
Why would you praise the devil's work and curse Jesus'?
Are you aware that sicknesses and diseases are curses or a result of a curse?
And are you also aware that Jesus became a curse for us and nailed every curse to the cross? This is part of the good new of Jesus Christ. This also is part of what Jesus' blood redeemed us from.
Since Jesus bore and took upon Him every curse of the law of sin and death, and paid the penalty for it for us, why would you want the very thing He came to destroy?
You are being like the devil to whip up a storm to come against Jesus' words of, "Let us go to the other side..."
Some tribulations come for the word's sake.
As for the curses that take hold of our lives as times, God is able to use and turn the curses into a blessing with some.
Honestly, I don't know what's so special about sickness that so many believer would fight for it, and what's so bad about healing, that so many would fight so hard against it.

 

[garee]

Spiritual healing from sin is the promised healing to a believer. There is no promised healing to the flesh in a body of death .All die not receiving the promise of their new bodies. As long as we wake up on the green side of the grass we have living Hope.

Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

 

[know1]

I have no clue by your assertion concerning my 'completely true claim'

get a clue...try actually reading what people write

you know, these emotional diatribes that are written sound more like a child having a tantrum and insisting on getting it's way

don't you think people would be lining up for TRUE healings? yet they don't

it's just alot of words created by name it and claim it with no substance

no...you do not believe what is written. you twist what is written and then go farther and say that we don't believe in healing when we have stated mulitple times that we do believe God does heal

however, He does not heal on command, demand or the number of times you claim it

I have found that the more someone makes a fuss about God healing, the less proof they have of what they say

Ma'am, I didn't say you don't believe in healing, I said you don't expect it, I said you fight against it, I said you don't have the faith for it, and the like.
Everyone KNOW God CAN, but not many KNOW THAT HE WILL WHEN THEY PRAY.
There's a huge canyon between the two.
One will cause God to move and the other won't.

 

[Galatea]

No, otherwise, there would be people here on Earth from 100 A.D. as Christians would always be healed and never die.

 

[stonesoffire]

Psa 103:1 A Psalm of David.Bless the LORD, O my soul, and all that is within me, blessthe name of his holiness.
Psa 103:2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
Psa 103:3 Who forgives all thine iniquities; who heals all thy diseases;
Psa 103:4 who redeems thy life from destruction; who crowns thee with mercy and compassion;
Psa 103:5 who satisfies thy mouth with good things so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.

 

[Iconoclast]

Divine Healing by Smith Wigglesworth

(8 June 1859 – 12 March 1947)​

"In Sweden his preaching on divine healing and water baptism so stirred up
the doctors and some ministers of religion that they combined in presenting
a petition to their parliament.
This resulted in Brother Wigglesworth being forbidden to touch the people or
lay hands on any of them in public for their healing.
One day he was preaching in a park when it was estimated that a crowd of
at least 20,000 people had gathered to hear him.
A number of government representatives were present to insure that he
carried out the law - and he was equal to the situation.
He asked all who were sick to stand if they could; and failing that, to
indicate in some way their need and he would pray for them.
He said, "Now each one lay hands on himself and I'm going to pray that
the Lord will heal you." The sick people laid their hands on their own
afflicted parts, and he prayed a simple prayer of faith.
Hundreds were blessed and healed as a result.
In this way he kept within the law."

from 'Smith Wigglesworth APOSTLE OF FAITH'
pp 63-64
by Stanley Howard Frodsham
Gospel Publishing House 1948
Springfield, Missouri U.S.A.

Nonsense...he was a false teacher.

 

[Iconoclast]

Nonsense...he was a false teacher.

https://atwistedcrownofthorns.com/2012/12/14/what-did-smith-wigglesworth-really-preach/

 

[Jackson123]

Then may God richly bless you young lady with more illnesses, and let's not forget to bless your family members as well.
Of course I wouldn't wish that on you or your family members, but are you hearing how ridiculous that sounds?
Ms bug lady, why would you even talk like that? Don't you know that Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil?
Why would you praise the devil's work and curse Jesus'?
Are you aware that sicknesses and diseases are curses or a result of a curse?
And are you also aware that Jesus became a curse for us and nailed every curse to the cross? This is part of the good new of Jesus Christ. This also is part of what Jesus' blood redeemed us from.
Since Jesus bore and took upon Him every curse of the law of sin and death, and paid the penalty for it for us, why would you want the very thing He came to destroy?
You are being like the devil to whip up a storm to come against Jesus' words of, "Let us go to the other side..."
Some tribulations come for the word's sake.
As for the curses that take hold of our lives as times, God is able to use and turn the curses into a blessing with some.
Honestly, I don't know what's so special about sickness that so many believer would fight for it, and what's so bad about healing, that so many would fight so hard against it.

