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and I still am not sure. But, we all have a spirit don't we? To my understanding, I would liken it to a well that's dry, but when Holy Spirit comes in, water of life flows into us.
So, to be completely annihilated from life, to me is what scripture calls the second death.
Just my thoughts.
The end of wickedness.
So, to be completely annihilated from life, to me is what scripture calls the second death.
Just my thoughts.
The end of wickedness.
Why do you bring her past up if God forgives her? Why not just forgive her too and give her a blank slate? His mercies begin anew each day and so should ours.
And why defend yourself by arguing that your post wasn't offensive but rather that she is spiritually immature? If you hurt your sisters feelings with smarting remarks, why do you care more to defend yourself as not being offensive than you care about your sister having been hurt?
What's wrong with examining whether we could have been any gentler in our speech or manner? Why don't we feel any sorrow if we hurt each others feelings? And what's wrong with saying we are sorry and could have been gentler and just leaving it at that?
What is so hard about loving and bearing with each other?
The more spiritually mature is the one who can bear offenses without the pride of hurt feelings AND the one who doesn't revile back.
All of this is fodder for prayer. All of our life is now seeing what we lack and then asking for what we need. We don't receive what we need to be more like our Lord because we don't ask and instead waste our time bickering!
And why defend yourself by arguing that your post wasn't offensive but rather that she is spiritually immature? If you hurt your sisters feelings with smarting remarks, why do you care more to defend yourself as not being offensive than you care about your sister having been hurt?
What's wrong with examining whether we could have been any gentler in our speech or manner? Why don't we feel any sorrow if we hurt each others feelings? And what's wrong with saying we are sorry and could have been gentler and just leaving it at that?
What is so hard about loving and bearing with each other?
The more spiritually mature is the one who can bear offenses without the pride of hurt feelings AND the one who doesn't revile back.
All of this is fodder for prayer. All of our life is now seeing what we lack and then asking for what we need. We don't receive what we need to be more like our Lord because we don't ask and instead waste our time bickering!
I'm trying to figure out first death, and you're up to second? Yeesh!
The GWT judgement would be the second death. As I said, just my thoughts. I might be wrong, but this makes sense to me. It's the judgement of works of sheep and goat nations.
I wrote the post to both of you in hopes of helping you both.
If we have hurt feelings, its because of wounded pride.
If our response to wounded pride is more pride, it never gets better, only worse.
When we SEE our pride, then we can ask for what we lack. If we CANT SEE where we are lacking, our prayer is not as effectual, for the good of ourself and our sister, because we don't receive because we don't ask.
If we ask, He gives what we need and the ridiculous patterns change because we change.
You have not heard what I said and think I'm speaking unuseful nonsense. I have great hope that Lynn will see it as useful.
If we have hurt feelings, its because of wounded pride.
If our response to wounded pride is more pride, it never gets better, only worse.
When we SEE our pride, then we can ask for what we lack. If we CANT SEE where we are lacking, our prayer is not as effectual, for the good of ourself and our sister, because we don't receive because we don't ask.
If we ask, He gives what we need and the ridiculous patterns change because we change.
You have not heard what I said and think I'm speaking unuseful nonsense. I have great hope that Lynn will see it as useful.
I wrote the post to both of you in hopes of helping you both.
If we have hurt feelings, its because of wounded pride.
If our response to wounded pride is more pride, it never gets better, only worse.
When we SEE our pride, then we can ask for what we lack. If we CANT SEE where we are lacking, our prayer is not as effectual, for the good of ourself and our sister, because we don't receive because we don't ask.
If we ask, He gives what we need and the ridiculous patterns change because we change.
You have not heard what I said and think I'm speaking unuseful nonsense. I have great hope that Lynn will see it as useful.
If we have hurt feelings, its because of wounded pride.
If our response to wounded pride is more pride, it never gets better, only worse.
When we SEE our pride, then we can ask for what we lack. If we CANT SEE where we are lacking, our prayer is not as effectual, for the good of ourself and our sister, because we don't receive because we don't ask.
If we ask, He gives what we need and the ridiculous patterns change because we change.
You have not heard what I said and think I'm speaking unuseful nonsense. I have great hope that Lynn will see it as useful.
