When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?
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It is a lot to read but please read it so you can see what the Bible teaches.
Yes He was and the evangelists being moved by the Spirit made it a point to make it known that the Sabbath had past and that it was the first day of the week and that it was around 6 A.M. If the Spirit wanted to show that the Lord had risen on the Sabbath He would have lead the women to go to the Tomb immeditately after 6 P.M. There is penty of sunshine at that time in the spring in Jerusalem, I have been there at that time in that season. But the Spirit did not do that He waited 12 hours to bring the women to the Tomb to show it was empty here is what they recorded to make sure that we know it was before 6 A.M. or between 3 A.M. and 6 A.M. that He rose from the dead after His suffering and crucifixion and being placed in the Tomb, with it being 72 hours since these things to happen like the disciples said in Luke 24:21 "it is now the third day since these things happened." after saying "how our chief priests and rulers delivered him up to be condemned to death, and crucified him." in Luke 24:20.
Matthew 28:1 "Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn"
Mark 16:1-2 "Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him.2Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen."
Luke 24:1 "Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning"
John 20:1 "Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark"
Very early in the morning, with more information, began to dawn and it was early, while it was still dark and the sun had risen, so it was the time when the sun was beginning to brake or risen so around 5 A.M. to 6 A.M. Which is very important because we have a time frame for the time the Spirit wanted to establish, with the Spirit making it known that the Sabbath had past and it was the first day of the week. To mark at time and a day, so we can know when the 72 hour period started and ended for the sufferings of Christ, He was condemned to death, crucified, put to death, buried and rose the thrid day. Jesus predicts the starting time that His suffering would start and the evangelists gave us details as to the day the sufferings started, the day He was killed on the cross placed in the Tomb and rose from the dead, to complete the 72 hour period that He predicted in His teaching of 3 days and nights in the heart of the earth.
Luke 22:54 "Having arrested Him, they led Him and brought Him into the high priest’s house. But Peter followed at a distance.55Now when they had kindled a fire in the midst of the courtyard and sat down together, Peter sat among them....60But Peter said, “Man, I do not know what you are saying!”Immediately, while he was still speaking, the rooster crowed.
61And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. Then Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how He had said to him, “Before the rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.”
62So Peter went out and wept bitterly.
63Now the men who held Jesus mocked Him and beat Him.64And having blindfolded Him, they struck Him on the face and asked Him, saying, “Prophesy! Who is the one who struck You?”65And many other things they blasphemously spoke against Him."
These verses show that while Jesus was in the high preist's house, that Peter was in the courtyard and once Peter denied the Lord, the men that were in the high priest's house begin to mock, strick Him or the beginning of His sufferings that He taught His disciple that He would suffer. The rooster growing maks the last watch for the Romans, which is 3 A.M. on Thursday. Here is how we know that it is Thursday.
Mark 15:42 “Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,” Luke 23:54 “That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near.” John 19:31 “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)” So they are not talking about the weekly Sabbath, they are talking about the holy convocation or Leviticus 23:4-8,
“‘These are the feasts of the Lord, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times.5On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord’s Passover.6And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; seven days you must eat unleavened bread.7On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.8But you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord for seven days. The seventh day shall be a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.’”
This was the Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord, how do we know that it is a Thursday? Matthew 27:62 “On the next day, which followed the Day of Preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees gathered together to Pilate,” Here the chief priest and the Pharisees come to Pilate the day after the Day of Preperation, what was their reason? Matthew 27:63 “and said, “Sir, we remember how that impostor said, while he was still alive, ‘After three days I will rise.’” This is Friday and they are saying, "after three days I will rise" if Jesus rose on the Sabbath He would of only been in the Tomb two days, because John 19:31 says that they took His body down so it would not be on the cross on this high day Sabbath or Friday.