Jesus is also raise the death, is that always happen in your church?, mean No body die in your church?

 

[know1]

and here we have a perfect example, yet again, of the ignorance of actual scripture

this dude does not seem to understand he is saying God is bringing punishment on an innocent baby because mom or dad sinned

at any rate, Jesus disagrees with him

1As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”3“Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

4As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”6After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man’s eyes.7“Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam” (this word means “Sent”). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing. John 9

WOF tries to make a case for any scripture that seems to make the case they wish to make, conveniently leaving out anything that might throw different light on their conclusions

you cannot make a doctrine out of an event when another event, with the same formula, states the opposite of the first event

this is typical WOF

I will also make note of the fact that the first parable is speaking about FORGIVENESS NOT sickness

so we have a mashup of two different examples in which the poster tries to connect the dots when the examples are not about the same thing

just take your Bible, pick and choose, and then string your personal examples like popcorn and call anyone who disagrees with this very unsound practice, ignorant, simple and deceived

yes...anyone who disagrees with this...cough cough...great Bible scholar, is ignorant, simple AND deceived

love how the WOFers love to call names

it's one of the finer points of their ability to squeeze out of scripture what only they see

I hope you don't mind, but I combined both of your replies in this one post.
Jesus said He did not come to destroy the law and the prophets, but to fulfill it, and Paul said we establish the law, and part of the law is that the sins of the fathers will come on their children to the third and fourth generation.

Num 14:18 The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

That law didn't just go away because you received Christ.
And yes, you have to read into that a little to find out what it means when God says He will visit the iniquity of the fathers upon the children.
Why do you think the Jesus' disciples asked Him who sinned for the man to be in his current condition from birth, if they didn't know about the curses of the fathers coming on their children? That was why they asked.
But for this case alone, God cause this man to be born blind knowing that Jesus would exalt Him by healing him.

"you cannot make a doctrine out of an event when another event, with the same formula, states the opposite of the first event"

Agreed.

The reason why I wrote about the parable in Matt 18 is because a lack of forgiveness results in a curse, because it is a sin before God. He said if we refuse to forgive others, He will refuse to do the same to us.
So when a person refuses to forgive another, a curse is place on that person and/or their family members, and can therefore result in or be the cause of an illness of some kind.
What was John the Baptist's ministry?
Was it to baptize people?
No, it was to make the people ready for Jesus.
What did He do, and for what cause, did to make them ready?
Yes, he baptized, but that was only symbolic.
What John did was he got them to repent of their sins and confess them.
This not only prepared them to accept Jesus, because of the new condition of their hearts, but it also prepared them to receive healing and deliverance from Him.
Jesus equated healing with forgiveness by saying, "which is easier to say, thy sins be forgiven thee or to say, rise up and be healed?"
And how are we forgiven of our sins?
No it is not done for us automatically by the blood of Jesus.
We too must repent and confess our faults that we may be healed, as it is written in James 5.
So the point I was making with the parable is that when we hold a grudge against another person, refusing to forgive them, God will do the same to us as we have done to others, only it will come with a curse. And not only will God refuse to forgive us, since forgiveness is tied to healing, or one must first be forgiven to be healed, God will refuse to heal us.
Did you understand at least what I was saying?
The short of it is, no forgiveness, no healing. And in order for us to be forgiven, we must first repent of it, and then confess it. Then God is faithful and just to both cleanse and forgive us of all unrighteousness.
Now God can heal the person who stands in faith.
And I wasn't calling anyone names when I said they must be, ignorant, simple, or deceived. I was stating a fact or truth.
If I was trying to insult anyone, I would have included stupid.

 

[know1]

Do you serve hiphuggers for this big pile of doodoo?

My great-uncle took the time to write the book of my family tree from his and my grandmother's side going back seven generations (until my grandmother's generation, so now I'm seeing the 11th generation of that family tree born.) I'm talking so far back that leg of the family moved into the deep wilderness of America -- Chemung County, NY. The first whites living in that county. And they were missionaries to the Indians, so yup Christians too.

