The King James Bible

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Hi there, i came to understand through some youtube videos about the Kjv since then praise God i believe it is the true word of God, the only translation that is true to the source, many other translations has some really poisonous and deadly messages in them

What poison? I have about four other translations which tell me , The Lord God created mankind, Jesus Christ died to save us from sin and he will return to rule the earth. Have you read all the other translations?

 

[Dino246]

Hi there, i came to understand through some youtube videos about the Kjv since then praise God i believe it is the true word of God, the only translation that is true to the source, many other translations has some really poisonous and deadly messages in them

Hello and welcome, Talitha...
There are indeed many videos on YouTube that promote the KJV over against other translations. Such videos are also typically replete with incomplete, erroneous, and misleading information as well as logical fallacies. While I encourage you to continue reading the KJV if that is the Bible in your hands, I also encourage you not to make a final determination on the matter of "KJV only" until you have looked at both sides of the matter and given each a fair hearing.

Proverbs 18:17 says, "The first to plead his case seems right, until another comes and examines him."

 

[Nehemiah6]

Hi there, i came to understand through some youtube videos about the Kjv since then praise God i believe it is the true word of God, the only translation that is true to the source, many other translations has some really poisonous and deadly messages in them

One of those poisonous messages is that the pure text is corrupt and the corrupt text is pure, therefore for over 1900 years Christians did not have a true Bible.

 

[Talitha]

Thanks for the welcome!..sorry in advance my native language in not English it's a bit messy .. but as to Lucy's question.. i have read the NIV and NKJB and ESV , and came to know that the same printing company who print the satanic bible prints the NIV. they also implant intentionally interpretations with a different gospel in it. it is a very long list of many wrong sections, where it shows salvation by Jesus christ they dropped that partand another example for wrong interpretation is in Daniel 3:25 NIV says [FONT=&quot]He said, “Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.”
[/FONT]while the correct verse is in
kjv 25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
2 completely different agenda , don't you think?
let's look at another one :1 corinthians 15:47
Good News Translation
The first Adam, made of earth, came from the earth; the second Adam came from heaven.
New International Version
The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven.
King James Bible
The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
can you agree there are 3 different gospels here?
i think it all depends if you look at the bible just a science fiction book or as a well of water for the dying of thirst soul, and i find it astonishing to find much antagonism when the kjv is being mentioned, i thought this is a pro KJV chat..so sorry for charging in like that but i can give you some references for more twisted verses.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Thanks for the welcome!..sorry in advance my native language in not English it's a bit messy .. but as to Lucy's question.. i have read the NIV and NKJB and ESV , and came to know that the same printing company who print the satanic bible prints the NIV. they also implant intentionally interpretations with a different gospel in it. it is a very long list of many wrong sections, where it shows salvation by Jesus christ they dropped that partand another example for wrong interpretation is in Daniel 3:25 NIV says He said, “Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.”
while the correct verse is in
kjv 25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
2 completely different agenda , don't you think?
let's look at another one :1 corinthians 15:47
Good News Translation
The first Adam, made of earth, came from the earth; the second Adam came from heaven.
New International Version
The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven.
King James Bible
The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
can you agree there are 3 different gospels here?
i think it all depends if you look at the bible just a science fiction book or as a well of water for the dying of thirst soul, and i find it astonishing to find much antagonism when the kjv is being mentioned, i thought this is a pro KJV chat..so sorry for charging in like that but i can give you some references for more twisted verses.

You can cut and paste someone else's arguments all you like but if you are going to call other translations Satanic understand you are attacking the work of The Holy Spirit. Are there not better things for Christians to do? Celebrate the KJV if you like but there is no need to do it by attacking and slandering the Word of The Lord.

 

[Talitha]

i didn't say it is satanic. where did you get that from

 

[Talitha]

and i didnt cut and paste someones else argument, it seems you are looking for a fight so i will kindly dismiss myself

 

[Oncefallen]

The KJV written in English was not what God gave to Moses, or Paul, or Peter

Only an imbecile would promote such nonsense.

For those bashing Nehemiah6 for his response to Chester, stop and reread his post when your hackles aren't already up.