With the time frame given by the deniel of Jesus by Peter and the beginning of the Last watch when this happens. We have the time frame, Thursday at 3 A.M. and the women coming to the Tomb after the weekly Sabbath had past at around 6 A.M. There is one other time frame given the sixth hour or noon of our Thursday or the Day of Preperation before the high day Sabbath. So we have by Scripture that the Day of Preperation is Thursday and His suffering starts at 3 A.M. and the women come to the Tome at 6 A.M. on the first day of the week or what we now call Sunday. So between 3 A.M. and 6 A.M. the Lord rose from the dead and it marks the 3 days and nights or the 72 hour period that Chirst begin to suffer and then rose from the dead.
The first three pages of posts that you posted were about what a Jewish day is, when it starts and ends, which anyone that has researched the Jewish culture already knows, but it has not one thing to do with the 72 hour period of Christ's suffering, being put to death placed in the Tomb and rising. I also believed that He was crucified on a Wednesday to fulfill the 72 hours. But with the evidence of the Sabbath passing and the first day being around 5-6 A.M. when the Tomb was found empty I could not justify Wednesday because that would put Jesus in the Tomb for 3 days and 4 nights and that is not what He taught and a Thursday crucifixion and being placed in the Tomb before 6 P.M. and rising before 6 A.M. the first day of the week, only places Him in the Tomb for 2 days and 3 nights. This is why I searched the Scripture to find what He acctually taught. With His suffering starting around the time of the rooster crow or 3 A.M. Thursday and Him rising between 3 A.M. and 6 A.M. on Sunday morning that fulfills the 72 hour period. Lets not forget that Psalm 22 need to be fulfilled as well as other of the full atoning work of Christ it is not just the Tomb. Not only did Jesus not literally teach this, but the apostles never taught it either, there is no Scripture that says Jesus was in the Tomb for 3 days and nights in the Bible. The reason I know that is I cannot find any and if there were any you and your friends would of posted them.
I know that you will not believe this but it is what the Bible teaches about Christ's teachings and the Spirit gave us time frames or things that mark time frames. So that we can know that He suffered, was crucified, died and was placed in the Tomb on the Day of Preperation or the day before the high day Sabbath that fell that year the day before the weekly Sabbath.
I know that you posted lots of things to make your point but they have nothing to do with Christ's teachings or the marked times that the Spirit recorded for us to know that Jesus suffered and rose in those 3 days and nights or 72 hour period.
God Bless.
Yes He was and the evangelists being moved by the Spirit made it a point to make it known that the Sabbath had past and that it was the first day of the week and that it was around 6 A.M. If the Spirit wanted to show that the Lord had risen on the Sabbath He would have lead the women to go to the Tomb immeditately after 6 P.M. There is penty of sunshine at that time in the spring in Jerusalem, I have been there at that time in that season. But the Spirit did not do that He waited 12 hours to bring the women to the Tomb to show it was empty here is what they recorded to make sure that we know it was before 6 A.M. or between 3 A.M. and 6 A.M. that He rose from the dead after His suffering and crucifixion and being placed in the Tomb, with it being 72 hours since these things to happen like the disciples said in Luke 24:21 "it is now the third day since these things happened." after saying "how our chief priests and rulers delivered him up to be condemned to death, and crucified him." in Luke 24:20.
Matthew 28:1 "Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn"
Mark 16:1-2 "Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him.2Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen."
Luke 24:1 "Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning"
John 20:1 "Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark"
Very early in the morning, with more information, began to dawn and it was early, while it was still dark and the sun had risen, so it was the time when the sun was beginning to brake or risen so around 5 A.M. to 6 A.M. Which is very important because we have a time frame for the time the Spirit wanted to establish, with the Spirit making it known that the Sabbath had past and it was the first day of the week. To mark at time and a day, so we can know when the 72 hour period started and ended for the sufferings of Christ, He was condemned to death, crucified, put to death, buried and rose the thrid day. Jesus predicts the starting time that His suffering would start and the evangelists gave us details as to the day the sufferings started, the day He was killed on the cross placed in the Tomb and rose from the dead, to complete the 72 hour period that He predicted in His teaching of 3 days and nights in the heart of the earth.
