FLAT EARTH

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Look at the camera floating back and forth from curve to flat to concave, yea not much facts in that.
 
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You are absolutely right.

It can definitely be a reverse fish eye..


Except that when there is turbulence, the frame remains distortion free, unlike a fish eye that warps the edges of the frame under the same conditions.

If you have a go pro or similar fish eye cam test it and you will see what I mean.
Oh, so the argument is that when there isn't curvature some kind of magic "reverse fish eye" is used that causes no distortion whatsoever.

And when there is curvature, it's "REAL" curvature, despite the plain evidence everything else in the video is distorted by it.
 

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I like this video, most of the cameras have a fish eye lenses, but the one inside the fuselage of the rocket is fixed, facing straight out the fuselage, so it nullifys any fish eye effect, and it turns, and there is still curve, plus it's a lot higher than just 120,000 feet :)

[video=youtube;bDoh8zQDT38]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDoh8zQDT38&t=103s[/video]
 
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I don't understand what you mean.

You claim it may not have been tweaked, and then immediately say "no doubt" it uses the fish eye effect.


It's clear the video you posted was using the fish eye effect before the balloon even left the ground, and it was clearly using it when it reached heights barely off the ground.

The video I posted showed no signs of a "fish eye" effect whatsoever.

Can you explain what you mean?
You need to look at that video again there is a slight concave of the surface
the video you posted does show continous fish eye concave because the camera only pans left to right just a few inches, so yea there is no proof of a flat earth in that video
 
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I like this video, most of the cameras have a fish eye lenses, but the one inside the fuselage of the rocket is fixed, facing straight out the fuselage, so it nullifys any fish eye effect, and it turns, and there is still curve, plus it's a lot higher than just 120,000 feet :)

[video=youtube;bDoh8zQDT38]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDoh8zQDT38&t=103s[/video]

That is directly from GoPro.....

I'm just saying there's a very slim chance it may be doctored footage...
 

MichaelOwen

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That is directly from GoPro.....

I'm just saying there's a very slim chance it may be doctored footage...
It could be, you're right, you can doctor GoPro any which way. I don't know, I'd like to try this sometime you know?
 
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You need to look at that video again there is a slight concave of the surface
the video you posted does show continous fish eye concave because the camera only pans left to right just a few inches, so yea there is no proof of a flat earth in that video
Fish eyes are in place when there isn't curvature, fish eyes are not in place when ther is curvature. Gotcha

Can you please analyze this video for me? You and all of your people ignore it every time I have posted it in the past.

It's only 2 minutes, and you only need to watch the first 1:30

[video=youtube;AWJpjgWoR1k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWJpjgWoR1k[/video]
 
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It could be, you're right, you can doctor GoPro any which way. I don't know, I'd like to try this sometime you know?

I have wide knowledge in UAV and RC systems.

If you got the budget I can help you do something like this...

:)
 

MichaelOwen

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I have wide knowledge in UAV and RC systems.

If you got the budget I can help you do something like this...

:)
That would be a ton of fun just to do. You know you support and work and supply the parts to rockets, but building one and flying it and attaching a camera to it, that wouldn't be too much do you think?
 
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I like this video, most of the cameras have a fish eye lenses, but the one inside the fuselage of the rocket is fixed, facing straight out the fuselage, so it nullifys any fish eye effect, and it turns, and there is still curve, plus it's a lot higher than just 120,000 feet :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDoh8zQDT38&t=103s
Can you explain to me why that footage looks nothing like this footage whatsoever?

[video=youtube;Ip2ZGND1I9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip2ZGND1I9Q[/video]

Are they both real, or is one fake? Which one is fake? Why would they fake one?
 
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That would be a ton of fun just to do. You know you support and work and supply the parts to rockets, but building one and flying it and attaching a camera to it, that wouldn't be too much do you think?

The biggest issue is the FAA, all unmanned civilian aircraft is capped at 400ft, unless you have special permission.

Now, you can do it, but the fallout may be intense....

If you do it with the intention to prove flat earth i guarantee you will hit a lot of brick walls.

If I had the budget and the time I would have already done something like this.
 