My grandmother was a Christian -- the only close relative I have that was one. Her daughter/my aunt was retarded, back in the days when that was a descriptive word, not a sin to say. So you've got the cojones to try to tell me my aunt was punishment? My aunt was bossy, loving, always ready to protect any one of her nieces and nephews, equally capable of still putting up a good physical fight with my mother even into their late 20s-early 30s (funniest thing I've ever seen in my life was two sisters fighting like they were 10 years old lol), could get stains out of clothes that simply should not be able to be removed, and made such quality napkins and table mats, that I still have some 50 years later, and yet you think she was punishment? I need waders with the bull you're trying to serve!

I know atheists who understand the Bible better than you do!

One thing for sure. I no longer hold the "half-witted idiot" affront you gave against you. Comparatively, that is four times better than you are, so you have absolutely no clue how to judge such things!

How dare you set yourself up as God's mouthpiece when you don't even know him?

Is there a reason why there is such intense hatred towards me when I'm not attacking anyone in particular?
I was just stating a fact.
This was to a post that was saying what I said was ridiculous.
My reply was, only to those who are ignorant, simple, or deceived.
That is a true statement.
And why are you taking this personally? Did I attack your baby or something?
It would be nice if we could just discuss scripture, civil like.
Like I said many times before, these kind of posts don't bother me in the least. At the same time, I'm not an idiot that I can't tell when someone's being sarcastic or trying to belittle or make fun of me or others for that matter.
Have I attacked others? Absolutely, and I would do it again under the same circumstances. That being, if they attack another person whom I see as being innocent. I see it as a wolf in sheep's clothing going after a true sheep of God, to destroy or demoralize them.
Anyway, thanks for the story, I enjoyed it.
As for the children, it's not about punishing them or the young, it's more about the young's association with the parent.
Not only is the child connected to the parent by blood, but they are also connected spiritually, like we are connected to Jesus.
As I have stated before, spirits are like trees with seeds. These seeds start out like all seed do. They are small and need to be planted. But they also grow and multiply like regular plants. The seeds or offspring are also an exact replica of their parent. If the parent is a hateful spirit, then the seed or offspring will be a hateful spirit as well.
Abraham had a spirit of faith that multiplied like plants that bear seeds, and that is why he is our father and we his children, and how and why he became a father of many nations long after he was dead. It is through these spirits that multiply themselves. These seeds are the offspring of and from the parent spirit of faith from the parent spirit of faith that was on Abraham. Much like the spirit that was on Moses. It multiplied itself via its seeds and went on the seventy elders, causing them to be like Moses, because of the spirit that was on him.
Now if the parent of a child has an unforgiveness problem, which is caused by a spirit in the parent, a seed from that same said spirit can go on the child, because the child is an extension and part of the parent, like we are an extension and a part of God the Father through Jesus.
If you would like, I can show you scripturally how this works spiritually, because I have it written down from my studies of the subject.
The point is, the seed or offspring is connected to the parent, and as the parent is, so is the seed or offspring.
And as the spirit is in the person, so is the person, for it is written, "As Jesus is in us, so are we."
So what you are calling doodoo, and saying that I don't know what I'm talking about and that I don't know God, you might first ask me to PROVE it to you scripturally.
There obviously is a lot more to this than what I wrote, but I just wanted to give you the gist of why the sins of the fathers are visited on the children.

 

[know1]

Jesus is also raise the death, is that always happen in your church?, mean No body die in your church?

That would almost be like ask Jesus if He healed everyone He prayed for.
The answer to that is, no, Jesus didn't have a 100 percent success rate.
Many times there are condition that must be met by the second part for them to get healed, and if that is missing, there is no healing.
One of those conditions is the need for God's forgiveness for our sins.
Healing is associated with forgiveness and visa versa.
First clean the inside of the cup, that the outside may be cleaned also.

 

[Jackson123]

That would almost be like ask Jesus if He healed everyone He prayed for.
The answer to that is, no, Jesus didn't have a 100 percent success rate.
Many times there are condition that must be met by the second part for them to get healed, and if that is missing, there is no healing.
One of those conditions is the need for God's forgiveness for our sins.
Healing is associated with forgiveness and visa versa.
First clean the inside of the cup, that the outside may be cleaned also.

I do not think Jesus ever fail. Jesus is God, creater heaven and earth, to heal the sick is a piece fake for Him, but some time for some reason, He doesn't want to heal some body. The reason is love.

