mark of the beast

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Ahwatukee

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The mark of the beast (666) is as defined by the scriptures....it still is the number of natural unconverted man (seen ).
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"for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666"

No garee, it is not the number of natural unconverted man. "man" the word is in the singular.The verse specifies an individual "a man" not men. The beast is an entity, individual, person and it is his mark that is spoken of.

Abel is not apart of the church, for it was not established until Christ appeared in the flesh. For while He was here He said, "I will build my church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. The words "I will build" are in the future tense.

You really need to study this information before speaking on it.
 
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Muzungu256 said:
hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
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I don't envision any kind of RFID technology, or any other literal electronic device, linked to every individual on the earth.

In Ezekiel 9 those who received the Mark from the Secretary's Ink horn did not receive a visible mark that could be seen by men.

As was mentioned by others, thought and deed signify the identification- we identify ourselves as to whether or not we have more faith in God or in the beast.
 
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Muzungu256 said:
hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
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It sure wont be Sunday worship, at least in the US as church attendance has been in decline for years. Since you won't be able to buy or sell unless you have the mark of the beast it must be some type of physical device that is easily inserted but cannot be removed.
 
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The mark of the beast is to be deceived into believing the second beast is Jesus.
Which is really Satan himself . Rapture is setting Christians up for that apostasy ..


 
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Thing is, an area of concern is people are willingly choosing to become volunteers to be implanted with such a device. What is even more incredible is that a number of people think it is so cool to have such a device. sorry to say this, but in my opinion, this attitude is more towards this generation of snowflakes we have today, but there are also those in the pre-snowflake generation that will be wanting this as well.

For the moment, let us work on the idea that some kind of sophisticated implantable device that is used as a means of identifying people, enabling people to conduct business transactions, the same device bonds itself to a person, and such a device is used as a means of controlling people. Can such devices release nanobots inside a person that then travel to a person's brain to reprogram them? Have a read on mind controlled nanobots.

At this moment in time, there is no way of knowing for certain if "The Mark of The Beast" is going to be part of some kind of Mandatory Vaccination Programmed of some kind, but considering what can be put inside vaccines (nanotech, recombinant dna), and the evidence we see today of risk of fines or jail for parents who refuse to vaccinate their children, one question has to be asked. Why? There is also evidence that if children are not vaccinated, they cannot even go into those child care centers to play with other children.

With the advancements in computer technology there is today, every person can easily be tracked with a implantable electronic object. If people can be tracked with smart phones, same can be said for people.

Now let us look at the logic involved for people to be convinced to accept the mark of the beast. The many people need to be conditioned first. Now those who have been conditioned to already accept the mark of the beast, there is no need to further convince such people to accept. With what is happening today, there are many people today that will simply can't wait to get it.

Through some research I have done, there have been some pastors (I don't know how many) telling people it is okay to accept the mark. And how many people today are going to believe what their pastors say?

One thing I know, technology has been the cause of many lives of people ruined. People cannot get jobs because of technology, people no longer think for themselves because of technology. Reality is, people are becoming prisoners of technology. What happens if a person of this snowflake generation has a incident that their smart phone is not working, cannot access facebook or twitter, for a good number of these people, in my opinion are just going to panic.

We have to be very careful today. When people are being fully conditioned on how to think, and what to say, then it is reasonable to assume such people will be also told who to worship. Think about it.
 
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Muzungu256 said:
hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
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Attitude of the heart and the mind
 
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OtherWay210 said:
The mark of the beast is to be deceived into believing the second beast is Jesus.
Which is really Satan himself . Rapture is setting Christians up for that apostasy ..
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At the expense of others?
the false prophet and the false christ will be made manifest by their works which will be quite contrary to The SPIRIT of GOD
 
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ezekiel 9:3-4 " And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; 4And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof"

v9-11 "Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not. 10And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.11And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me."


revelation 7:2-4 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was givento hurt the earthand the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."

revelation14:1 "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads."

revelation 13:16-17 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. "


everything God does, satan Makes a counterfit, God marks His name on His people, satan does the same in thier foreheads or minds. just a thought to add
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What an awesome post

it it is very important to note who Ezekiel is told to mark and their attitude towards all the terror and unrighteousness which will come in those days

these are men whose hearts are appalled by the monstrosity of the things that are happening
 
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miknik5 said:
What an awesome post

it it is very important to note who Ezekiel is told to mark and their attitude towards all the terror and unrighteousness which will come in those days

these are men whose hearts are appalled by the monstrosity of the things that are happening
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also remember Daniel’s prophecy of the “violent men of the covenant” who do not know their god
 
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And by what men do during this time, they will be made manifest if they were led by GOD’s SPIRIT

Or not
 
Ahwatukee

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miknik5 said:
Attitude of the heart and the mind
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Good day miknik5!

The teaching that the right hand represents "taking action" and the forehead represents "making a decision" is a Seventh Day Adventist teaching, so that the mark of the beast becomes non-literal, which is false.

Scripture clearly teaches that without this mark no one will be able to buy or sell.