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Fish eyes are in place when there isn't curvature, fish eyes are not in place when ther is curvature. Gotcha

Can you please analyze this video for me? You and all of your people ignore it every time I have posted it in the past.

It's only 2 minutes, and you only need to watch the first 1:30

[video=youtube;AWJpjgWoR1k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWJpjgWoR1k[/video]
fish eye wasn't created when there is no curvature, that is creating a theory out of thin air.

Gotcha and the dude in the video, look at it closing there are no flippers want in the world is that dude saying,

another astronaut is taking the video, and there are no flippers in the vid. And the other dude has the same space suite on.
 
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fish eye wasn't created when there is no curvature, that is creating a theory out of thin air.

Gotcha and the dude in the video, look at it closing there are no flippers want in the world is that dude saying,

another astronaut is taking the video, and there are no flippers in the vid.
So an astronaut in a black suit risks his life outside in the vacuum of space to hold a camera and take footage (when a fixed camera could do the same thing)? This is what you believe?

Thanks for acknowledging the video, no one ever does that.
 
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So an astronaut in a black suit risks his life outside in the vacuum of space to hold a camera and take footage (when a fixed camera could do the same thing)? This is what you believe?

Hey thanks for acknowledging the video, I mean that at least your convictions are strong and you respect the other side enough to humor it.
You say black suit, because your not thinking, because the other dude is behind the craft and not in direct sunlight, that was easy to debunk.

the spaceship doesn't have 1000 camera's all over the place really.
 
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You say black suit, because your not thinking, the camera light is not on him duh, that was easy to debunk.

the spaceship doesn't have 1000 camera's all over the place really.
Oh so he is engulfed in shadow and appears to be wearing a black suit, something we have never seen before of an astronaut in a white suit. The silhouette is off as well.

And that footage is so important that astronaut venture out, uses resources, and risk their life in the vacuum of space to capture it.
 
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Oh so he is engulfed in shadow and appears to be wearing a black suit, something we have never seen before of an astronaut in a white suit. The silhouette is off as well.

And that footage is so important that astronaut venture out, uses resources, and risk their life in the vacuum of space to capture it.
That is what the space suit is for to protect the person in space, astronauts do space walking all the time in space.

he is behind the structure so yea the lighting and the silhouette will look different than the person who isn't behind a structure.
 

Dino246

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"smackdown"? You really have a fantastical recollection of events. A time and date and actual credible source/picture are very relevant.
I explained the non-issue with time and date and with "credibility" of sources. Here is the link to my post, #526: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/153876-earth-flat-stationary-27.html

You responded by changing the line on your map representing the southernmost transit of the sun's path, so that it would encompass Sydney, AU. In the same thread, #745, GaryA responded to you with a firm rebuke for your response.

I guess my recollection is not so "fantastical".

Eventually, you may learn that accusing others of dishonesty, while committing it yourself, wins you nothing but scorn.

By the way, you still haven't provided a sound explanation, but rather dodge and swerve from dealing with this rather inconvenient truth.
 

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In 2017 if you still believe the Earth is flat, you should never be allowed on social media again
 
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In 2017 if you still believe the Earth is flat, you should never be allowed on social media again
Instead of putting people down with the whole "modernity" card, you should ask yourself why is it that we are far less refined as a society than we were 60 years ago.
 
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I explained the non-issue with time and date and with "credibility" of sources. Here is the link to my post, #526: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/153876-earth-flat-stationary-27.html

You responded by changing the line on your map representing the southernmost transit of the sun's path, so that it would encompass Sydney, AU. In the same thread, #745, GaryA responded to you with a firm rebuke for your response.

I guess my recollection is not so "fantastical".

Eventually, you may learn that accusing others of dishonesty, while committing it yourself, wins you nothing but scorn.

By the way, you still haven't provided a sound explanation, but rather dodge and swerve from dealing with this rather inconvenient truth.
Explain to me why it would be impossible for the sun to be in that location on a flat earth. Your entire question and challenge is meaningless, do you understand this? You are saying "look where the sun is", this disproves a flat earth". It doesn't disprove or prove anything at all. I have no idea what kind of answer you are looking for or why you think this means anything at all. You are severely confused and repeat this meaningless questions for months, you do not get an "answer" for it, because the question has no meaning.
 
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