Same with blessing, I am consider low income, do I believe God able to make me billioner? Yes. For God, to make me billioner is a piece of cake, why not make me Happy?

because He love me, If I am billioner, I may do not need Him anymore and go to hell.

He know the best for us,

Mark 9:47
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

healthy eyes, healthy body may offend us, It may bring us to hell fire, in that case, God do not heal us or raise us from the dead

anyway If we sick and not heal, die, AS long AS go to heaven, It is million time better tha in heal and live oN the rotten earth.

 

[know1]

know1 is talking about the spiritual realm Lynn. We are still here is this world and are naturally born so we carry the failings of our ancestors in our very DNA. For diseases are connected to spirits. A hard word to receive I know, but if one could see into the spirit? Couldn't take what is there.

Its probably not a good subject for this board either. Just giving know1 a little backing, for your words were very hard to him.

I didn't want to miss out in thanking you for coming to my defense.
I must say, I believe you are the first to do that.
But really, I don't mind it. I'm just glad they reply.
My biggest problem seems to be me proving the other side wrong and they never reply, and so that ends the conversation.
At the same time, you were correct, in part, as for what I was trying to convey.
Thanks again, and thanks for sharing your wisdom as well.

 

[know1]

I do not think Jesus ever fail. Jesus is God, creater heaven and earth, to heal the sick is a piece fake for Him, but some time for some reason, He doesn't want to heal some body. The reason is love.

Same with blessing, I am consider low income, do I believe God able to make me billioner? Yes. For God, to make me billioner is a piece of cake, why not make me Happy?

because He love me, If I am billioner, I may do not need Him anymore and go to hell.

He know the best for us,

Mark 9:47
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

healthy eyes, healthy body may offend us, It may bring us to hell fire, in that case, God do not heal us or raise us from the dead

anyway If we sick and not heal, die, AS long AS go to heaven, It is million time better tha in heal and live oN the rotten earth.

It's getting late for me, but I will show you what I'm talking about tomorrow, or rather later today.

 

[FrankLee]

Forty years ago when Jesus came for me in the rural wooded country where we live, I was having severe chest pains. I had a small hobby sawmill there where I cut lumber from the logs I felled and skidded on our place. It was very hard work and a welcome change from my office type profession. I sat on a log one day with my heart just throbbing with pain. I hadn't been a Christian too long and had only been baptized in the Holy Spirit for just a little less time and still had many questions regarding healing. I still have many.

At work I was talking to a friend one day at lunch whole we were outside. As we spoke a fierce pain shot through my heart that staggered me so as to step backwards and I drew my left arm against my chest. My friend exclaimed "well Frank"!

I would lie in bed at night in the wee hours and with my heart aching. The Devil's voice, and at that time I didn't know it was his, would say "you're going to die. You'll never see your children and will leave your wife a young widow". I was very afraid and can remember well the cold sweat that formed over my body and even the palms of my hands were wet. I didn't tell my wife and wanted her to be hidden from fears. The spirit of fear holds great sway until you learn, are taught to rebuke him and that you've overcome him by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony and anointing of the Holy Spirit. I didn't know any of that yet so suffered spiritual as well as physical pain. Don't be fooled, fear is a spirit.

Yet in the midst of this I never considered going to a doctor. I'm no superman and we have a fine Christian doctor but it seemed I should not go. This went on for some while. The church we were attending was a spirit filled, anointed place of worship and believed God for everything. One Sunday night we had a guest evangelist who also moved in prophecy and healing gifts. As he ministered he said "there are two men here who are having heart issues. One is an older man, the other younger. The spirit of the Lord is here to heal and if you'll step out in faith and come forward for prayer you will be healed".

I got up and an older church friend did also and we went to the altar. The minister and elders anointed us with oil and prayed. There was no lightning or any evidence, only God's word and faith in us all. The next day at work as I climbed some stairs a terrible pain shot through my chest and the devil said "you're going to die"! Instead of fearing I began to run up those stairs and at the top I told him "devil, you have no power over me. If you ca it get past the blood of Jesus, the word of God and anointing of the Holy Spirit then you have my permission to kill me"! He had no reply. If we believe we will act on what we really believe, this is faith.