He is saying that only an imbecile would claim that the KJV in English was the text God gave, not calling Chester an imbecile. He was agreeing, not name calling.

 

[preacher4truth]

Your mockery of King James is a good indication of how low Christians can go with their insults and forget how offensive they are to God. You are forgetting the Scripture which says to give honor where honor is due.

Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. (Rom 13:7).

God used King James for His own glory, but you cannot see that. Obviously, you have no clue about his understanding of Scripture or what he tried to accomplish at that time. And it is officially "The Authorized Version" or simply "The Holy Bible".

Not once have I mocked the KJV. I will however mock KJVOnly-ism.

 

[pckts]

Modern translations attempt to "improve" translations with faulty scientific and historic interpretations.

An example, The ancient Israelite were what we know as black

Lamentations 5:10
New International Version
Our skin is hot as an oven, feverish from hunger.

English Standard Version
Our skin is hot as an oven with the burning heat of famine.

New American Standard Bible
Our skin has become as hot as an oven, Because of the burning heat of famine.

King James Bible
Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.



Black skins gets blacker when starved, white skin gets whiter.

The modern translators assume the jews were white, so they have changed the translation to fit this and "improve" upon the greek and king james translation.


There is much more human error with modern translations, because the modern mind is deceived or corrupt and intentionally or unintentionally inserts falsehoods and errors.


Certain translations stick to the source material without interjecting opinions or outside "facts", I think the New living Translation is pretty good, but I do believe there are a number of errors with modern translations. Not to say KJV is free of all errors, but it's free of the ones caused by a flawed, deceived, or evil modern mind.

 

[Dino246]

... another example for wrong interpretation is in Daniel 3:25

NIV says He said, “Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.”

while the correct verse is in kjv

25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

2 completely different agenda , don't you think?

This verse is often presented as evidence that modern translations are corrupting the Bible. There is a straightforward explanation though, one in which no agenda is evident: Nebuchadnezzar was a pagan; he did not believe in the one true God (until Daniel chapter 4, that is). It would therefore be quite natural for him to say "a son of the gods" which is consistent with his worldview. It is actually inconsistent for him to say, "of God" when he didn't believe in God! So the KJV cannot be held up as correct in this matter.

This is somewhat like an anachronism, only instead of imposing a modern understanding into a historical event, you're imposing a Christian (Jewish) understanding of God upon a pagan. I submit that it is far better to have a Bible that records accurately what was said rather than one that reinterprets people's words to conform to an ideal.

If you assume that every difference between recent translations and the KJV is the result of a modern conspiracy or desire to "change the Bible", or assume that in every case the KJV is correct, you will be blinded to the reality of the issues. The KJV simply is not the standard of accuracy in translation. The standard is the original-language manuscripts, against which both KJV and modern translations must be compared. Some read such statements as attacks on the KJV; they simply aren't, and hopefully you won't.

 

[fredoheaven]

And truth is contained in the word of God, just not one antiquated bible. The others are just as viable.

Umm... if you could only present your newest/updated English Bible version out there then perhaps we can consider the case of a weak argument of antiquity.

Thanks and God bless

 

[Speak2Me]

Not once have I mocked the KJV. I will however mock KJVOnly-ism.

Lemme get this straight............. It's wrong to mock anything considered holy, but it's alright to mock anything or anybody that's not holy?

Seems like a double standard to me.

 

[fredoheaven]

No, it was based on JW doctrine with the Greek text "added" to support the doctrine - !!!!!

Hi Sir,

I beleive this must be on the reverse, ommited verses in the JW is identical with the Newer Versions and the additions made were to support JW's doctrine.

Thanks,

 

[Speak2Me]

Modern translations attempt to "improve" translations with faulty scientific and historic interpretations.

An example, The ancient Israelite were what we know as black

Lamentations 5:10
New International Version
Our skin is hot as an oven, feverish from hunger.

English Standard Version
Our skin is hot as an oven with the burning heat of famine.

New American Standard Bible
Our skin has become as hot as an oven, Because of the burning heat of famine.

King James Bible
Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.