Luke 22:54 "Having arrested Him, they led Him and brought Him into the high priest’s house. But Peter followed at a distance.55Now when they had kindled a fire in the midst of the courtyard and sat down together, Peter sat among them....60But Peter said, “Man, I do not know what you are saying!”Immediately, while he was still speaking, the rooster crowed.
61And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. Then Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how He had said to him, “Before the rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.”
62So Peter went out and wept bitterly.
63Now the men who held Jesus mocked Him and beat Him.64And having blindfolded Him, they struck Him on the face and asked Him, saying, “Prophesy! Who is the one who struck You?”65And many other things they blasphemously spoke against Him."
These verses show that while Jesus was in the high preist's house, that Peter was in the courtyard and once Peter denied the Lord, the men that were in the high priest's house begin to mock, strick Him or the beginning of His sufferings that He taught His disciple that He would suffer. The rooster growing maks the last watch for the Romans, which is 3 A.M. on Thursday. Here is how we know that it is Thursday.
Mark 15:42 “Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,” Luke 23:54 “That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near.” John 19:31 “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)” So they are not talking about the weekly Sabbath, they are talking about the holy convocation or Leviticus 23:4-8,
“‘These are the feasts of the Lord, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times.5On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord’s Passover.6And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; seven days you must eat unleavened bread.7On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.8But you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord for seven days. The seventh day shall be a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.’”
This was the Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord, how do we know that it is a Thursday? Matthew 27:62 “On the next day, which followed the Day of Preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees gathered together to Pilate,” Here the chief priest and the Pharisees come to Pilate the day after the Day of Preperation, what was their reason? Matthew 27:63 “and said, “Sir, we remember how that impostor said, while he was still alive, ‘After three days I will rise.’” This is Friday and they are saying, "after three days I will rise" if Jesus rose on the Sabbath He would of only been in the Tomb two days, because John 19:31 says that they took His body down so it would not be on the cross on this high day Sabbath or Friday.
With the time frame given by the deniel of Jesus by Peter and the beginning of the Last watch when this happens. We have the time frame, Thursday at 3 A.M. and the women coming to the Tomb after the weekly Sabbath had past at around 6 A.M. There is one other time frame given the sixth hour or noon of our Thursday or the Day of Preperation before the high day Sabbath. So we have by Scripture that the Day of Preperation is Thursday and His suffering starts at 3 A.M. and the women come to the Tome at 6 A.M. on the first day of the week or what we now call Sunday. So between 3 A.M. and 6 A.M. the Lord rose from the dead and it marks the 3 days and nights or the 72 hour period that Chirst begin to suffer and then rose from the dead.
The first three pages of posts that you posted were about what a Jewish day is, when it starts and ends, which anyone that has researched the Jewish culture already knows, but it has not one thing to do with the 72 hour period of Christ's suffering, being put to death placed in the Tomb and rising. I also believed that He was crucified on a Wednesday to fulfill the 72 hours. But with the evidence of the Sabbath passing and the first day being around 5-6 A.M. when the Tomb was found empty I could not justify Wednesday because that would put Jesus in the Tomb for 3 days and 4 nights and that is not what He taught and a Thursday crucifixion and being placed in the Tomb before 6 P.M. and rising before 6 A.M. the first day of the week, only places Him in the Tomb for 2 days and 3 nights. This is why I searched the Scripture to find what He acctually taught. With His suffering starting around the time of the rooster crow or 3 A.M. Thursday and Him rising between 3 A.M. and 6 A.M. on Sunday morning that fulfills the 72 hour period. Lets not forget that Psalm 22 need to be fulfilled as well as other of the full atoning work of Christ it is not just the Tomb. Not only did Jesus not literally teach this, but the apostles never taught it either, there is no Scripture that says Jesus was in the Tomb for 3 days and nights in the Bible. The reason I know that is I cannot find any and if there were any you and your friends would of posted them.
