The King James Bible

[preacher4truth]

he travels debating or soul-winning?

Both, obviously. But I'd be careful to sit in judgment on another's evangelistic efforts when they believe the Gospel and aren't mystic, ecumenical &c when our own efforts need to be our greatest concern. I know you already know this brother.

 

[preacher4truth]

Dude, I know that's the link, but the '?' needs replaced with a '!!!!!'...

Yes, it most certainly does!

 

[preacher4truth]

Well, if you are going to over react....and play the KJVOnlyist card without actually addressing how John 16:13 in ALL Bibles opposes what Romans 8:26-27 in that same modern Bible, then I reckon the truth is not your concern.

I never said the KJV can save you. Any one can use any Bible version to preach the gospel.

I didn't overreact, I consistently applied your logic and KJVO cultic thought process.

And I didn't accuse you of saying the KJV saves people, you added it as a necessity to Jesus saving. That's a false gospel.

 

[Enow]

What is interesting is how the KJV bible worded Romans 8:34, afew other bibles have done it too, using (who also makes intercession) basically the KJV did not do a very good translation of that, if someone believes Jesus is the only Intercessor.

In just this short list it appears the KJV and the NASB both have the Intercessor as more than one, in saying (who also intercedes) that isn't a good translation IMO. the berean study bible says it properly (He is interceding for us)

You are applying "also" to mean another intercessor when it is in addition to the reference to Jesus being at the right hand of God.

Romans 8:[SUP]32 [/SUP]He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?[SUP] 33 [/SUP]Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.[SUP] 34 [/SUP]Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

The Holy Spirit is the Comforter as dwelling within us; Jesus has asceneded to teh right hand of God the Father to make intercessions for us in according to the will of God.

Consider His words on how the prayer system is set up.

John 14:[SUP]6[/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.Do you believe Jesus really meant that or did He forget about the Holy Spirit?

Let's look further....

John 14:[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP] 14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

So it is the Son that answers prayers; He gives our intercessions, the Spirit's intercessions, and His own intercessions to the Father so that whenever the father says "Yes" to any of those intercession, the Son answers the prayers so that the Father may be glorified in the Son for answers to prayers as we are to give the Father thanks in Jesus's name.

1 Thessalonians 5:[SUP]17 [/SUP]Pray without ceasing.[SUP]18 [/SUP]In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

Colossians 1:[SUP]3 [/SUP]We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

The Holy Spirit does have a part in the Son's answering the prayer, bt even the Holy Spirit gives all the credit and glory to the Son for answers to prayers, and by doing so glorify God the Father as well.

John 16:[SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.[SUP] 14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.[SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

So should our Bible keep in alignment with His words or not? Do they keep His words in testifying of teh Son in seeking His glory or does it decline from that testimony and cease to honor the Son in that way?

John 5:[SUP]22 [/SUP]For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:[SUP]23 [/SUP]That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.....
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

 

[preacher4truth]

Dude, I know that's the link, but the '?' needs replaced with a '!!!!!'...

"King James Version only-ism cannot survive without double-standards." - Dr. James White.

He's absolutely correct, you see their double-standards on this site regularly. All of them also employ an inconsistent hermeneutic which is why most of their doctrine is false.

 

[Angela53510]

"But I say unto you, Thatevery idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in theday of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thoushalt be condemned." Matthew 12:37

Most people if not all are engaged in some sort of dialogue or debate concerning the word of God on this website. I think is safe to say we should choose our words very carefully and that it would be foolish for anyone to think that everything they have said or posted on this website concerning any topic is absolute truth, flawless, and without any error!

"..yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;.." 4 (Romans 3:4)

"Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." (Proverbs 30:6)

"So King Sennacherib of Assyria broke camp and went on his way. He went home and stayed in Nineveh." Isa. 37:37

"Take note of the one who has integrity! Observe the godly!
For the one who promotes peace has a future." Psalm 37:37

Wow! I think I have it! Thanks for giving this insight into how to properly read the Bible! Which can be done in any version. Because, I really needed to know what Sennacherib did!

And then there is Psalm 37:37! Definitely finding people without integrity can be an issue. Yet walking with God results in integrity and peace!

I don't know what I would have done, if you hadn't clued me into this gematria using the number 37!

 

[James37]

As far as I know semi-colons, commas, periods were added (iirc) by translators and weren't in mss. Do you honestly think God told the authors where to put a period, semi-colon, comma &c?

As far as numberals in Scripture they are there for differing reasons. But those are not the numbers I'm speaking of.

I'm speaking of verse numbers, chapter numbers &c. Don't attempt to conflate the 2, they are not the same thing.

The chapter and verse divisions are not the word of God. You are, in fact, adding to the word of God in how you employ your superstitious numerology. You are not a person that believes in what the Scriptures alone teach, you are adding to the Scriptures with your practice.

Any number whether it is printed, counted (such as a list of items in a verse)or the number of times words and names appear in the Bible are by divine order.