Since that Sunday in 1977 I have often had many chest pains. Out hunting in the forests my heart would begin to hurt and I would lean my rife against a tree and get on my knees and pray. I'd ask the Lord to take away those symptoms. I would say "Lord you've not sent me word that there was a time limit on my healing or that it has been revoked". After awhile the pin would leave and I'd continue on.

I've had to pray many times since then but I still continue to thank Him for healing me. What is faith? Faith is acting on what you really believe. Thanksgiving is not once a year but every day, or should be. If not for His healing word I would be long gone.

Because of His care for me I did get to see the children He sent. I have seen days and weeks and years with my dearest wife of fifty years. The smallest good thing in your life is worthy of shouting hallelujah because most people upon this earth do not have any good things at all.

A song was heard coming from a shack in a sad place of abject poverty in another country. Corrie Ten Boom heard wafting through the air by one of the wretchedly poor the words sung "where Jesus is tis' heaven.

Thanksgiving is not a day its a way of life. Consider, are you truly thankful?

Psalm 100:4-5 KJVS
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name. [5] For the Lord is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.

 

[wolfwint]

Forty years ago when Jesus came for me in the rural wooded country where we live, I was having severe chest pains. I had a small hobby sawmill there where I cut lumber from the logs I felled and skidded on our place. It was very hard work and a welcome change from my office type profession. I sat on a log one day with my heart just throbbing with pain. I hadn't been a Christian too long and had only been baptized in the Holy Spirit for just a little less time and still had many questions regarding healing. I still have many.

At work I was talking to a friend one day at lunch whole we were outside. As we spoke a fierce pain shot through my heart that staggered me so as to step backwards and I drew my left arm against my chest. My friend exclaimed "well Frank"!

I would lie in bed at night in the wee hours and with my heart aching. The Devil's voice, and at that time I didn't know it was his, would say "you're going to die. You'll never see your children and will leave your wife a young widow". I was very afraid and can remember well the cold sweat that formed over my body and even the palms of my hands were wet. I didn't tell my wife and wanted her to be hidden from fears. The spirit of fear holds great sway until you learn, are taught to rebuke him and that you've overcome him by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony and anointing of the Holy Spirit. I didn't know any of that yet so suffered spiritual as well as physical pain. Don't be fooled, fear is a spirit.

Yet in the midst of this I never considered going to a doctor. I'm no superman and we have a fine Christian doctor but it seemed I should not go. This went on for some while. The church we were attending was a spirit filled, anointed place of worship and believed God for everything. One Sunday night we had a guest evangelist who also moved in prophecy and healing gifts. As he ministered he said "there are two men here who are having heart issues. One is an older man, the other younger. The spirit of the Lord is here to heal and if you'll step out in faith and come forward for prayer you will be healed".

I got up and an older church friend did also and we went to the altar. The minister and elders anointed us with oil and prayed. There was no lightning or any evidence, only God's word and faith in us all. The next day at work as I climbed some stairs a terrible pain shot through my chest and the devil said "you're going to die"! Instead of fearing I began to run up those stairs and at the top I told him "devil, you have no power over me. If you ca it get past the blood of Jesus, the word of God and anointing of the Holy Spirit then you have my permission to kill me"! He had no reply. If we believe we will act on what we really believe, this is faith.

Since that Sunday in 1977 I have often had many chest pains. Out hunting in the forests my heart would begin to hurt and I would lean my rife against a tree and get on my knees and pray. I'd ask the Lord to take away those symptoms. I would say "Lord you've not sent me word that there was a time limit on my healing or that it has been revoked". After awhile the pin would leave and I'd continue on.

I've had to pray many times since then but I still continue to thank Him for healing me. What is faith? Faith is acting on what you really believe. Thanksgiving is not once a year but every day, or should be. If not for His healing word I would be long gone.

Because of His care for me I did get to see the children He sent. I have seen days and weeks and years with my dearest wife of fifty years. The smallest good thing in your life is worthy of shouting hallelujah because most people upon this earth do not have any good things at all.

A song was heard coming from a shack in a sad place of abject poverty in another country. Corrie Ten Boom heard wafting through the air by one of the wretchedly poor the words sung "where Jesus is tis' heaven.

Thanksgiving is not a day its a way of life. Consider, are you truly thankful?

Psalm 100:4-5 KJVS
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name. [5] For the Lord is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.

Yes, praise the Lord, that he heales you!!! But we have also to realize that he heales not every christian! Thats a fact! Lack on faith? Ore is it even not in his plan to heal every christian physically from there deseases?