I know that you will not believe this but it is what the Bible teaches about Christ's teachings and the Spirit gave us time frames or things that mark time frames. So that we can know that He suffered, was crucified, died and was placed in the Tomb on the Day of Preperation or the day before the high day Sabbath that fell that year the day before the weekly Sabbath.
I know that you posted lots of things to make your point but they have nothing to do with Christ's teachings or the marked times that the Spirit recorded for us to know that Jesus suffered and rose in those 3 days and nights or 72 hour period.
God Bless.
No I did not miss that, but you read more into that then it is. It is to mark days and nights to establish the 24 hour period a day, that marks appointed times or that we would know when the months and years have past so we can know the time that has past, like the Sabbath. The sun sets on the end of the Sabbath and once it passes, the first day of the week starts, 12 hours later early in the morning, while it is still dark and as the sun has risen or that twilight time establishes that what is taking palce or has taked place happened on that day. Not 12+ hours earlier, that should of been established as the sun was setting after the Sabbath, if one is trying to show that an event took place on the Sabbath. That is the reason the mention that the Sabbath has past and the day is dawning on the first day of the week. The Jews mark parts of the day so that people can know when the event took place and any Jew would know that with what was recorded in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John with the firt day of the week being the focus of the recorded time of the day is important to know so that the event can be established and we are dealing with the Jewish culture, not western culture. That is a big problem many people read the Bible and try to imterpret it witha western cultural mind set and it does not work.
More ad hominem reasoning, very time you lol it shows that you have no Scripture to rebutt what was posted. But that does not surprise me, it is typical of those that study the word of God to find what they think proves their doctrine, instead of searching the Scriptures to understand what they say.
So are you saying that all that Scripture you posted was not to show that the Jewish day starts at 6 P.M. and ends the next day at 6 P.M.?
Like fire on the Sabbath do you use electricity on the Sabbath in your home, electricity is fire or the base of fire and you should know that you cannot use fire on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:3 "You shall kindle no fire in all your dwelling places on the Sabbath day."
So God Bless you and yours and you still have not answered the question which tells me that you know the answer eliminates your Sabbath worship.
How does keeping the two great commandments, break the 10 commandments or the Sabbath since it is so important to you. How do people that do not worship on Saturday break the Sabbath by loving the Lord God with all their heart, all thier mind, all thier, sould and all thier strength and love their neighbors as themselves.
Please explain how anyone that keeps these two commandemnts are going to hell for not keeping the Sabbath or are you one of the advantist that do not believe in a place where the worm never dies and their fire in never quenched? Since you do not seem to have any Scripture in the testamony of the word of God in the suffering of Christ His, being condemned to death, crucified and placed in the Tomb to prove your belief, answer the question or teach me that the Lord may grant me repentance, so I can come to my senses and escape the snare of the devil. II Timothy 2:24-26 If you believe like beta that we that believe in a Sunday resurrection serve a false Christ, bring the word.
More ad hominem reasoning, very time you lol it shows that you have no Scripture to rebutt what was posted. But that does not surprise me, it is typical of those that study the word of God to find what they think proves their doctrine, instead of searching the Scriptures to understand what they say.
So are you saying that all that Scripture you posted was not to show that the Jewish day starts at 6 P.M. and ends the next day at 6 P.M.?
Like fire on the Sabbath do you use electricity on the Sabbath in your home, electricity is fire or the base of fire and you should know that you cannot use fire on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:3 "You shall kindle no fire in all your dwelling places on the Sabbath day."
So God Bless you and yours and you still have not answered the question which tells me that you know the answer eliminates your Sabbath worship.
How does keeping the two great commandments, break the 10 commandments or the Sabbath since it is so important to you. How do people that do not worship on Saturday break the Sabbath by loving the Lord God with all their heart, all thier mind, all thier, sould and all thier strength and love their neighbors as themselves.