Black skins gets blacker when starved, white skin gets whiter.

The modern translators assume the jews were white, so they have changed the translation to fit this and "improve" upon the greek and king james translation.


There is much more human error with modern translations, because the modern mind is deceived or corrupt and intentionally or unintentionally inserts falsehoods and errors.


Certain translations stick to the source material without interjecting opinions or outside "facts", I think the New living Translation is pretty good, but I do believe there are a number of errors with modern translations. Not to say KJV is free of all errors, but it's free of the ones caused by a flawed, deceived, or evil modern mind.

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I. [כָּמַר] verb Niph`al grow warm and tender, be or grow hot (Late Hebrew id. Pi`el heat fruit in the ground, making it ripe, over-ripe, tender; Aramaic כְּמַר id., and more Generally make warm (one's flesh, or food); compare kemr, fermentation, etc., in modern Syria Wetzst[SUP]ZPV xiv (1891), 6[/SUP]) —Niph`al Perfect3plural נִכְמְרוּ Genesis 43:30 2t., נִכְמָ֑רוּ Lamentations 5:10; —
1 grow warm and tender, figurative, subject רחמים; ׳רַחֲמָיו אֶלאָֿחִיונ Genesis 43:30 (J), so רַחֲמֶיהָ עַלבְּֿנָהּ ׳נ1 Kings 3:26; (רַחֲמָ֑י We) נִחוּמָ֑י ׳יַחַד נ Hosea 11:8 ("" עָלַי לִבִּינֶהְמַּךְ).

2 be or grow hot, ׳עוֺרֵנוּ כְתַנּוּר נ׳מִמְּנֵי וגו Lamentations 5:10 our skin has become hot like a furnace, because of the famine.
II. כמר (? √ of following; compare Syriac

black, dark, usually gloomy, sad;

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be sad).

What the KJV should have meant was their skin was hot because of famine.

People starving to death would be hot from dehydration & the body burning off its muscle & vital organs.

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[Deade]

Hey pckts, stop that! Jews accepted blacks but they weren't black: The modern translators assume the jews were white, so they have changed the translation to fit this and "improve" upon the greek and king james translation.

In fact, they called black people "sons of Ham" or "sons of Cush" - I've got Jewish blood in me and I am blond with blue eyes.

 

[Speak2Me]

Not to say KJV is free of all errors, but it's free of the ones caused by a flawed, deceived, or evil modern mind.

This is incorrect, for the meaning of elder is a ministering servant, while the KJV uses bishop, which is an office of authority.

Everywhere bishop is used in the KJV, it's a deception planted by the Archbishop of Canterbury, who did so to establish authority in the church of England.

The KJV was basically a remake of The Bishop's Bible, which was also overseen by the Archbishop, but the people wouldn't use it.

 

[pckts]

Hey pckts, stop that! Jews accepted blacks but they weren't black: The modern translators assume the jews were white, so they have changed the translation to fit this and "improve" upon the greek and king james translation.

In fact, they called black people "sons of Ham" or "sons of Cush" - I've got Jewish blood in me and I am blond with blue eyes.

You have false khazar jewish blood in you. The nation of Khazaria essentially made judaism the official religion in the 9th or 10th century, and it's from these converts your genealogy test makes you think you have jewish blood.

Pretty much anyone who gets a genealogy test will have Jewish blood because of all these imposter converts claiming blood or birthright to Israel. Your blood is tested against converts, and it matches theirs.

I'll post my black Egyptian-Jew evidence later.

 

[pckts]

Everywhere bishop is used in the KJV, it's a deception planted by the Archbishop of Canterbury, who did so to establish authority in the church of England.

I said "modern mind", that was written hundreds of years ago. And it has the evil of those times in them too, but nothing like we have today.

 

[pckts]

I'm copy pasting some of this material from times I told people on this website about it:

Lamentations 5:10
King James Bible
Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.

This verse is from a time when the Jews were going through a terrible famine. White skin gets whiter when starved, black gets blacker. So this clearly implies they were black.


The Bible also describes the Jews and Egyptians as near identical in appearance in scripture, and the ancient Egyptians were black.