The mark is a device that will go in/on the literal hand or forehead and will eventually replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps and whatever else is being used for electronic crediting and debiting.

The fact that this technology is already being used in the literal sense, should dispense with the idea of it being figurative. This is the reason why we have this technology of electronic crediting in debiting. It is paving the way for that eventual mark, which will replace all other methods of electronic crediting and debiting causing people to either receive it or reject it.

For those who would disagree, we already have companies who are offering chip implants under the skin of the hands for their employees, with one of its purposes being to make purchases (buying). The links below demonstrate this technology:

Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Company to install microchips in employees

I'm sure that as time goes on, this RFID chip will evolve into something more applicable, but what will remain consistent will be that it will go in/on the hand or the forehead.
 
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birdie said:
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

Buying and selling is Bible lingo for the sending forth of the gospel: "Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and withoutprice." When someone receives the gospel they are bought by what the Lord paid on the cross. When they are unsaved they have been sold into the slavery of sin: "Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright."

Rev 13 is talking about a time when the congregations of the church age are overrun by the spirit of error, when those in the congregations are not allowed to preach without having been marked by the wrong spirit. The true believers who have the true gospel are all rejected in that arena. Just as 'buying and selling' is Bible lingo (parable language) for something different than literal buying and selling in a store, so the idea of a mark is not meaning a literal mark. True believers are said to have been sealed in their foreheads, meaning that they have been given the mind of Christ, his spirit, not a physical literal mark on the forehead. Similarly, those in the false congregations have the spirit of their master, not a literal physical mark.
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Hello birdie,

The problem with your theory is that we already have companies offering their employees implants under the skin of the hand, with one of its purposes being to make purchases. So we already have a literal fulfillment of this prophecy which will evolve into what will become the mark of the beast.

The context of any given scripture should be considered first. What you have done above is just misapplied scripture that have nothing to do with each other.

We already have companies in Sweden and her sister countries, who are offering this technology to their employees. And now it has taken off her in the US. Pretty soon, instead of card swiping or cell phone bank apps, you will begin to see people making purchasees with the scan of their hands. Eventually the device will also go in the forehead, for what reason scripture does not elaborate. It may be placed there for those who have no upper limbs or it may be received there as a greater show of worship. The fact is that the technology for a literal fulfillment is already being used.
 
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Ahwatukee said:
Good day miknik5!

The teaching that the right hand represents "taking action" and the forehead represents "making a decision" is a Seventh Day Adventist teaching, so that the mark of the beast becomes non-literal, which is false.

Scripture clearly teaches that without this mark no one will be able to buy or sell.

The mark is a device that will go in/on the literal hand or forehead and will eventually replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps and whatever else is being used for electronic crediting and debiting.

The fact that this technology is already being used in the literal sense, should dispense with the idea of it being figurative. This is the reason why we have this technology of electronic crediting in debiting. It is paving the way for that eventual mark, which will replace all other methods of electronic crediting and debiting causing people to either receive it or reject it.

For those who would disagree, we already have companies who are offering chip implants under the skin of the hands for their employees, with one of its purposes being to make purchases (buying). The links below demonstrate this technology:

Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Company to install microchips in employees

I'm sure that as time goes on, this RFID chip will evolve into something more applicable, but what will remain consistent will be that it will go in/on the hand or the forehead.
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and John knew all this? Codswallop.
 
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Ezekiel 9 the mark is for those that mourn the abomination in the Temple, Revelation the mark is for those that worship the abomination in the Temple.
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"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name."

Hello Johnny_B,

The mark will not be restricted to Israel and her temple, but as the scripture above states, the false prophet will cause all people to receive it and that because it will eventually be the only way to electronically credit and debit ones bank account.
 
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mailmandan said:
An interesting theory is that the mark of the beast will be a computer chip, surgically implanted under the skin, by a totalitarian government wishing to exercise total control over its citizens. "Right hand or forehead." Certain people may have been injured and lost their right hand or even their whole arm, so in that case, the mark would have to go in their forehead.

I could see the mark being something that is scanned (just as products in a store are scanned when you purchase them).

Cyborgs at work: employees getting implanted with microchips - https://www.yahoo.com/tech/cyborgs-employees-getting-implanted-microchips-125759240.html
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Hello MailManDan,

Have you seen the following:

Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Company to install microchips in employees
 
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Hello Nessuno,

I don't envision any kind of RFID technology, or any other literal electronic device, linked to every individual on the earth
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The above is irrelevant, since we already have the technology, which is already being used, where companies are offering to implant their employees with RFID chips, one of the purposes being to make purchases. That fact that even exists is a testimony to the truth and accuracy of God's word.

In Ezekiel 9 those who received the Mark from the Secretary's Ink horn did not receive a visible mark that could be seen by men.
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Those men marked in Ezekiel has nothing to do with the mark of the beast. In addition, they did not have the technology that we do today to be able to literally implant an individual. Soon you will be seeing people begin to make purchases by their hands being scanned.
 
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