Please explain how anyone that keeps these two commandemnts are going to hell for not keeping the Sabbath or are you one of the advantist that do not believe in a place where the worm never dies and their fire in never quenched? Since you do not seem to have any Scripture in the testamony of the word of God in the suffering of Christ His, being condemned to death, crucified and placed in the Tomb to prove your belief, answer the question or teach me that the Lord may grant me repentance, so I can come to my senses and escape the snare of the devil. II Timothy 2:24-26 If you believe like beta that we that believe in a Sunday resurrection serve a false Christ, bring the word.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I stated my case in the 1st 3 posts and since, your doctrine is not accurate to the Scriptural timeline because you ignore many pieces of Scriptural evidence, and you say or imply things I never said and act like it's evidence or reason to criticize. Then you say I’m using ad hominem attacks and reasoning. This is why I’m not spending effort to reply to you.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]By all 4 accounts He had already Resurrected before the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day/ Sunday
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 28:1-6, "”But late in the sabbath, as it was dawning into day one of the week, Miryam from Maḡdala and the other Miryam came to see the tomb. And see, there was a great earthquake, for a messenger of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]came down out of heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. And his appearance was like lightning, and his garments as white as snow. And the guards trembled for fear of him, and became like dead men. And the messenger responding, said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]who was impaled. He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Master lay.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He is not here, for He was raised”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:1-6, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who shall roll away the stone from the entrance of the tomb for us?” And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, for it was extremely large. And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here! See the place where they laid Him.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He was raised – He is not here”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 24:1-3, “But on day one of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. And having entered, they did not find the body of the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]they did not find the body of the Master [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the stone had been removed from the tomb”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 28:1-6, "”But late in the sabbath, as it was dawning into day one of the week, Miryam from Maḡdala and the other Miryam came to see the tomb. And see, there was a great earthquake, for a messenger of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]came down out of heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. And his appearance was like lightning, and his garments as white as snow. And the guards trembled for fear of him, and became like dead men. And the messenger responding, said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]who was impaled. He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Master lay.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He is not here, for He was raised”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:1-6, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who shall roll away the stone from the entrance of the tomb for us?” And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, for it was extremely large. And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here! See the place where they laid Him.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He was raised – He is not here”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 24:1-3, “But on day one of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. And having entered, they did not find the body of the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]they did not find the body of the Master [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the stone had been removed from the tomb”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“He is not here, for He was raised”
Psalms 16:10-11, "16:10, "For You do not leave my being in She’ol, Neither let Your Lovingly-committed One see corruption."16:11, "You show me the path of life; In Your presence is joy to satisfaction; At Your right hand are pleasures forever."[/FONT]
Psalms 16:10-11, "16:10, "For You do not leave my being in She’ol, Neither let Your Lovingly-committed One see corruption."16:11, "You show me the path of life; In Your presence is joy to satisfaction; At Your right hand are pleasures forever."[/FONT]
We are wasting our breath on those who believe a 'sunday resurrection'
they obviously cling to what they SEE and not to what is NOT seen ! did not Yashua say there is a 'difference' Joh 20v29; did not Paul say there is a difference Heb 11v1;
True Faith consists of what is Not seen....which in this case is Yahshua/Jesus' Sabbath resurrection totally confirmed by scripture including Mat 12v40; 1Cor 15v3,4;
People need to 'consider if this makes a difference or not because it shows openly which Christ they follow !!!
they obviously cling to what they SEE and not to what is NOT seen ! did not Yashua say there is a 'difference' Joh 20v29; did not Paul say there is a difference Heb 11v1;
True Faith consists of what is Not seen....which in this case is Yahshua/Jesus' Sabbath resurrection totally confirmed by scripture including Mat 12v40; 1Cor 15v3,4;
People need to 'consider if this makes a difference or not because it shows openly which Christ they follow !!!
The heart of the earth is not the same as the grave. It speaks of a living suffering .
In the literal grave where the worm does not die.... there is no work.
It began in the garden (Thursday) as if the pouring out of His spirit not seen was blood . Sweat is used to indicate the father and Son or working together to bring salvation
Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
God who is Spirit and not a man as us gave Spirit life in jeopardy of his own Spirit of holiness .No such thing as flesh of holiness.
Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
His temporal body did not see corruption .God's Spirit cannot die.When he left he gave a warning that even though some did known Him after the temporal flesh (the faithless ) we know hin m no more that way. But we continue to walk by faith (the unseen)
2Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
If we do try and make God into a man as us confusion sets in.
In the literal grave where the worm does not die.... there is no work.
It began in the garden (Thursday) as if the pouring out of His spirit not seen was blood . Sweat is used to indicate the father and Son or working together to bring salvation
Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
God who is Spirit and not a man as us gave Spirit life in jeopardy of his own Spirit of holiness .No such thing as flesh of holiness.
Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
His temporal body did not see corruption .God's Spirit cannot die.When he left he gave a warning that even though some did known Him after the temporal flesh (the faithless ) we know hin m no more that way. But we continue to walk by faith (the unseen)
2Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
If we do try and make God into a man as us confusion sets in.
Mat 12:39-40, “But He answering, said to them, “A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Yonah. For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
It is misunderstanding is that the 3 days being to be counted when he began to suffer (the garden of Gethsemane) but this is ignoring Scripture. It is clearly written the he must be killed then 3 days later resurrected, thus one can not count from the time he began to suffer, it goes against Scripture;
Matthew 16:21, “From that time יהושע began to show to His taught ones that it was necessary for Him to go to Yerushalayim, and to suffer much from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and to be raised again the third day.”
Mark 8:31, “And He began to teach them that the Son of Aḏam has to suffer much, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days to rise again.”
Luke 9:22, "saying, “The Son of Aḏam has to suffer much, and to be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and to be killed, and to be raised the third day.”
Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
It is misunderstanding is that the 3 days being to be counted when he began to suffer (the garden of Gethsemane) but this is ignoring Scripture. It is clearly written the he must be killed then 3 days later resurrected, thus one can not count from the time he began to suffer, it goes against Scripture;
Matthew 16:21, “From that time יהושע began to show to His taught ones that it was necessary for Him to go to Yerushalayim, and to suffer much from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and to be raised again the third day.”
Mark 8:31, “And He began to teach them that the Son of Aḏam has to suffer much, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days to rise again.”
Luke 9:22, "saying, “The Son of Aḏam has to suffer much, and to be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and to be killed, and to be raised the third day.”
Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
Mat 12v40 clearly speaks of Jesus being 'in the heart of the earth/tomb/rock for 3 days and 3 nights...not of any suffering....
having been entombed just before sunset He would also rise before sunset 72 hours later according to scripture...any longer than that would make resurrection AFTER sunset early sunday morning which is breaking scripture !
sunday resurrection is a lie and points to a FALSE jesus an imposter and impersonater !
having been entombed just before sunset He would also rise before sunset 72 hours later according to scripture...any longer than that would make resurrection AFTER sunset early sunday morning which is breaking scripture !
sunday resurrection is a lie and points to a FALSE jesus an imposter and impersonater !
yes, beta, and how hard it was for me to acknowledge my 'false-conversion',
actually, both of us, not to mention that my precious Husband was molested
by his sunday-schoold-teacher...
I thought it was a 'done deal', 'he didn't: no matter the wickedness or dis-honesty, lies,
that I committed in this evil world...how blessed do you think I feel, knowing that
we, hub and myself are of the few to be chosen?
this can only come by Faith, Loyalty, Obedience, the knowledge that The Holy Spirit puts into
one's heart and Spirits...
actually, both of us, not to mention that my precious Husband was molested
by his sunday-schoold-teacher...
I thought it was a 'done deal', 'he didn't: no matter the wickedness or dis-honesty, lies,
that I committed in this evil world...how blessed do you think I feel, knowing that
we, hub and myself are of the few to be chosen?
this can only come by Faith, Loyalty, Obedience, the knowledge that The Holy Spirit puts into
one's heart and Spirits...