There are times when all the jews need to do to blend in to the egyptian society is to disguise their accents and pretend to be so:

Genesis 42:7-8New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Joseph recognized his brothers instantly, but he pretended to be a stranger and spoke harshly to them. “Where are you from?” he demanded.
“From the land of Canaan,” they replied. “We have come to buy food.”
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Although Joseph recognized his brothers, they didn’t recognize him.



So in this verse by disguising his accent and pretending to be egyptian, Joseph passed off as an egpytian and tricked his fellow jews into believing so.





Paul the apostle was mistaken as an Egyptian by roman gaurds:
Acts 21:37-39New Living Translation (NLT)

Paul Speaks to the Crowd

[SUP]37 [/SUP]As Paul was about to be taken inside, he said to the commander, “May I have a word with you?”
“Do you know Greek?” the commander asked, surprised. [SUP]38 [/SUP]“Aren’t you the Egyptian who led a rebellion some time ago and took 4,000 members of the Assassins out into the desert?”

[SUP]39 [/SUP]“No,” Paul replied, “I am a Jew and a citizen of Tarsus in Cilicia, which is an important city. Please, let me talk to these people.”







Moses grew up as an egyptian prince! And his appearance being different is NEVER referenced. He blended right into the society.



So the jews and egyptians are identical in appearance according to The Bible, let's see what the egyptians look like based on their artifacts:




Here is egyptian artwork from this period:

This a statue of King tut:

This is an statue of King Tut's grandmother


View attachment 177745


Clearly a statue with dreadlocks and black skin/features:

More of the beautiful people with dreads:

Egyptian mummys:

Here is an ancient description of Christ's apperance:



Josephus, a 1 century person, described him in his book Halosis:"…a man of simple appearance, mature age, dark skin, small stature, three cubits high, hunchbacked, with a long face, long nose, and meeting eyebrows, so that they who see him might be affrighted, with scanty hair (but) having a line in the middle of the head after the fashion of the Nazireans, and with an undeveloped beard."

4 1/2 feet tall, hunchbacked, and probably not "handsome".

Here is a coin that is said to have his image on it:

This 3 cubit stature possibly is referenced in Luke 19:3:

King James Bible
And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature.

New Living Translation
He tried to get a look at Jesus, but he was too short to see over the crowd.




So who are the white jews then?



Those claiming to be from israel today, are from a nation that was called "Khazaria" and they converted to Judaism around the 9th or 10th century. They have no birth right to Israel, any blood, and the covenant was not to them.

It became the "national religion" of Khazaria. Then at some point the nation fell and the jews were scattered to the neighboring countries, but they did not assimilate and held onto what is essentially their nationalism, through the religion.

Benjamin Freedman gave a speech on this topic in 1961 if you are interested:
[video=youtube;x8OmxI2AYV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8[/video]

Here are some verses about curses upon the children of Israel:

Deuteronomy 32:26
I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

◄ Deuteronomy 28:46 ►

King James Bible
And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.


◄ Deuteronomy 28:16 ►
King James Bible
Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.

King James Bible
The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

It says the remembrance of them will cease from among men, which isn't true of the white jews of today they have their culture, israel, and the respect of the deceived as "chosen ones". If the jews were black however, the remembrance of them as jews has been forgotten by everyone, including blacks themselves.

The jews were also to be cursed in all they do, yet we know the white jews of today own the banks, entertainment, politics, and seem to be doing fine. These curses were supposed to last "for ever".


So their is the historical evidence the modern people known as jews (the Ashkenaz) converted to the religion, and these curses do not seem to apply to them, while they apply to the "black jews" that we have ceased to remember.



You also have the scripture speaking of the imposter jews, though written before these khazar converts, it applies to them:
Revelation 2:9

[SUP]9 [/SUP]I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


So the zionist jews converted to the religion and have 0 blood relation to the actual "chosen" ancient Israelites. They are imposters who pretend to be jews, yet worship the devil and/or deny Christ. The actual decendants of the jews have been forgotten in history, possibly including American slaves and those who suffer in poverty, violence, and racism in this country and around the world today.