Unconditional Love?
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Yes to all means there was no need to try to correct my first post with all your new age speak.
It looks like an ego trip, saying, "You are wrong! You are wrong!
I need to correct you... but I do agree with you."
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God's love has a particularly big condition -- perfect obedience. It is so important Jesus had to give it because we would not/could not.
If you followed previous posts....
It is obvious that some people cannot see the connection between truth and love. Is not being truthful the loving, and to be loving is to be truthful?
God is both Truth and Love. Truth is the only reality, whatever is not true (deception) is not real. True love is unconditional, so is Truth. If truth was conditional, then that means it needs certain conditions to be true, but it is already true and needs nothing (conditions) to make it so.
It is only those who are conditional that sees conditions. So if you and others cannot grasp this, it is because you are still viewing it conditionally. In that case, no matter what I say you won't get it.
No I am not presuming, since you said that unconditional love...
It is all relative. If you do not understand unconditional love then all you see is a big condition.
When loving Jesus Christ unconditionally, obedience is no longer a condition and/or chore, but absolute desire.
Living the life of the world is paradoxical to spiritual life. Everything is back-to-front in the world. That is why it is said that satan still rules the world, and those who live by the world are already lost, for it is based on personal ego deceptions (false-self).
The conformity of many members gathered around this thread confirm how a Christian is fed to the wolves.
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I'm trying to understand your motive in posting. You're not married, but you want to know what unconditional love is in a marriage relationship, is that correct? Or you DO think you know what it is but you want to run it by the members here first to verify it... or what? Am I understanding you right?
I pray for you Tommy, since all you seem to do is get on the band wagon of belittlement to feel better about yourself. May you stop for a long while and let Jesus's Spirit of Truth console you and bring awareness and peace to your heart.
Asking the question for others to consider it more carefully than before. As you can see already, that no one wants to seriously consider it, for they already know its deeper implications though they may be in denial about it.I'm trying to understand your motive in posting. You're not married, but you want to know what unconditional love is in a marriage relationship, is that correct? Or you DO think you know what it is but you want to run it by the members here first to verify it... or what? Am I understanding you right?
Unconditional love implies total acceptance of self (good and bad). From this, the realization occurs that we are totally responsible for ALL of our own thoughts and actions. Meaning, nobody to blame, not even to forgive, for its truth becomes plain to see and everything about the situation becomes clear and doubtless.
But we live in this world of deceptions. This realm is so thick (visible) it is so easy to get caught up in it. And when we do, life becomes full of conditions again. This worldly view is based on fear and deception, while the Greater Reality view, the spiritual perspective, is based on love and truth. It is the Christian purpose to live the way of truth, and those brothers and sisters that are not, though they may think otherwise, need to know the truth. It would be unethical of me to hold that back.
Yes, I know what I have posted.
I know that is how you see it.
Does Truth make sense? Not in terms of human language. That is why knowledge cannot grasp the Truth, only unconditional (unreserved) faith can gain a knowing which cannot be reasoned with or fully explained. Yet this knowing is doubtless and unconditional. Once known, it cannot be denied. Many Christians rather face death than to deny the Greater Reality of Truth. Jesus Christ showed that no matter what they did to him, He could never compromised the Truth.
Do you understand, Truth is subjective?
This means; me and you, will never have the same truth.
You are wasting your time.
yes, unfortunately 'God's Truth' is subjective in this fallen-world, this is why we
have to rely on Christ's Words and Truths alone and not our own interpretation of it,
The Holy Spirit is the Author and Finisher of our true Faith in our Saviour, and as we
prayerfully learn, not ourselves...
have to rely on Christ's Words and Truths alone and not our own interpretation of it,
The Holy Spirit is the Author and Finisher of our true Faith in our Saviour, and as we
prayerfully learn, not ourselves...
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Yes it does look like I am wasting your time (not mine).
Do you not see that we share many same truths, and they are universal. Those that do not appear to be the same, at least one is true and the rest is subjective. However, there are different degrees of truth, for example. An angry person expresses what most people would call anything from disappointment to rage; anger is somewhere in between. These are just expressions of a deeper truth.
Lets go deeper. What makes a person angry? Something is not going the way they want it to.
And deeper. Why get angry about that? They fear if it does not go their way they will lose self-esteem.
Lets go deeper. What is wrong with losing self-esteem? They fear being judged negatively for not coping with the unexpected/unprepared/unknown...
This goes deeper all the way back to God.
Is not the above example universal? If not, give me your 'subjective' truth about your anger, when you get angry.
True. Thank God the Father, and Jesus Christ the Son, for the Holy Spirit of Truth.
Those that pray and meditate on a daily basis to improve their conscious contact with God will be guided to do God's will and not their own. They will also be given the courage and power to carry out God's will. The Holy Spirit will give them discernment, direction, and words, or other forms of expression, to reveal God's Truth (God's will). Without the Holy Spirit, it is almost impossible to know what God's will is. It is the Holy Spirit which rejoices and loves the Truth, for that is where it originally came from. This Living Water of rejoice and love confirms to our mind what God's will is for us.
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Old adage:
If someone tells you, "You are a duck," ignore it.
If two people tell you, "you're a duck," think about it.
If three? Start quacking and head for the water.
You're going on a dozen people telling you that you are a duck. It ain't us. It's you!
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No. Really it isn't. Truth is truth for all people, or it isn't truth.
The problem this little one has is he thinks he is truth.
What you have described above is called conformity.
Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
Those that conform to the majority of this world, including false or fearful Christians, will follow the majority. These are on the broad way and go through the wide gate.
As you said, "It ain't us. It's you!"
Yes, I am the only one talking about truth and unconditional love. The rest are about to through me off the cliff, so to speak.