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The three days and nights are not literal twenty four hour days. Part of a day is taken as a whole day and night. An example of this an be seen in our judicial system. If a person is convicted and sentenced in court at 11am for example the day of the conviction is treated as a whole day not a bit of one. The same applied to days and nights in first century Judea.
However judicial and Jewsish time reckoning are not YHWH's time reckoning. THe pharisees made their own way in that any part of a day was considered a day so they could "honor" Sabbath for a part of the day and have "fulfilled their duties"
The Encyclopedia Judaica, Day;
In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day. Again, a man who hears of a vow made by his wife or his daughter, and desires to cancel the vow, must do so on the same day on which he hears of it, as otherwise the protest has no effect; even if the hearing takes place a little time before night, the annulment must be done within that little time.
Jewish Encyclopedia, DAY (Hebrew, "yom");
In the Bible, the season of light (Gen. i. 5), lasting "from dawn [lit. "the rising of the morning"] to the coming forth of the stars" (Neh. iv. 15, 17). The term "day" is used also to denote a period of twenty-four hours (Ex. xxi. 21). In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day. Again, a man who hears of a vow made by his wife or his daughter, and desires to cancel the vow, must do so on the same day on which he hears of it, as otherwise the protest has no effect; even if the hearing takes place a little time before night, the annulment must be done within that little time. The day is reckoned from evening to evening—i.e., night and day—except in reference to sacrifices, where daytime and the night following constitute one day (Lev. vii. 15; see Calendar). "The day" denotes: (a) Day of the Lord; (b) the Day of Atonement; (c) the treatise of the Mishnah that contains the laws concerning the Day of Atonement (See Yoma and Sabbath).
This is not Scriptually correct:
John 11:9-10, " יהושע/Yahshua answered, “Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. But if anyone walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him.”
Berĕshith/Genesis 1:5, " And Yah called the light ‘day’ and the darkness He called ‘night.’ And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the first day."
Exodus 12:18, "In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, in the evening, you shall eat unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month in the evening."
Leviticus 23:32, "It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”
"evening" is word # H6153. ereb - Strong's Concordance: ereb: evening, Original Word: עָ֫רֶב, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: ereb, Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-reb), Short Definition: evening
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) evening, night, sunset, 1a) evening, sunset, 1b) night
The Encyclopedia Judaica, Day;
In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day. Again, a man who hears of a vow made by his wife or his daughter, and desires to cancel the vow, must do so on the same day on which he hears of it, as otherwise the protest has no effect; even if the hearing takes place a little time before night, the annulment must be done within that little time.
Jewish Encyclopedia, DAY (Hebrew, "yom");
In the Bible, the season of light (Gen. i. 5), lasting "from dawn [lit. "the rising of the morning"] to the coming forth of the stars" (Neh. iv. 15, 17). The term "day" is used also to denote a period of twenty-four hours (Ex. xxi. 21). In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day. Again, a man who hears of a vow made by his wife or his daughter, and desires to cancel the vow, must do so on the same day on which he hears of it, as otherwise the protest has no effect; even if the hearing takes place a little time before night, the annulment must be done within that little time. The day is reckoned from evening to evening—i.e., night and day—except in reference to sacrifices, where daytime and the night following constitute one day (Lev. vii. 15; see Calendar). "The day" denotes: (a) Day of the Lord; (b) the Day of Atonement; (c) the treatise of the Mishnah that contains the laws concerning the Day of Atonement (See Yoma and Sabbath).
This is not Scriptually correct:
John 11:9-10, " יהושע/Yahshua answered, “Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. But if anyone walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him.”
Berĕshith/Genesis 1:5, " And Yah called the light ‘day’ and the darkness He called ‘night.’ And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the first day."
Exodus 12:18, "In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, in the evening, you shall eat unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month in the evening."
Leviticus 23:32, "It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”
"evening" is word # H6153. ereb - Strong's Concordance: ereb: evening, Original Word: עָ֫רֶב, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: ereb, Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-reb), Short Definition: evening
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) evening, night, sunset, 1a) evening, sunset, 1b) night