why would millennial kingdom not be literal?
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It is based upon how Christ and the apostles handled Scripture. That should be reason enough to take Scripture in its plain literal sense. Certainly, there are symbols and metaphors in Revelation, but they are also clarified as we go along. For example the seven golden candlesticks (lampstands) are shown to represent the seven churches of Asia Minor.
u mean how they overstood literally the building of david's tabernacle in acts 15?
Acts 15:14-19New American Standard Bible (NASB)
14 Simeon has related how God first concerned Himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for His name. 15 With this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written,
16 ‘After these things I will return,
And I will rebuild the [a]tabernacle of David which has fallen,
And I will rebuild its ruins,
And I will restore it,
17 So that the rest of [b]mankind may seek the Lord,
And all the Gentiles [c]who are called by My name,’
18 Says the Lord, who [d]makes these things known from long ago.
19 Therefore it is my judgment that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles,
sounds like it was fulfilled spiritually u see........ the apostles didnt always hold to the literal hermeneutic. if u guys would read that from the ot where it says rebuild it just as it was before. u would say it used to be a real building so it will be a real building again in the future u see......
Acts 15:14-19New American Standard Bible (NASB)
14 Simeon has related how God first concerned Himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for His name. 15 With this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written,
16 ‘After these things I will return,
And I will rebuild the [a]tabernacle of David which has fallen,
And I will rebuild its ruins,
And I will restore it,
17 So that the rest of [b]mankind may seek the Lord,
And all the Gentiles [c]who are called by My name,’
18 Says the Lord, who [d]makes these things known from long ago.
19 Therefore it is my judgment that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles,
sounds like it was fulfilled spiritually u see........ the apostles didnt always hold to the literal hermeneutic. if u guys would read that from the ot where it says rebuild it just as it was before. u would say it used to be a real building so it will be a real building again in the future u see......
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Christ and the apostles interpreted Scripture at two levels: (1) the literal, which was generally applicable and (2) the deeper spiritual meaning, which was also provided. For example "Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness" was literally interpreted by Paul as the basis of justification by grace through faith. At the same time Paul taught that the literal Sarah and Hagar were also allegorical in that they represented the New Covenant and the Old Covenant respectively. Who would have imagined that unless Paul had revealed it by the Spirit?
Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is [H]Agar. For this [H]Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children [to the Old Covenant],But Jerusalem which is above is free [the New Covenant with the New Jerusalem], which is the mother of us all. (Gal 4:24-26).
Of course it is different, but the principles of interpretation do not change. We know it is a prophetic book which primarily reveals future events. But there is a chronological sequence within this book starting with the glorified Christ and ending with the New Heavens and the New Earth.
There are parenthetical portions also, but the whole idea of biblical hermeneutics is to sort out the various aspects and determine properly as to what is being revealed. Preterists and Partial Preterists who claim that Revelation has all (or almost all) been fulfilled are forcing allegorical interpretations onto real, literal events which will take place in the future. We can understand that the Reformers were trying to cast the existing pope as the Antichrist, but that doe not justify erroneous interpretation which renders everything as imaginary.
Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is [H]Agar. For this [H]Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children [to the Old Covenant],But Jerusalem which is above is free [the New Covenant with the New Jerusalem], which is the mother of us all. (Gal 4:24-26).
Of course it is different, but the principles of interpretation do not change. We know it is a prophetic book which primarily reveals future events. But there is a chronological sequence within this book starting with the glorified Christ and ending with the New Heavens and the New Earth.
There are parenthetical portions also, but the whole idea of biblical hermeneutics is to sort out the various aspects and determine properly as to what is being revealed. Preterists and Partial Preterists who claim that Revelation has all (or almost all) been fulfilled are forcing allegorical interpretations onto real, literal events which will take place in the future. We can understand that the Reformers were trying to cast the existing pope as the Antichrist, but that doe not justify erroneous interpretation which renders everything as imaginary.
You let the Bible interpret the bible
For example if we are willing to be guided solely by the Bible description of this “beast”
and to let the Bible interpret the symbols used to describe it, we come to the inevitable
conclusion that the beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire, of 31 b.c. to a.d. 476!
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/160854-fourth-beast-daniel.html#post3369696
For example if we are willing to be guided solely by the Bible description of this “beast”
and to let the Bible interpret the symbols used to describe it, we come to the inevitable
conclusion that the beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire, of 31 b.c. to a.d. 476!
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/160854-fourth-beast-daniel.html#post3369696
Not so, we read in verse 16 that this will be when Christ returns.
This plainly has not happened yet.
16After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David,
which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Jeremiah 12:15 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass, after that I have plucked them out I will return,
and have compassion on them, and will bring them again, every man to
his heritage, and every man to his land.
Jeremiah 33:11 (KJV)
The voice of joy, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and
the voice of the bride, the voice of them that shall say, Praise the Lord of hosts:
for the Lord is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: and of them that shall bring
the sacrifice of praise into the house of the Lord. For I will cause to return the
captivity of the land, as at the first, saith the Lord.
This plainly has not happened yet.
16After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David,
which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Jeremiah 12:15 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass, after that I have plucked them out I will return,
and have compassion on them, and will bring them again, every man to
his heritage, and every man to his land.