Jesus Christ = 7 x 7 x 4 in the KJB. 4 is the number for the 4 gospels that will blow life into some dead bones (Ezekiel 37:9)

 

[James37]

"So King Sennacherib of Assyria broke camp and went on his way. He went home and stayed in Nineveh." Isa. 37:37

"Take note of the one who has integrity! Observe the godly!
For the one who promotes peace has a future." Psalm 37:37

Wow! I think I have it! Thanks for giving this insight into how to properly read the Bible! Which can be done in any version. Because, I really needed to know what Sennacherib did!

And then there is Psalm 37:37! Definitely finding people without integrity can be an issue. Yet walking with God results in integrity and peace!

I don't know what I would have done, if you hadn't clued me into this gematria using the number 37!

You are about blind....read Psalm 37:37 carefully because there is a massive amount of wisdom in that verse and when the time is right I will discuss it.

 

[preacher4truth]

Jesus Christ = 7 x 7 x 4 in the KJV.

It's the KJV, not KJB, so I fixed that for you, but let's focus on your insulting words quoted:

The above is one example of how you just make up numerological nonsense.

Jesus isn't a numerical equation, and your above is sacrilegious. Your mitigation of our LORD is noted.

 

[preacher4truth]

You are about blind....read Psalm 37:37 carefully because there is a massive amount of wisdom in that verse and...

Not only are you name calling, you're bearing false witness against a good sister, Angela53510.

 

[posthuman]

"So King Sennacherib of Assyria broke camp and went on his way. He went home and stayed in Nineveh." Isa. 37:37

"Take note of the one who has integrity! Observe the godly!
For the one who promotes peace has a future." Psalm 37:37

Wow! I think I have it! Thanks for giving this insight into how to properly read the Bible! Which can be done in any version. Because, I really needed to know what Sennacherib did!

And then there is Psalm 37:37! Definitely finding people without integrity can be an issue. Yet walking with God results in integrity and peace!

I don't know what I would have done, if you hadn't clued me into this gematria using the number 37!

Angela you're only supposed to read every 3rd and then 7th word.

Sennacherib
On
He

Of
The
The
Future

Make sense now?
100% undeniable proof, right?

 

[Angela53510]

You are about blind....read Psalm 37:37 carefully because there is a massive amount of wisdom in that verse and when the time is right I will discuss it.

I do give up! That whole post of mine was satire. But, if you actually wanted to exegete Psalm 37:37 or all of Psalm 37, I would love to do it. Unless you start in with the nonsense numbers, and then forget it.

I've read and preached from the Psalms. Not Psalm 37, but they all have great meaning for me.

I really was only trying to show you how absurd what you are doing is. Sheesh! This guy really is out of it!

 

[preacher4truth]

Angela you're only supposed to read every 3rd and then 7th word.

Sennacherib
On
He

Of
The
The
Future

Make sense now?
100% undeniable proof, right?

Thanks
for
going
through
the
trouble
of
doing
the
above.

I now see clearly!

 

[James37]

It's the KJV, not KJB, so I fixed that for you, but let's focus on your insulting words quoted:

The above is one example of how you just make up numerological nonsense.

Jesus isn't a numerical equation, and your above is sacrilegious. Your mitigation of our LORD is noted.

You are right, he isn't an equation but that is the number of times "Jesus Christ" occurs in the King James Bible and what I am saying is it is by divine order.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

I would like to share some information concerning the King James Bible if anyone is interested. This information concerns proof that the King James Bible is the word of God preserved for us in the English.

i would agree that the kjv is a valid translation of a true bible


but if you are saying no other english translation is also the preserved word of God

proving that would involve breaking down every other english translation word for word until you found blasphemy in it right?

 

[SovereignGrace]

You are right, he isn't an equation but that is the number of times "Jesus Christ" occurs in the King James Bible and what I am saying is it is by divine order.

New American Standard BIBLE...

 

[James37]

I do give up! That whole post of mine was satire. But, if you actually wanted to exegete Psalm 37:37 or all of Psalm 37, I would love to do it. Unless you start in with the nonsense numbers, and then forget it.

I've read and preached from the Psalms. Not Psalm 37, but they all have great meaning for me.

I really was only trying to show you how absurd what you are doing is. Sheesh! This guy really is out of it!

Actually Isaiah 37 and Psalm 37 are on my to do list and I will add Genesis 37 where you will probably find the greatest Old Testament type for Jesus Christ in the Bible. As far as Psalms 37 is concerned I will read what you have to say about it.

 

[preacher4truth]

You are right, he isn't an equation

Yes, you've sacrilegiously mitigated the LORD with your numerical nonsense.

There is no such thing as the KJB, that is only code verbiage of a KJVOnly cultist.

While you're on your 37 bad trip, you need to seriously contemplate John 3:7.

 

[SovereignGrace]

While you're on your 37 bad trip, you need to seriously contemplate John 3:7.

 

[IamWhoIam]

Any number whether it is printed, counted (such as a list of items in a verse)or the number of times words and names appear in the Bible are by divine order.

Jesus Christ = 7 x 7 x 4 in the KJB. 4 is the number for the 4 gospels that will blow life into some dead bones (Ezekiel 37:9)

Your finding some good stuff, keep up the solid work my friend.