Originally Posted by Stunnedbygrace
And why defend yourself by arguing that your post wasn't offensive but rather that she is spiritually immature? If you hurt your sisters feelings with smarting remarks, why do you care more to defend yourself as not being offensive than you care about your sister having been hurt?
What's wrong with examining whether we could have been any gentler in our speech or manner? Why don't we feel any sorrow if we hurt each others feelings? And what's wrong with saying we are sorry and could have been gentler and just leaving it at that?
What is so hard about loving and bearing with each other?
The more spiritually mature is the one who can bear offenses without the pride of hurt feelings AND the one who doesn't revile back.
All of this is fodder for prayer. All of our life is now seeing what we lack and then asking for what we need. We don't receive what we need to be more like our Lord because we don't ask and instead waste our time bickering!
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15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love
the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes,
and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passes away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God
abides for ever.
1John 2:
But whoso hath this world's good, and sees his brother have need, and shuts up his
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the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes,
and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passes away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God
abides for ever.
1John 2:
But whoso hath this world's good, and sees his brother have need, and shuts up his
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Me responding the way I did had nothing to do with pride and I hear what you are saying....my point was simple....the very same people who dish it out regularly will judge motive, say there is no love etc. when one gives it back...I meant NOTHING offensive by saying depleted uranium....and it is not like I called her an offensive name or something...and she judged my motive, said I had no love etc.....it is ridiculous how some will be so offended at something so simple while regularly dishing out heat to those they disagree with...it is beyond ridiculous as a matter of fact......just saying...and regardless of who disagrees, gets mad or upset....being easily offended is a sign of immaturity....and if we being believers cannot handle a little heat from each other...what happens when it gets really rough for ALL believers as we are mocked, ostracized, beaten, imprisoned and or killed for the cause of Christ which is coming soon on a planet near ALL of us........show me where she was included in your post....
Originally Posted by Stunnedbygrace
Why do you bring her past up if God forgives her? Why not just forgive her too and give her a blank slate? His mercies begin anew each day and so should ours.
And why defend yourself by arguing that your post wasn't offensive but rather that she is spiritually immature? If you hurt your sisters feelings with smarting remarks, why do you care more to defend yourself as not being offensive than you care about your sister having been hurt?
What's wrong with examining whether we could have been any gentler in our speech or manner? Why don't we feel any sorrow if we hurt each others feelings? And what's wrong with saying we are sorry and could have been gentler and just leaving it at that?
What is so hard about loving and bearing with each other?
The more spiritually mature is the one who can bear offenses without the pride of hurt feelings AND the one who doesn't revile back.
All of this is fodder for prayer. All of our life is now seeing what we lack and then asking for what we need. We don't receive what we need to be more like our Lord because we don't ask and instead waste our time bickering!
Originally Posted by Stunnedbygrace
And why defend yourself by arguing that your post wasn't offensive but rather that she is spiritually immature? If you hurt your sisters feelings with smarting remarks, why do you care more to defend yourself as not being offensive than you care about your sister having been hurt?
What's wrong with examining whether we could have been any gentler in our speech or manner? Why don't we feel any sorrow if we hurt each others feelings? And what's wrong with saying we are sorry and could have been gentler and just leaving it at that?
What is so hard about loving and bearing with each other?
The more spiritually mature is the one who can bear offenses without the pride of hurt feelings AND the one who doesn't revile back.
All of this is fodder for prayer. All of our life is now seeing what we lack and then asking for what we need. We don't receive what we need to be more like our Lord because we don't ask and instead waste our time bickering!
Not going to argue. You can't be expected to see what you can't see.
You want to know what spiritually dead is?
Below is a good example of this
Joel Osteen nett worth $40,000,000
Joel Scott Osteen has an estimated net worth of $40 million. Osteen is an
American preacher, televangelist, author, and the leader of Lakewood Church
in Houston, Texas.
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Below is a good example of this
Joel Osteen nett worth $40,000,000
Joel Scott Osteen has an estimated net worth of $40 million. Osteen is an
American preacher, televangelist, author, and the leader of Lakewood Church
in Houston, Texas.