Jeremiah 33:11 (KJV)
The voice of joy, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and
the voice of the bride, the voice of them that shall say, Praise the Lord of hosts:
for the Lord is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: and of them that shall bring
the sacrifice of praise into the house of the Lord. For I will cause to return the
captivity of the land, as at the first, saith the Lord.
While you have coined the word "overstood" the rest of us use the word "understood". In any even, you have misunderstood (or should we say misoverstood?) what was stated in Acts 15, since you must go to Amos 9:11-15 to grasp what was being presented.
In Amos we have a prophecy regarding the Millennium and the period beyond it, when the Gentile nations will exist on earth as saved nations. And what was indicated in Acts is that the beginning of the fulfillment of that prophecy had taken place with the salvation of Cornelius and his household through the ministry of Peter.
So that did not mean that the tabernacle of David was being "spiritualized" or had been fulfilled during the Apostolic Age. It was simply an acknowledgment that Gentiles were no longer excluded from the promises to Israel, and when David became the king of Israel under Christ (as revealed in Ezekiel) there would be saved nations of the Gentiles surrounding redeemed and restored Israel. This is all shown in the prophecy of Amos.
DAVID'S THRONE TO BE RE-ESTABLISHED
11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
THE HEATHEN GENTILES TO BE SAVED
12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
REDEEMED AND RESTORED ISRAEL TO HAVE ABUNDANCE OF BLESSINGS
13 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.
14 And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.
ISRAEL TO BE ESTABLISHED IN THE PROMISED LAND
15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
In Amos we have a prophecy regarding the Millennium and the period beyond it, when the Gentile nations will exist on earth as saved nations. And what was indicated in Acts is that the beginning of the fulfillment of that prophecy had taken place with the salvation of Cornelius and his household through the ministry of Peter.
So that did not mean that the tabernacle of David was being "spiritualized" or had been fulfilled during the Apostolic Age. It was simply an acknowledgment that Gentiles were no longer excluded from the promises to Israel, and when David became the king of Israel under Christ (as revealed in Ezekiel) there would be saved nations of the Gentiles surrounding redeemed and restored Israel. This is all shown in the prophecy of Amos.
DAVID'S THRONE TO BE RE-ESTABLISHED
11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
THE HEATHEN GENTILES TO BE SAVED
12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
REDEEMED AND RESTORED ISRAEL TO HAVE ABUNDANCE OF BLESSINGS
13 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.
14 And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.
ISRAEL TO BE ESTABLISHED IN THE PROMISED LAND
15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
I would think they do not deal with it .There is no literal thousands of years before or after. The last day is the resurrection and final judgement both will occur in the same twinkling of the eye..as both those reigning on earth and the other asleep .The End. of time .the Sun and the moon under the feet of the bride the church
The two resurrections (not three) do include the first when Christ said it was finished the promised glory came. The Old testament saints that were in a temporal holding cell came out of the graves and entered the heavenly Jerusalem, the eternal land .
1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
The glory that followed IS the first resurrection.
The promise to those in 1 Peter 1 :11 it reads
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, Eze 37:12
brought you up out of your graves.....the first resuurection
All who die before the last day have a part of the first resurrection the glory spoken of in 1 Peter 1 :11
On the last day those who remain reigning with Christ on earth will be caught together with those asleep and both receive the promise they died not receiving....a newly created incorruptible body of a unknown form . (Neither male not female Jew nor gentile)
1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
The glory that followed IS the first resurrection.
The promise to those in 1 Peter 1 :11 it reads
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, Eze 37:12
brought you up out of your graves.....the first resuurection
All who die before the last day have a part of the first resurrection the glory spoken of in 1 Peter 1 :11
On the last day those who remain reigning with Christ on earth will be caught together with those asleep and both receive the promise they died not receiving....a newly created incorruptible body of a unknown form . (Neither male not female Jew nor gentile)
Once the true believers / church have been gathered there is no more salvation, the time of salvation is over and it will be the time of judgment as described in Zeph. 1:14-18 or as even described in Rev. 14:19, 19:15 it is a time of doom and gloom. It is also a times of darkness in which Mt. 24:49 which means that there is no more word of God in which people may become saved, because the word of God represents light.
Again you are denying the fact he only comes back once as stated in Heb. 12:26 and Hag. 2:6 and at this time it is the day of judgment for all of the unsaved and the day of redemption for all of the saved. Can you provide a verse or verses that shows that Christ establishes his millennial kingdom on this earth.
Again you are denying the fact he only comes back once as stated in Heb. 12:26 and Hag. 2:6 and at this time it is the day of judgment for all of the unsaved and the day of redemption for all of the saved. Can you provide a verse or verses that shows that Christ establishes his millennial kingdom on this earth.
Well actually he does. Satan and the Antichrist are two of the Unholy Trinity (with the False Prophet as the third entity). Ever since Lucifer (now Satan) was created, his highest ambition was to replace God and be worshiped as God. And that is what he will achieve for 3 1/2 years. Both the Devil and the Beast will be worshiped by the ENTIRE UNBELIEVING WORLD. So read and study Revelation 13.